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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:45 am
by Frozen Angel
In post 723, Nero Cain wrote:the eyes-angel back and forth on p.22 is terrible. Angel being hyper defensive about potentially being suspected for being a replace-in is a bad look.
where was I "defensive"
nothing I said to eye was even about me
It was about how eye didn't mention anyone else but me when he made the theory at first and then it was because he claimed he was reaction testing and didn't follow up on it "to avoid heat"
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:47 am
by Frozen Angel
I believe you're trying to omgus me right now with these continuous misrepresentations. and this build-up to it is screaming fake as well.
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:48 am
by Nero Cain
saying "oh if he's scum its an ez fakeclaim"
is not that different than me saying that if he were scum he'd (fakeclaim) a pr.
of course, you didn't even call him scum but then who the fuck thinks that he's TOWN fakeclaiming? That's not something town thinks ever
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:49 am
by Nero Cain
In post 726, Frozen Angel wrote:I believe you're trying to omgus me right now with these continuous misrepresentations. and this build-up to it is screaming fake as well.
im not misrepping you lol
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:50 am
by Nero Cain
bullshit, you were all over his case b/c he believes in a dumbass theory
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:53 am
by Frozen Angel
In post 727, Nero Cain wrote:saying "oh if he's scum its an ez fakeclaim"
is not that different than me saying that if he were scum he'd (fakeclaim) a pr.
of course, you didn't even call him scum but then who the fuck thinks that he's TOWN fakeclaiming? That's not something town thinks ever
Misrepresenting: I never even accused him of fake claiming I said I find backup the easiest possible fake claim for scum when analyzing the claim
That's not even related to my read on the slot.
and yes you are misrepresenting me with eye too. Saying I was defensive with eye when I was the one asking all the questions/making push/being aggressive by every definition aggressive can mean. There was nothing there for me to be defensive about.
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:56 am
by Frozen Angel
In post 729, Nero Cain wrote:
bullshit, you were all over his case b/c he believes in a dumbass theory
In post 421, Frozen Angel wrote:
Well, it's a weird take and absolutely wrong especially for people who got forced replaced by a mod before even posting once, and maybe only would work if it was a trust tell for that said player. It's like saying it's more probable that a coin will always fall on its head side. and you saying it the way you did,
especially since we had multiple replace in this same game (Dwlee99, Nero Cain, Stephan) and you only mentioned me
, so makes me wonder
Do you have actual reasoning for your suspicion or was it just that?
In post 506, Frozen Angel wrote: In post 503, Dwlee99 wrote: In post 217, Eyes without a face wrote:Early townreads on both Andante and Dwlee for seemingly being the driving forces of the game getting out of RVS so quickly.
In post 408, Eyes without a face wrote:Well I know this is going to bring a lot of heat my way but I should let you all know I tend to suspect replacements more. I guess it was DGB (if memory serves me right) that once said if we eliminate all replacements town always wins (or something to that effect).
Anyway welcome FA.
Also @Andante I do appreciate the townread but something tells me I have yet to earn it. Do you tend to townread people who townread you?
yeap that's what I was trying to say.
In post 511, Frozen Angel wrote: In post 510, Dwlee99 wrote:There's a difference between cognitive dissonance and not paying attention/changing your mind etc.
And if you think all the reads are fabricated then ???
The slot is not doing work and the read they make is fabricated.
which is why he deserved a spot here in my read:
so for me, my vote currently kinda has to go on either Andate which is fluff posting and fabricating stuff but has yet to catch up again they say, eyes which is actually a good vote even without much content posted cause that moves of them for going after that theory just felt so fake, and it gives a good insight about the people who gave reads around the slot without having any reasons and the wagon that got constructed on him.
I just have enough experience to not instantly call the slot scum even for fabricating reads and have this doubt that with their self-awareness that doing it will bring them heat/they might just be the lazy town not doing anything and wanting to run away from questions - even though I was the first person who called this and repeatedly emphasized on it when people tried to move on from actually investigating the slot
In post 545, Frozen Angel wrote: In post 534, Dwlee99 wrote: In post 520, HockeyFan wrote:@Dwlee, in 505, u said eyes+FA could be partnered(presumably cuz of 503?), but why are u big on that being a partnery psot, when the same logic can be applied to u. Eyes TR'D you even after u being a replacement
FA defense + Eyes treating me and FA different for same thing could indicate FA and I are different alignments if eyes is scum which would make me think she is scum
first - what defense?
You're going in a tunnel vision on them for their replace theory thing. we both see their reads are fake but you outright go from that to them being mafia and I don't because I'm just not gonna agree with it that it can't be done by town. That doesn't mean I'm defending the slot. I was questioning it way earlier than you jumped on its wagon and did way more to sort the slot and the people jumping to vote him than you.
then you go with association hunting which is consistent with your previous line of thinking and behavior so I actually like your slot a bit more for saying it; even if it's the recipe for failure.
I literally was even accused of defending the slot as I was not scum reading them dumping in that theory and believing they only mentioned me
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:56 am
by Nero Cain
so exactly how is that different than me saying that if he were scum he'd claim pr?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:57 am
by Frozen Angel
In post 546, Frozen Angel wrote: In post 544, Eyes without a face wrote: In post 408, Eyes without a face wrote:Well I know this is going to bring a lot of heat my way but I should let you all know I tend to suspect replacements more. I guess it was DGB (if memory serves me right) that once said if we eliminate all replacements town always wins (or something to that effect).
