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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:17 am
by Enchant
If furtive is town and die today, i will die next day quarantee anyway.

Keeping silence for muse in this case is throwing, yes.


I am not asking muses claim today at all.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:40 am
by numberQ
Spoiler: Flowers
Image
Édouard Manet,
Flowers in a Crystal Vase
(1882)


Vote Count (2.10)


butterflies
[1]
Enchant
[E-2]
Enchant
[3]
Umlaut, Titus, furtiveglance
fireisredsir
[0]

furtiveglance
[2]
butterflies, ItalianoVD
implosion
[0]

ItalianoVD
[1]
fireisredsir
Noraa
[0]

Titus
[0]

Umlaut
[0]


With
9
alive, it takes
5
to eliminate.

Not Voting:
implosion, Noraa
Deadline:
April 14th, 2022, 4:15 PM EST ((expired on 2022-04-14 16:15:00))

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:02 am
by butterflies
In post 725, Enchant wrote:If furtive is town and die today, i will die next day quarantee anyway.

Keeping silence for muse in this case is throwing, yes.


I am not asking muses claim today at all.
Given how active this game has been, honestly I'm thinking the muses are active - and while you're not activly asking, you've definitely been fishing.

-butterflea

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:07 am
by fireisredsir
enchant, do you think butterflies is maf?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:05 am
by Titus
Still should lim Enchant scum but willing to go furtiveglance

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:09 am
by Enchant
In post 728, fireisredsir wrote:enchant, do you think butterflies is maf?
Yes, butter have clear scum motive to push anyone else, but me.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:35 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 730, Enchant wrote:
In post 728, fireisredsir wrote:enchant, do you think butterflies is maf?
Yes, butter have clear scum motive to push anyone else, but me.
Surely you can’t
actually
believe this.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:37 am
by Enchant
In post 731, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 730, Enchant wrote:
In post 728, fireisredsir wrote:enchant, do you think butterflies is maf?
Yes, butter have clear scum motive to push anyone else, but me.
Surely you can’t
actually
believe this.
Explain?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:22 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 732, Enchant wrote:
In post 731, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 730, Enchant wrote:
In post 728, fireisredsir wrote:enchant, do you think butterflies is maf?
Yes, butter have clear scum motive to push anyone else, but me.
Surely you can’t
actually
believe this.
Explain?
Explain what?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:34 am
by Enchant
In post 733, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 732, Enchant wrote:
In post 731, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 730, Enchant wrote:
In post 728, fireisredsir wrote:enchant, do you think butterflies is maf?
Yes, butter have clear scum motive to push anyone else, but me.
Surely you can’t
actually
believe this.
Explain?
Explain what?
You joking?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:38 am
by butterflies
In post 734, Enchant wrote:
In post 733, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 732, Enchant wrote:
In post 731, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 730, Enchant wrote:
In post 728, fireisredsir wrote:enchant, do you think butterflies is maf?
Yes, butter have clear scum motive to push anyone else, but me.
Surely you can’t
actually
believe this.
Explain?
Explain what?
You joking?
What is said scum motivation to push anyone but you?

-Butterflea

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:45 am
by Enchant
When i flip town, your whole "Scumteam" will ruin, because main reasoning you use is bussing and this artist slip.


If furtive is town, you gonna say "Whops" and then procced to murder me.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:10 am
by butterflies
In post 736, Enchant wrote:When i flip town, your whole "Scumteam" will ruin, because main reasoning you use is bussing and this artist slip.


If furtive is town, you gonna say "Whops" and then procced to murder me.
So this is the scum motivation to push anyone BUT you?
(Despite that as long as you or Furtive are todays elimination, we don't care which. We just have a preference)

So where's my scum motivation to go as big as I have on reads?

-Butterflea.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:11 am
by Enchant
You only started saying "I don't care" after i called you.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:30 am
by butterflies
Assuming this is your call out? Or the one from before where you say "Why aren't we voting for you then?"
In post 716, Enchant wrote:VOTE: butterflies

butter not voting me, because me flipping town ruins whole plan. It's in t...HYDRA interest to keep me alive and elim my SCUMBUDDIES instead, because if they flip town, simple "Oh well, now lim Enchant i think for sure" quarantee mafia win, unless muse intervene, and they somehow suck in this game.
In post 646, butterflies wrote:
In post 643, butterflies wrote:
In post 639, butterflies wrote:
In post 627, butterflies wrote:Two things, furtive.

