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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:55 pm
by Mewtaph
In post 699, Mewtaph wrote: In post 693, datsi wrote: In post 663, T3 wrote:
I've found that quietly solving the game and making a point of not telling people what your reads are usually comes form town.
You learn that by seeing yourself play?
Also idk if the description you gave fits what Mew has been doing
How would you describe what I'm doing (take 2 of trying to get you to explain your read on me)?
I missed
684. Never mind, ignore this.
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:32 pm
by Mewtaph
In post 272, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:pedit: Mewtaph I haven't formed a read yet. I think I was scum with him a long time ago either in a newbie or a micro so I'll be looking into that at some point.
I'm inclined to townlean just because of the wagon on him but that's not good enough to take him off the table D1 so I'll still have to read.
@ssbm_Kyouko: Can you explain this townlean after finding out that Roden is IC and Salsabil faria being your strongest town read? If those two are true, on what basis were you inclined to townlean me for the wagon as you describe in
272?
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:34 pm
by Mewtaph
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:50 pm
by Salsabil Faria
I'm sick, will play when feel better.
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:10 pm
by Mewtaph
In post 725, Mewtaph wrote: In post 699, Mewtaph wrote: In post 693, datsi wrote: In post 663, T3 wrote:
I've found that quietly solving the game and making a point of not telling people what your reads are usually comes form town.
You learn that by seeing yourself play?
Also idk if the description you gave fits what Mew has been doing
How would you describe what I'm doing (take 2 of trying to get you to explain your read on me)?
I missed
684. Never mind, ignore this.
Alright, get better soon.
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:10 pm
by Mewtaph
Did not mean to quote that. Whoops.
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:37 pm
by Dwlee99
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:44 pm
by Datisi
In post 689, innocentvillager wrote:i just can't imagine scum!me going "ugh im so exhausted, im literally going to NOT POST and pretend i was just gone, instead of at least checking in with the thread and joining RVS"
i mean, i dunno, i actually could see that happening
ugh. is it bad that i'm getting cold feet on iv now? like, i don't think the "forgot about the game" is necessarily a lie (since i remember a game where a town player forgot about a game). IF it's not a lie then i think it's town!indicative since scum would also post in the scum pt so smaller odds of forgetting. but i can't really tell if he's telling the truth about forgetting or not
the ate from iv is a bit annoying i won't lie, but it seems to be going much further than it did in the recently finished 9:12, but i know that's not something i should base my read on
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:46 pm
by Datisi
then again, i know i just said i could see that happening, but surely scum!iv would know that me/datsi/dwlee would be paying a tree to him, especially as we just witnessed him saying how much he hates scum, and that we would start getting suspicious of him when he wouldn't be posting, so he'd be entering the game with some pressure on him already and uuuuuugh
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:47 pm
by Dwlee99
Someone pointed out you get a day start pm so it's weird to me he didn't post RVS seeing that pm
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:49 pm
by Datisi
In post 714, datsi wrote:Also, his read on me is like, honestly the biggest towntell I can pinpoint, my play here is literally the antithesis of the game he’s comparing to where I was scum, so regardless of your read on me IV should be obvious town
can you explain this? why is iv town for noticing a difference in your play between the two games?
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:51 pm
by Datisi
In post 734, Dwlee99 wrote:Someone pointed out you get a day start pm so it's weird to me he didn't post RVS seeing that pm
so i went to check, the game i'm thinking of also had a daystart role pm, and a town player still somehow forgot about it so /shrug
i guess it's theoretically possible
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:54 pm
by Dwlee99
Yea it sounds like something I'd do
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:58 pm
by Datisi
VOTE: t3
too many slots feel like mud right now, this game is tiring. i feel weird feelings about mew? like he's plenty active in the game but i cannot figure out what he's trying to do and whether he's trying to do anything in the first place. it's weird.
also, i am kind of disappointed nobody tried to interact with my discussion of kyouko's case. or to convince me she's town. oh well.
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:02 am
by innocentvillager
ugh I’m sorry am I coming off as a grade A asshole this game? i don’t want to be the one that makes this game toxic. I’m sorry I just get a little fiery sometimes when I’m getting severe heat. As town it’s genuine as scum i try to emulate it like in recent micro 1026.