Anyway welcome FA.
Also @Andante I do appreciate the townread but something tells me I have yet to earn it. Do you tend to townread people who townread you?
In post 413, Eyes without a face wrote:Maybe not but statistically scum replace out more than town do and especially so at the start of the game. Someone who doesn't like to play scum or someone who didn't like their teammates or someone who thought one of their own are going down too early. I do not promote it to be a 100% plan but early replacement have a higher %age of being scum than you would expect.
these were my two posts in concern and I don't see anyone's particular name except if you count my saying hello to you which still doesn't say I suspected you and nobody else
so now you're saying that the replace post was not even directed at me?
In post 550, Frozen Angel wrote:no, you didn't mean it as a general concept. You specifically mentioned my slot twice right after the theory
VOTE: Eyes without a face
In post 554, Frozen Angel wrote:
so you're saying you didn't say the theory to even remotely hint that you
find me scummier than others
and the greeting was just a greeting
and that
In post 414, fireisredsir wrote:eyes, is that the only thought you have on the thread? more please, give some opinions on people at least
This was in reference to me saying "you state that you have early tr on adante and dwlee for taking the game out of RVS, making no sense"?
It was always about the way he was persuing his theory not the people he was persuing
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:00 am
by Nero Cain
for someone supposedly not being defensive, there's alot of "me"s
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:02 am
by Nero Cain
Also, note that Angel isn't commenting on her doublespeak of calling Eyes scum while simultaneously calling me out for calling Eyes
413 bad.
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:02 am
by Scorpious
In post 695, wavemode wrote:and other times he's this very dramatic and surface-level "how DARE you not answer my question the first time I asked it! thou scum!!"
another mis rep, I don't think I've called you scum once this game, and we already addressed this(half that post was for someone else), Please stop pushing cases you hope people are too lazy to go back and confirm..
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:02 am
by Frozen Angel
In post 732, Nero Cain wrote:
so exactly how is that different than me saying that if he were scum he'd claim pr?
You said scum would claim pr - so is a town so it's best if we let him alive for a few days. You never gave an actual read on the slot that I can follow. Just said yeah it can be either scum or town lol
Its not even close to what I was saying about how claiming backup is one of the easiest possible fake claims. I took a clear stance on the slot - even if I'm confused about his goofy play and can't call him town he is clearly not a top suspect of mine and that is not related to his claim at all.
mine is a clear analysis. yours is a clear distancing. that's the disfference.
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:03 am
by Scorpious
In post 695, wavemode wrote:and I feel like the transitions between the two have occurred purely at opportunistic times
and what opportunity have I been provided?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:04 am
by Nero Cain
VOTE: Frozen Angel
call it an OMGUS if it makes you feel better but this is a scum slot
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:04 am
by Andante
Hockey isn't towny, and I don't like the claim, I don't think I've ever seen a backup in a normal game. the claim literally just buys time. I'm keeping my vote on Hockey
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:05 am
by Frozen Angel
so It was about how he mentioned me and no one else.
It was not about me defending myself. It was about how he didn't mention or work on any one else
supposedly that was a misunderstanding and he didn't even mention me for his theory - which is what both me and dwlee assumed back there and I thought that's what you understood from his initial post as well based on your earlier posts
Oh yeah here is another me in this post. how is me being related to his theory, makes those posts defensive?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:07 am
by Frozen Angel
In post 735, Nero Cain wrote:Also, note that Angel isn't commenting on her doublespeak of calling Eyes scum while simultaneously calling me out for calling Eyes
413 bad.
I did not double-speak of eye. I was challenging dwlees read on the slot, but then found something "else" alarming about it regardless along the way.
here is another misrepresentation
and the fakest build up to a vote against my slot in history of fake gaming.
Nero is not solving the game, he is mafia.
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:07 am
by Nero Cain
Why would my read change just b/c he claimed backup? I've been calling him scum all day so you are 100% lying when you say that I never gave a read.
no yours isn't lol
quick q. a player claims a pr on d1. Do you vote them out?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:09 am
by Nero Cain
YOU ARE ADMITTING YOU WERE BEING DEFENSIVE
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:10 am
by Andante
I'm pretty sure Nero is town here, unsure on Frozen so far
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:12 am
by Frozen Angel
In post 743, Nero Cain wrote:
Why would my read change just b/c he claimed backup? I've been calling him scum all day so you are 100% lying when you say that I never gave a read.
no yours isn't lol
quick q. a player claims a pr on d1. Do you vote them out?
They claimed backup not a pr. and yes I would keep my vote on them even if it was for that claim. Backup is not a PR. backup is literally nothing right now, no way for verification.
Its like the easiest fake claim someone can possibly do.
Your iso is really filled with nothing. giving a bit of vibing with whatever person gets some traction and distancing. and the moment you felt I'm onto you, you tried to act like I was doing the same thing you were.
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:13 am
by Andante
backup becomes the first pr to die... so yes backup is a pr claim
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:14 am
by Frozen Angel
NO I'M NOT
It was about how he mentioned no one else the questions at start. I was even defending him and calling it not inherently scummy at that point.
I voted him when he claimed he didn't mention me right after theory for it, then convinced me it might have been the case and a misunderstanding but alarmed me again by refusing to push his own reaction test to not gain heat when his theory was for gaining heat and reaction testing according to himself
You're just full of shit!
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:14 am
by Nero Cain
a 15' join date doesn't think backup is a pr claim. jesus