Spoiler: Thing one
A stale game state only helps scum. Keep the game moving to show you're town.


Spoiler: Thing two
In post 626, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 623, butterflies wrote:
furtiveglance wrote:I am hunting - I have given my opinion already. I need flips
You can always hunt. Prod reads, update reads.
What you're doing basically is busywork. Designed to make you look good. I've thrown you a couple bones along this but honestly that newbie smell just ain't right on you.

You need flips for associatives, not in our case because frankly DAAAAAAAAAAMN NANCYS GOOOOOOOOOD. and ngl I fully agree with her having gone over it myself.

You got prodded too meaning you're inactive, are you genuinely that out of avenues to explore that the solution is to idle? Cause the thing is to me your solidifying our solve with your inactivity. You've showed critical thinking and analysis skills above what I'd expect of someone tip-toe-ing out of the newbie queue - which also tells me you have potential to be daaaaamned good.
You've cited a newbie game in your posts here as meta - I'm not a fan of searching out peoples meta I prefer to use live meta, my own experiences of playing with/against someone. Are you telling me if I compare you there to here I'll find someone who starts to slank when apparently out of things to explore?

-Butterflea got lucid and brainpower again.
I've been in situations like this before. Not much is happening and the game has kind of stalled - I'm actually in the majority being fairly inactive. If I re-read the game a thousand times I don't think I'd have some kind of epiphany. As Town in this setup I'm extra conscious of how I act, and it's also more important than usual to listen to your townreads/consensus. I think we are in a good place with the vote today,
if Enchant happens to flip blue
then it's on them for the hammer.
In post 2, numberQ wrote:
Setup:

Chromavalon
  • There are 3 Mafia Goons (or Painter's Blocks, per the flavor). One is
    Red
    , one is
    Yellow
    , and one is
    Blue
    .
Good slip. Thank you for confirming you and enchant are scum.


Thing two is pretty important btw, everyone should have a lil read of that one.


-Butterflea.

He didn’t say if Enchant flips scum, he said
blue
scum. Only players who could possibly know this are blue Merlin and paintblockers and I don’t believe furtive is a muse, so ergo=scumslip.

~Nancyfly
It's not even that furtive could be a muse, the TMI is a scumslip.
Furtive CANNOT be a muse and Enchants confirmation now secures 2 of the 3 scumteam.
Blue Muse SHOULD NOT OUT.
In post 2, numberQ wrote:Each Merlin knows their own color, and the identity of the same color Mafia Goon.
Each Merlin knows who the other two Merlins are, but not their colors.
-ButterFlea

PEDIT: Cause we're voting Furtive, you know, the one who slipped... :P
In post 688, butterflies wrote:In that case fire, I can't help you. If you can work out why furtive is voting enchant who is now a townread in a game where furtive has by their own admission said they're being particular with their vote and need to listen to their townreads, then let me know.

You do not vote your TRs with that long left on the timer.
You do not sit there happily with the game going stagnant with over a week left and your vote parked on a TR.
Furtive has TMI'd Enchant as blue.
Enchant has pretty much confirmed they are blue.

I will not drop this as Furtive has perspective slipped earlier.
In post 66, furtiveglance wrote:Hi everyone, I'll read through, give my thoughts on players, and vote tonight when I get home. As for the strategy talk, I read a previous game of this setup and town actually lost the main game, and the mafia wouldn't have guessed the Merlins correctly. Therefore we might have slightly more wiggle room in terms of Muses influencing the game or even claiming outright than you might expect. The main thing is to ensure we at least win the main game.
There is only one game for town. scum have 2 games, one to solve Muses, the other to elim all town. Both me and Nancy spotted this post as questionable. I threw a bone at the time, but nah. Too many slips and too much evidence at this point.

We yeet either furtive or enchant tbh, cause the other gets yeet tomorrow.
and yes, I am threatening the Tunnel'o'flea.

-Butterflea.
Cause your call out is either before or after these two.

-Butterflea

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:40 am
by butterflies
In post 725, Enchant wrote:If furtive is town and die today, i will die next day quarantee anyway.

Keeping silence for muse in this case is throwing, yes.