I don’t feel that I am being manipulative or gaslighty to me I’m just letting some of my emotions out but if that’s what it’s coming off as I’ll try to minimize it more.
and “Remorse” was probably too extreme of a word, I literally just meant that I think the E1 was very damaging to the gamestate but she was still adamantly defending her actions.
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:09 am
by innocentvillager
yes i did forget about this game why would I lie about that it makes no sense there’s no agenda that I’m furthering by doing that
To repiece it together a bit, I think what happened was I got the day start PM, was still near the end of my other game finishing a last ditch wall so I was focused on that then “dipped” because I had a busy weekend with my partner. Ig this game was never really at the forefront of my mind and I just forgot about it idk
and yes I care more about it now having been thrown headfirst into the leading wagon and almost dying
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:10 am
by innocentvillager
In post 734, Dwlee99 wrote:Someone pointed out you get a day start pm so it's weird to me he didn't post RVS seeing that pm
Dwlee how do u go from here to here so quickly?
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:11 am
by Dwlee99
Cause I do weird things?
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:12 am
by innocentvillager
In post 705, Aristeia wrote: In post 694, innocentvillager wrote:idk
datisi - i honestly have no idea on datisi nothing he's done makes me think town or scum. push on me was bad but i can see it from scum him too. sorry dayteezee i know u are good at getting ppl to townread you but not me yet. i feel like as i keep interacting with you ill get a better sense for your alignment
salsa - i get a T3/unabombah vibe from this slot very spammy and ico style catchup lol. granted una was scum in the game im thinking of but vibe here is very frazzled. idk i can't really put into words here yet but meh.
dwlee - i think some of their earlier posting was fine and reminiscent of our recent game but i wasn't exactly trying to read dwlee there so idk this reread dwlee didn't stand out like at all. idk
also I townread everyone in this section so uh lol?
can you explain why you townread these 3? does me not necessarily having a strong lean on these ppl make me scummy?
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:14 am
by innocentvillager
lol
in general when ppl call stuff weird in this game without qualification I feel like they are shading/implying said action was scummy so just wanted to clarify ig
do you feel like people should have u as town rn?
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:18 am
by Dwlee99
I thought it was kinda weird in a scummy way but also could just be a thing that people do because it happens. I once forgot that someone fake dayvigilante'd me in a previous game and said that it was the first time I'd been dayvigilante'd after I made a pretty big deal thinking it was real. And then people pulled out someone saying they were dayvigging me in a different game and then I got mislimmed lol
Well t3 said I'm meta town so I guess they should sure
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:32 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 726, Mewtaph wrote: In post 272, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:pedit: Mewtaph I haven't formed a read yet. I think I was scum with him a long time ago either in a newbie or a micro so I'll be looking into that at some point.
I'm inclined to townlean just because of the wagon on him but that's not good enough to take him off the table D1 so I'll still have to read.
@ssbm_Kyouko: Can you explain this townlean after finding out that Roden is IC and Salsabil faria being your strongest town read? If those two are true, on what basis were you inclined to townlean me for the wagon as you describe in
272?
Roden being IC just meant 1 of the 5 votes on you was guaranteed to be from town, and that revelation didn't have a bearing on my impression of the wagon on you. Salsa was not a townread at the time. I was thinking her vote was also scummy, potentially moreso than Roden's. The pedit you quoted was posted at the time that I had read through
215.
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:33 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
I'm so meta, even this acronym
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:55 am
by T3
In post 686, Dwlee99 wrote: In post 683, T3 wrote:I really don't want to reveal this tell because this is the holy grail of meta tells (note that Dwlee has no scumgames since Open Draft so this tell might have gone away)
Have you checked it against all 30+ of my games since May?
It's accurate across 9 towngames and 2 scumgames and those are all the ones I've checked.
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:56 am
by T3
In post 693, datsi wrote: In post 663, T3 wrote:
I've found that quietly solving the game and making a point of not telling people what your reads are usually comes form town.
You learn that by seeing yourself play?
Also idk if the description you gave fits what Mew has been doing
Just from what I've seen other people do
