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Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:17 am**

UNVOTE:

will think about it

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:42 am**

votecount 1.12

Radical Rat (4) :

Taroumatu ; Almost50 ; Yuki Takeya ; MegAzumaril

Aristophanes (3) :

Dragon Of The West ; unwnd

Kop (3) :

NDmath ; Skybird ; Gamma Emerald

Almost50 (2) :

superbowl9 ; Radical Rat

Dragon Of The West (1) :

Aristophanes

Skybird (1) :

Kop

Not Voting (2) :

Dwlee99 ; Titus

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-10-03 10:06:01), it takes 9 votes to execute rsomeone

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:58 am**

VOTE: Kop

Wait this wagon is actually going.

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:01 am**

@Meg:

In post 686, Kop wrote:Before this wagon even starts on me, I can prove my role and I can prove its town.

I don't see why we should yeet this on D1. We can always come back to it on D2. I mean, this is no Normal Game, so we shouldn't fear "Scum 1-shot bla bla"

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:11 am**

In post 728, Almost50 wrote:@Meg:

In post 686, Kop wrote:Before this wagon even starts on me, I can prove my role and I can prove its town.
I don't see why we should yeet this on D1. We can always come back to it on D2. I mean, this is no Normal Game, so we shouldn't fear "Scum 1-shot bla bla"

Oh yeah now I remember why I left the wagon in the first place.

VOTE: RR

Forgot Kop claimed IC.

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:13 am**

In post 723, Almost50 wrote:
In post 710, Skybird wrote:How does everyone feel about the SB9 slot? I could vote there or RR.
My limited experience tells me a slot that's going to get replaced doesn't get eliminated here. Please vote RR.

I was specific. I asked if he would rather kill a townie over a No Lim
assuming he was Town himself
, and his answer confirmed it was the case. He asserted that in a follow up post, so assuming he is Town he should have no problem being the yeet of the day.

The reason it's a better lim than -say- Ari is I don't TR RR, mastina doesn't TR him, Titus doesn't TR him, but STD (a major suspect for both me and the mastinas, and a null for Titus) actually does TR him. It's a test for how good our collective reads are, and it removes a slot that's obviously hard to read.

Ari not only can prove his role, but we can deduce his alignment through his picks and use of them. That -obviously- includes RR's ability(ies) tonight, so we lose nothing.

See, this is exactly what I expected to happen when you asked that question of me. And I think it was scummy of you to set that up.

However, as noted, I am indeed okay with dying here if it's what must be done. I don't think I SHOULD be the lim, obviously, but it is better than a no lim, and Ari being able to use my role helps me feel a lot better about things. IF he answers my question about how his role actually works anyway...

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:17 am**

VOTE: Radical Rat

I think this is fine

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:20 am**

RR we will want a claim at some point.

Not nessacarily now but better you give it before you die than not, I suppose

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:30 am**

I'd planned on it at E-1

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:37 am**

If you aren't online when you are put to e-1 you may get hammered before then this close to dl.

Do when you feel is best

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:55 am**

Oh, and I also have a suggestion: Since RR is being cooperative here, I think we should let him self-hammer. That way we don't have a Hated player on D2. I think that's better than having either Dwlee or Meg start the day @ 1 vote already

Opinions?

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:56 am**

In post 728, Almost50 wrote:@Meg:

In post 686, Kop wrote:Before this wagon even starts on me, I can prove my role and I can prove its town.
I don't see why we should yeet this on D1. We can always come back to it on D2. I mean, this is no Normal Game, so we shouldn't fear "Scum 1-shot bla bla"

How does this not being normal prevent Scum 1-shot roles from existing?

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:59 am**

To my understanding; AI doesn't need to use gated roles to balance a setup. We -humans- do because we had already planned to use certain roles and their counters. AI doesn't stick to definite plan so I think it can produce a setup with no gated roles (I mean, everybody's a PR already)

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:04 pm**

In post 735, Almost50 wrote:Oh, and I also have a suggestion: Since RR is being cooperative here, I think we should let him self-hammer. That way we don't have a Hated player on D2. I think that's better than having either Dwlee or Meg start the day @ 1 vote already

Opinions?

I hate this.

It makes perfect sense, and is probably the correct course of action, regardless of who we wind up eliminating. Dwlee hammer mitigates the effect of the hated miller thing, but self-hammer makes it actually just do nothing, which is objectively better, and I cannot argue with it, but I hate it.

You're still gonna have to get nine people on board with the elimination though. I'll hammer as a formality, but I'm not going to facilitate my own elimination.

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:06 pm**

In post 737, Almost50 wrote:To my understanding; AI doesn't need to use gated roles to balance a setup. We -humans- do because we had already planned to use certain roles and their counters. AI doesn't stick to definite plan so I think it can produce a setup with no gated roles (I mean, everybody's a PR already)

I mean, Ari's role is limited to one shot per corpse.

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:09 pm**

Thank you.

P=edit: Yes.. per corpse. This means he has less shots than there are roles (1 yeet + "at least" 1 NK per cycle). What I meant was no -say- 1-shot Rolecop/Strongman/Ninja etc. You know.. the roles that Scum usually thrive to survive "one more day/night" to use and then become a Goon.

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:18 pm**

I don't think RR should be limmed but I don't feel super strongly on it

Cya tomorrow

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:30 pm**

VOTE: DotW

Hi. Random train because my brain told me to.

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:46 pm**

Rap, I'm not sure what to do.

Titus, do you think DotW is the best lim?

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:47 pm**

That should have been crap.

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:04 pm**

I don't mind a DotW lim if there's enough support to that

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:40 pm**

In post 706, Radical Rat wrote:Flips give information. Information catches scum.
A no lim tells us nothing, and should be avoided except in unusual circumstances, such as MeLo.

If the information you seek is from my death, so be it.

This is a really weird vibe
I think under proper circumstances no elim D1 can still be telling going forward, key example being the Among Us game where I nailed I think 2 scum to the wall for weird behavior in the heat of the moment (this is probably mischaracterization of the facts but w/e)

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:45 pm**

In post 728, Almost50 wrote:@Meg:

In post 686, Kop wrote:Before this wagon even starts on me, I can prove my role and I can prove its town.
I don't see why we should yeet this on D1. We can always come back to it on D2. I mean, this is no Normal Game, so we shouldn't fear "Scum 1-shot bla bla"

Tbh I think it’s real easy to claim you can confirm yourself like this, this is not just a UPick but one that’s in a sense randomly generated. I could totally see scum getting powers only town should get in theory
But tbh I should actually move my vote, I just don’t know where I want to put it.

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:46 pm**

VOTE: Almost50
I wanna give RR some room, and agree that this feels like a sus angle from A50

Posted: **Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:01 pm**

VOTE: RR
I definitely prefer this to A50.
This is probably the towniest A50 has been in my experience with him; he's been heavily advancing the game, his tone is well-intentioned, and the high activity is also a good sign for him.

@Gamma, What does 'some room' even mean this late into the day phase?

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