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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:42 am
by Zyla
I've got to head out for a bit though, so I'll make more in depth posts when I can

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:59 am
by marcistar
In post 723, Pavowski wrote:I'm a little more sus of Marci than I was for taking what look like "easy" votes,
whats ur definition of easy votes wth

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:27 am
by alstroemerial
In post 722, Pavowski wrote: Interesting thing here is they vote Val in 293 but make it clear they don't want to wagon/lim the slot. Shortly after, they plant on Portia/Shrek and stay there.
Yeah, my thinking in 293 was roughly a sort of "throw my hands up in the air cause I don't really want to vote Pav anymore but want to vote somewhere", and putting a recorded stake in the Val v Luke thing felt like it could be productive. But by 319 I was really picking up the PR softs from Val which is why I started claiming it was TvT even harder and moved to Portia/Shrek.

Also, I agree with Pav that Marci's votes could be read as "easy", though I'll let Pav answer the question Marci asked.

If NM flipped town it could be worth taking a look at Umlaut -- lots of "middle wagon votes" and fits the mold of trying to get an easy NM miselim out of the way early D1 (I think the justification was on principle). For clarification on Middle wagon votes, I have the following: vote on NM brought him to E-2, on Zyla to E-3, on Shrek to E-2, and then again to E-1.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:27 am
by alstroemerial
I will say, I forget which of Val or Luke or both said it, but it was correct that having one of them out made the game a lot quieter

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:18 am
by Pavowski
In post 726, marcistar wrote:
In post 723, Pavowski wrote:I'm a little more sus of Marci than I was for taking what look like "easy" votes,
whats ur definition of easy votes wth
Not a hard-and-fast term, but given that the prospect of a NM elimination was pretty much "meh" on d1 and Zyla was never really in serious danger of getting eliminated -- especially when you voted her -- I would consider those easy votes

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:02 pm
by Pavowski
In post 724, Zyla wrote:Marci is Null still, but townier than yesterday
Why is Marci townier today?

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:59 pm
by Zyla
In post 729, Pavowski wrote:Not a hard-and-fast term, but given that the prospect of a NM elimination was pretty much "meh" on d1 and Zyla was never really in serious danger of getting eliminated -- especially when you voted her -- I would consider those easy votes
So easy as in easy to throw around more than easy as in LHF?
In post 730, Pavowski wrote:
In post 724, Zyla wrote:Marci is Null still, but townier than yesterday
Why is Marci townier today?
Less
today
really, and more just since I last posted my reads list, bad wording on my part. Her posts after that point were looking townier to me than the ones before it, so she's just not one of my major suspects atm

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:07 pm
by Pavowski
I'd say it's "easier" to vote somebody to e-3 than to e-1 for example, yeah.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:13 pm
by marcistar
In post 729, Pavowski wrote:
In post 726, marcistar wrote:
In post 723, Pavowski wrote:I'm a little more sus of Marci than I was for taking what look like "easy" votes,
whats ur definition of easy votes wth
Not a hard-and-fast term, but given that the prospect of a NM elimination was pretty much "meh" on d1 and Zyla was never really in serious danger of getting eliminated -- especially when you voted her -- I would consider those easy votes
i agree, my not_mafia was totally just an easy vote. i dont remember if i said around the timebut i wasn't confident at all in that vote, but i didn't want to vote shrek at all.

for the zyla thing, i voted her pretty early on. of course she wouldn't be serious danger of getting elimed.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:15 pm
by marcistar
oh oop i totally should've put this in that same post :cry:

pavowski, so whats ur order rn of least scummiest to scummiest?

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:01 pm
by Umlaut
Really not a fan of Zyla and Alstro lining me up to be the next launch after N_M if he flips town.

(This is mostly a prodge, I'll try to do a reread this weekend though)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:29 am
by Pavowski
In post 733, marcistar wrote:
In post 729, Pavowski wrote:
In post 726, marcistar wrote:
In post 723, Pavowski wrote:I'm a little more sus of Marci than I was for taking what look like "easy" votes,
whats ur definition of easy votes wth
Not a hard-and-fast term, but given that the prospect of a NM elimination was pretty much "meh" on d1 and Zyla was never really in serious danger of getting eliminated -- especially when you voted her -- I would consider those easy votes
i agree, my not_mafia was totally just an easy vote. i dont remember if i said around the timebut i wasn't confident at all in that vote, but i didn't want to vote shrek at all.

for the zyla thing, i voted her pretty early on. of course she wouldn't be serious danger of getting elimed.
Kinda my point exactly here, I have yet to see a strong read from you one way or another.
marcistar wrote:oh oop i totally should've put this in that same post :cry:

pavowski, so whats ur order rn of least scummiest to scummiest?
Kinda thought I gave it in my post after looking at d1 votes but I'll make it more explicit, I guess right now my POE looks something like

Luke

Alstro

Umlaut
Marci
Zyla

NM



I think on d1 I was townreading too many folks and now it feels like I am scumreading too many. I am really having a hard time getting a read on Umlaut especially and I don't like it, but he says he'll post more soon and I guess I'll wait on that

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:36 am
by Pavowski
Meanwhile the day is ticking away

VOTE: Not_Mafia

The push he wants for Luke is opportunistic and doesn't make sense

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:37 am
by Pavowski
That's e-1 btw.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:38 am
by Lukewarm
The urge to lolhammer Not_Mafia is strong, because, well, he is Not_Mafia lol

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:40 am
by Lukewarm
In post 725, Zyla wrote:I've got to head out for a bit though, so I'll make more in depth posts when I can
But I think Zyla has something to say?

So, I will wait for that

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:44 am
by Pavowski
Would absolutely blow my mind to see a Luke lolhammer in any situation, ever

This is probably your best opportunity

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:19 am
by alstroemerial
Umlaut, do you not like it because it's you, or because you disagree with my logic?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:40 am
by Umlaut
I don't like lining up launches like that in general, but it does make it worse given that I know I'm town.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:47 am
by Not_Mafia
Scum team is Heatstroke and Doggoslope

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:22 am
by alstroemerial
Fair enough on the playstyle thing Umlaut -- from what I've heard, pre-flip associations can be a little wobbly but since one is the leading vote and not many have given you a super hard look I thought I might as well make the observation.

As for Not_Mafia, I'm assuming Heatstroke=Lukewarm but I'm having a hard time figuring out Doggoslope.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:31 am
by marcistar
In post 736, Pavowski wrote:Kinda my point exactly here, I have yet to see a strong read from you one way or another.
having hard time in all my lately games :dead:

its been easier to do townreads

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:41 am
by Not_Mafia
In post 737, Pavowski wrote:Meanwhile the day is ticking away

VOTE: Not_Mafia

The push he wants for Luke is opportunistic and doesn't make sense
This is a very scummy E-1

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:03 pm
by Umlaut
In post 747, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 737, Pavowski wrote:Meanwhile the day is ticking away

VOTE: Not_Mafia

The push he wants for Luke is opportunistic and doesn't make sense
This is a very scummy E-1
How do you distinguish it from a towny E-1?

I'm ready to hear you out on this but you have to say something.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:29 pm
by Lukewarm
Just to be clear, I have plan on hammering after Zyla has gotten a chance to check in.

@Not_Mafia, are you gonna claim?