I am not asking muses claim today at all.
Dafuq, why are you muse baiting? How is this any different than that suspicious second post by furtive?
In post 66, furtiveglance wrote:Hi everyone, I'll read through, give my thoughts on players, and vote tonight when I get home. As for the strategy talk, I read a previous game of this setup and town actually lost the main game, and the mafia wouldn't have guessed the Merlins correctly. Therefore we might have slightly more wiggle room in terms of Muses influencing the game or even claiming outright than you might expect. The main thing is to ensure we at least win the main game.
Both furtive and Enchant are trying to make muse hunting easier. lololol

~Nancyfly

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:44 am
by butterflies
In post 730, Enchant wrote:
In post 728, fireisredsir wrote:enchant, do you think butterflies is maf?
Yes, butter have clear scum motive to push anyone else, but me.
Yes, we prefer your buddy over you but dw, there’s still d3, and chances are, we probably won’t be alive until then.

~Nancyfly

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:46 am
by butterflies
In post 736, Enchant wrote:When i flip town, your whole "Scumteam" will ruin, because main reasoning you use is bussing and this artist slip.


If furtive is town, you gonna say "Whops" and then procced to murder me.
And if he’s scum, which I strongly believe he is?

~Nancyfly

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:53 am
by butterflies
In the last game I played on here, Pooky called out the entire scumteam and town lost because they didn’t listen to him. Well, I’m channeling Pooky in this game with my solve of furtive/Enchant/Umlaut. Don’t make the mistake town did in that game did by ignoring Pooky’s solve after he died. Don’t let any of them endgame and don’t ignore our reads after we’re dead.

~Nancyfly

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:58 am
by butterflies
In post 738, Enchant wrote:You only started saying "I don't care" after i called you.
In post 713, butterflies wrote:
In post 712, implosion wrote:I prefer both Enchant and furtive over italiano. I think italiano needs more scrutiny particularly if furtive flips town; if furtive flips scum then -shrug- but I mean, I still intend to judge him on his play. I probably prefer Enchant over furtive today in the event that Italiano winds up being scummy tomorrow (and well, I think Enchant-scum is less likely to be wrong than furtive-scum) in which case I'd consider him before furtive situationally. I'm lukewarm on Umlaut at this point. I guess if I'm right on all of butterflies/noraa/fire/Titus being town and furtive/italiano isn't SvS then umlaut would be PoE scum. I don't feel confident enough in those 4 being all town to make any wild declarations though.
If you’re of the opinion, which I’m obviously in agreement of that Italiano and furtive can’t be buddies then wouldn’t a furtive scum flip clear Italiano?

But both heads firmly believe that both furtive and Umlaut want to bus Enchant and I’m not interested in helping scum, particularly when I feel furtive has the most scum equity and Flea and I have already made our case on why we prefer furtive.
If the rest of the playerlist prefers Enchant, I won’t oppose it
(or Umlaut but don’t see that happening until probably d4 at rhe earliest) but both of us prefer furtive > Enchant today.

~Nancyfly
Your bizarrely selective reading is impressive. lol

~Nancyfly

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:09 am
by fireisredsir
enchant, if butterflies is maf, who are their partners?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:05 am
by butterflies
In post 745, fireisredsir wrote:enchant, if butterflies is maf, who are their partners?
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:08 am
by numberQ
Umlaut has been prodded.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:19 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 734, Enchant wrote:
In post 733, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 732, Enchant wrote:
In post 731, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 730, Enchant wrote:
In post 728, fireisredsir wrote:enchant, do you think butterflies is maf?
Yes, butter have clear scum motive to push anyone else, but me.
Surely you can’t
actually
believe this.
Explain?
Explain what?
You joking?
What didn’t you get about what I said? You said butterfly has scum motivation to push only you. It doesn’t make sense for scum!butterfly to push only you if you’re town. What is the motivation?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:25 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 743, butterflies wrote:In the last game I played on here, Pooky called out the entire scumteam and town lost because they didn’t listen to him. Well, I’m channeling Pooky in this game with my solve of furtive/Enchant/Umlaut. Don’t make the mistake town did in that game did by ignoring Pooky’s solve after he died. Don’t let any of them endgame and don’t ignore our reads after we’re dead.

~Nancyfly
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