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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:32 am
by Aristeia
In post 711, skitter30 wrote: In post 709, Aristeia wrote:I don't understand how you can have no idea what Prism is doing yet maintain a townread on her.
I mean i dont understand this bit, but i dont think she gets tilted for that reason during her argument with u as scum
so you have never seen her fake tilt as scum
but you are townreading her off her tilt
amazing
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:35 am
by Aristeia
In post 718, Prism wrote:I wound up bedridden with a migraine, and I'm not going to say it is Aristeia's fault, but I am saying I see no reason it
isn't
her fault.
Kind of sorry for tilt a whirl earlier. kinda not. I know I can be vicious in my critique. Simultaneously I think some of it is deserved. Fullclaim was stupid but most people probably assumed it anyway so w/e.
I have other thoughts but I'm just going to chew for awhile. I'm miserable as shit but know that eventually my pendulum swings back and I enter my Ebling Mis phase. Fine leaving my vote on skitter right now, want to wait it out but flip isn't imminent.
her read of prism has reached "not aligned" levels of terrible
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:35 am
by skitter30
No, i've never seen her play scum.
But when i saw it it seemed like a townie reason to get tilted, and explained her behavior in a way that made sense
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:36 am
by Prism
I fake tilt when it is to my advantage or when I think a specific player will townread it (eg. Firebringer, arguably skitter)
It was almost completely to my disadvantage, you weren't pushing me and explicitly gave me the OK to do whatever I wanted you wombat
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:36 am
by skitter30
Ok so maybe i shouldn't be townreading u for that then
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:37 am
by Aristeia
Prism is probably the scariest scum player on the site.
She makes catboi look like a house cat.
and your read on her is "townread" for "getting tilted" when you haven't even read a game of scum!her faking tilt as a defensive technique
absolutely malding.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:38 am
by Aristeia
btw that game she linked earlier where I misplayed vs scum!her is an example of her using tilt in a game in case you want to compare what it looks like.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:42 am
by VP Baltar
Ari, how long do you think it will take you to get a dayplay read on Prism?
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:42 am
by skitter30
Ok, good to know
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:42 am
by Aristeia
In post 728, Prism wrote:I fake tilt when it is to my advantage or when I think a specific player will townread it (eg. Firebringer, arguably skitter)
It was almost completely to my disadvantage, you weren't pushing me and explicitly gave me the OK to do whatever I wanted you wombat
if you are mafia ascetic I imagine that you're probably actually tilted that this setup has a novice mailman in it.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:47 am
by Aristeia
In post 732, VP Baltar wrote:Ari, how long do you think it will take you to get a dayplay read on Prism?
I am scumreading her dayplay.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:47 am
by VP Baltar
In post 593, skitter30 wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=82512
He's talking abt this one. I would again like to point out that its different from whatever he thinks i'm doing to you here, in that that one my partner was hevily under fire, so i just bussed hard (maybe after coming back from vla idk)
And this one if i'm partners with u i'd have just decided to randomly start bussing you as my first oush of the game, which i wouldnt do ...
ok, I skimmed this game with you and nomnomnom ISO (along with the vote counts). Definitely doesn't look like the same circumstances as this game. The bus comes much later in the game. I suppose one could make the argument it looks slightly unnecessary there, but I'm not going to spend the time to read the full context to see if that's true or not. I'm just looking at the vote counts and where nomnom was when you started the more aggressive bussing.
It's kind of funny how much you two are talking to each other all game though.
Anyhow! I don't think Datisi's point is really accurate here.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:48 am
by VP Baltar
what's the bullet point then? Idgi.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:49 am
by Prism
I'm content to let postgame solve this.
There was zero benefit to that spat as scum and my progression would have been absolutely fucking nonsensical. Townlean when initially 1v1ing -> scumlean when you make it clear you won't vote me for mech -> death tunnel attempt to force a gladiate -> back to town, all while everyone else actively hates the convo. The chance of you going through as an elim was zero and if my goal is to be a powerless voice I don't swing back and just AFK tunnel.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:51 am
by Prism
I am again fine getting flipped. We can give me an attempt when I feel up to it but I am not actively having fun, am not widely townread, and will always have the mechanical specter over me.
Maybe Aristeia can carry my underwhelming and garbage townplay.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:55 am
by skitter30
Ngl i do still kinda think prism's half was townie >.>
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:55 am
by Aristeia
It's not something I can type out over mobile. I'll probably put all my thoughts down later tonight when I have time.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:59 am
by Prism
Can't wait, bubbling over with excitement.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:04 pm
by Dwlee99
I don't think I've seen Prism!town yet but this reads in the same way their D&C tilt was but idk if they tilt different as different alignments
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:06 pm
by Dwlee99
I'm also thinking over the possibility of town ascetic vs mafia ascetic here and hmmm
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:06 pm
by Prism
D&C tilt was first specifically to get townread by Firebringer, who had just seen it as town in Holiday Dance. The second was against Dunnstral, who saw similar meltdowns as town against MathBlade.
They were targeted and strategic.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:07 pm
by skitter30
I am learning all sorts of things today
Also: does anyone have a read on dwlee?
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:08 pm
by Dwlee99
I imagine that you do tilting as either alignment and your scum tilt is specifically meant to resemble your town tilt
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:10 pm
by Prism
It's almost like you should figure out if my spat with Aristeia was supposed to serve any real purpose as scum as a means to gauge it.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:11 pm
by Dwlee99
Okay but now you're getting tilted at me