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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:28 am
by Meuh
In post 724, MegAzumarill wrote:Also the push on me on the grounds of opportunism is so bad it's almost laughable for 2 reasons.

1. I've been on greetings case since d1.
2. There would be not one but 2 easier Mislims for me to push if I was scum. These being strange or prohawk. Even if one would be my partner why wouldn't I get the other killed if I wanted a free townie dead.

Maybe provide an actual valid reason if you want to wagon someone to e-1. The wagon on me formed very quick over me pointing out the obvious, it almost definitely has some scum in there. I'll analyze it shortly
On point 2, there’s still the idea that if let’s say you were scum with Strange and then you accepted the scumpool of you/Strange/ProHawk, even if you get ProHawk mislimed, you and Strange then become the obvious votes on day 3. Scum!Meg would benefit from changing the narrative in that situation and expanding the scumpool to more effectively hide later on.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:30 am
by Meuh
No clue why that post has small text, I didn’t click on that :eek:

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:30 am
by Meuh
In post 726, Meuh wrote:No clue why that post has small text, I didn’t click on that :eek:
It’s not small anymore?? Website’s bugging out on my end what even

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:33 am
by MegAzumarill
The bigger problem with my flip is I don't think it gives any information going into limlo.
If I flip town what do we learn?

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:35 am
by MegAzumarill
I swear if you end up getting blindsided by a marci/Greeting team it will not be a pretty postgame

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:58 am
by ProHawk
Talk to me about Greeting, I am getting a lot of newb town feels from that slot.

I'm open to a marci elimination though.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:59 am
by ProHawk
In post 719, marcistar wrote:so u have a motive to kill her? :eyes:
Yes, pretty sure I already explained why, but it wasn't me.

Is Prism a Titus ALT?

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:03 pm
by MegAzumarill
In post 730, ProHawk wrote:Talk to me about Greeting, I am getting a lot of newb town feels from that slot.

I'm open to a marci elimination though.
I swear I've spent half the game casing that slot.


Just do me a favor.
Read this

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

And I swear you won't be able to tell me it's the same Greeting.

It is night and day

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:04 pm
by ProHawk
In post 719, marcistar wrote:whats pot shots mean here..?
"the chances of prohawk being town are low, but never 0"

":shifty: is cabd scum..?"

"whered u talk abt ur meg azumarill read..?
or did u not..
?"

"prohawk did u already say what u think of strangematter or no..?"

Examples of slinging mud from the sidelines. What I call pot-shots.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:23 pm
by ProHawk
In post 732, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 730, ProHawk wrote:Talk to me about Greeting, I am getting a lot of newb town feels from that slot.

I'm open to a marci elimination though.
I swear I've spent half the game casing that slot.


Just do me a favor.
Read this

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

And I swear you won't be able to tell me it's the same Greeting.

It is night and day
I'll try to work on this meta-dive tonight.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:40 pm
by Greeting
I am definitely okay with a
MegAzumarill
elim today. Like I said before, their behavior has assured me why
Titus
was killed off.

Their partner is one out of:
StrangeMatter
,
ProHawk
. I guess I’d rather vote out the latter first before the former.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:42 pm
by Greeting
I don’t think what
MegAzumarill
is doing is opportunistic at all, it’s a deliberate plan which involves killing one dangerous slot (
Prism
) and selectively using their reads to implicate another (myself).

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:58 pm
by Greeting
Apparently the bulk of my case is meta, of two of my games in particular: N2078 and N2081. I feel like I addressed this already, but let me bring it up again.
In post 562, Greeting wrote: While it is true, I posted significantly more stuff like this in N2078 and N2081, due to what I perceived as a negative reaction from other players I toned it down a bit. And that can already be seen in N2082, a game in which I was town.
And there's not much more to it. I guess if someone doesn't believe it, then there's nothing more I can do about it than what I've already done. I don't think the push for me comes from town at all though.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:03 pm
by Greeting
We have 7 players left. Which means that we have two more chances to vote out scum. My bet and my choice is to focus on the earlier mentioned three, if indeed two of them are scum, then the game should be solved.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:18 pm
by Greeting
In post 722, MegAzumarill wrote:I am not the lim today.
This game is pretty much solved from my perspective.

Meuh and Cape are almost definitely town.
Prohawk is not s/s with marcistar.

I am town.

Therefore we have 5 scumteam options: Greeting with strange, prohawk, or Marci.
Or strangematter with Marci/prohawk.

A Greeting into strangehawk lim guarantees we make it to d4 at least. If I get limped we likely lose lylo
This is not a solve of a game.
Not just because I'm town. Mathematically it doesn't add up. Let's say we vote out myself today. What will you do when I flip town? You have three suspects left, amongst whom two are scums.

We get
two more chances
to vote out scum. If it doesn't happen today, D3 is eliminate or lose. You named four suspects: myself,
StrangeMatter
,
ProHawk
and
marcistar
, but mathematically at most only two of them can be. Which means that by going with your plan, a it is entirely possible that the game is not solved.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:43 pm
by MegAzumarill
Unless I'm way off base greeting Strangematter is s/t or s/s.

This is at least one partner and I think the odds are good we can spot the partner.
I've got which is which in mind but I don't think its a good call to say now.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:24 pm
by ProHawk
FFS Titus is not in this game

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:27 pm
by Greeting
In post 741, ProHawk wrote:FFS Titus is not in this game
I’m sorry, I meant
Prism
. I had played with Titus before and I was reading that game. And I guess post confused me.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:10 pm
by Datisi
vote count 2.02

with 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-12-07 07:00:00).


elimination
MegAzumarill [2]:
Greeting, marcistar
Greeting [1]:
MegAzumarill
StrangeMatter [1]:
ProHawk

not voting [3]:
StrangeMatter, Cape90, Meuh


mod notes~ one two seven three


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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:16 am
by ProHawk
In post 742, Greeting wrote:And I guess post 731 confused me.
wut?

you were the one who called Prism Titus first, not me...

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:27 am
by Greeting
In post 744, ProHawk wrote:
In post 742, Greeting wrote:And I guess post 731 confused me.
wut?

you were the one who called Prism Titus first, not me...
I checked and you’re right. I didn’t even notice that.

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:41 am
by ProHawk
Let's not stall out here.
Let's get a general consensus with 2-3 IRL days on the calendar and not run down to the wire in case we need to make a change in decision *last mintue*

I have seen a lot of people throwing out StrangeMatter on their list of mafia candidates, why isn't there more of a push here?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:41 am
by StrangeMatter
In post 746, ProHawk wrote:Let's not stall out here.
Let's get a general consensus with 2-3 IRL days on the calendar and not run down to the wire in case we need to make a change in decision *last mintue*

I have seen a lot of people throwing out StrangeMatter on their list of mafia candidates, why isn't there more of a push here?
Why do you keep trying to throw shade (that's what it feels like) onto people?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:00 am
by Datisi
prodding Cape90.

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:07 am
by Cape90
Apologies I am here at work, I will be more available to give thoughts tomorrow. Work has drained me.

Most likely pairing to me is probably meg/hawk though I will have to take a closer look at the options when I actually get the time