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You're not really demonstrating that "hamness" against prism rn. It's not that I think you're bad it's just I'm clearly aimed to push you to win my game if I'm scum so why would I just go out of that and then force myself to deal with RH9 (who scumreads me but I wasn't pushing) and STD?

I'm going to raise the question of "Does marcistar assert I am obvscum here even in a world where she is town?", not just pointing to zero and having no emotion behind it until I point out her lack thereof

but just

On another note my laptop is on its final one/two days of operation, we'll see if I can manage to squeeze a bit more life out of it but it is not looking good. Expect my content to drop off a cliff.

10 days on the deadline is plenty but shrug, it feels like not much is happening. I could keep grilling various people but shrug, there's barely any autopsy attempts on what happened with Sillyposting. The back/forth with marci from RH9 and Dwlee99 is good but the pace is just incredibly slow and it's hard to picture any SGB players actually feeling pressured right now.

I know she didn't really want to in 702 but I think Meuh should throw her weight around more.

Will properly catch up and poke around at some point in not too long (might not be tonight)

In post 724, marcistar wrote:

In post 720, RH9 wrote:Firstly, Faker isn't exactly obvscum because the rest of us lack the extra insight that you have. We only know that between you and her, there's one moderator and one hacker.

fakers obv scum to me, and thats what makes it boring, when i already know part of the answer >.<
isnt she obviously buddying u? i feel like its v obv to me that thats what shes been doing.

Again, it isn't obvious that she's buddying me.
I have no idea of scum!Faker so there's no way for me to tell her intentions.

In post 724, marcistar wrote:

In post 720, RH9 wrote:Secondly, my comments were in response to Faker's posts. Not only that, these rereads are good help for my reads on my minigame. It helps me develop my reads.

i dont see you trying to tie it back to any surviving players.

Well.
To be honest with you, I haven't.
However, I hope to achieve this soon.

There's also just very little point to buddying a town RH9 all the way over in SGB. If my gameplan is to buddy and exploit RH9, I just keep RH9 in MD and clear him. Instead I rolled the dice that Meuh doesn't spiritually connect with her friend for some tonal/meta reason that I will have no clue how to dislodge.

The current plan is also to flip MD first, so even if I'm trying to steer RH9 away from scumreading my partner in SGB, it all goes out the window when my alignment gets confirmed before any SGB votes happen. There's literally zero point in buddying anyone in that minigame, the only person I have to convince is Meuh.

Uhhhh

Was something about that post concerning to you?

In post 730, Faker wrote:There's also just very little point to buddying a town RH9 all the way over in SGB. If my gameplan is to buddy and exploit RH9, I just keep RH9 in MD and clear him. Instead I rolled the dice that Meuh doesn't spiritually connect with her friend for some tonal/meta reason that I will have no clue how to dislodge.

hmm.

Guess what's concerning about it

I see no issue with the statement. Players sometimes get concerned about how readily I speak about a scum-Faker world as though it were interchangeable with the real one, ex. "I rolled the dice" instead of a more qualified "As scum I would hypothetically have thrown the dice".

If you think that's an issue, that's on you. After 12 years you really stop caring to qualify everything with "but I'm town"

Fair, I won't ever get a bit freaked out by that, though.

Like I said before games were assigned, I think MD works against a lot of my strengths for that reason. I don't have that firm "I'm town!" self-righteous indignation, without a concrete difference in outcome to work towards, the color of the PM is completely arbitrary and doesn't matter. I'm completely lacking in the sincerity or naivete that a lot of people decide 1v1s with, it's just another random Tuesday. The degree to where I am validated just in color of my role PM is that if I get frustrated with a terrible argument I can say "Okay, we'll see the answer postgame" and call it there.

There are two things in my mind that make my role PM not arbitrary. First is that marcistar is not nearly so comfortable and uniform as scum as I am, and that can be exploited. Second, there is a concrete difference in outcome to pursue in Sillyposting/SGB. I'm not a moron and know I have to appear to solve those games as scum, but there is a difference in actually solving them and pretending to.

For an example of what I mean with the "First is that marcistar is not nearly so comfortable..." point is that she claimed earlier that she can be LHF, that I'm trying to get an easy win by going against her, etc. I think she believes this of herself in general, so I'm happy to roll with her hypothetically saying it as town.

From a town-marci perspective, though, is Faker-scum just so obvious and no one but marci-town can see it, or would I be intimidating with how much force and control I've had, and an obstacle that is going to be hard for herself and the town to overcome?

It's egotistical for me to say I'd expect the second from her, but I do.

In post 730, Faker wrote: The current plan is also to flip MD first, so even if I'm trying to steer RH9 away from scumreading my partner in SGB, it all goes out the window when my alignment gets confirmed before any SGB votes happen. There's literally zero point in buddying anyone in that minigame, the only person I have to convince is Meuh.

That's so true.
Any attempt you and marci try to make to sway anybody in SGB, the more interactions we have to use after you flip.
This makes any swaying attempts awkward especially since it could backfire.

In post 725, Dwlee99 wrote:You're not really demonstrating that "hamness" against prism rn. It's not that I think you're bad it's just I'm clearly aimed to push you to win my game if I'm scum so why would I just go out of that and then force myself to deal with RH9 (who scumreads me but I wasn't pushing) and STD?

I think maybe they could be players you would think you could take on/convince.

In post 729, RH9 wrote:Again, it isn't obvious that she's buddying me.
I have no idea of scum!Faker so there's no way for me to tell her intentions.

really? its obvious to me that shes trying to buddy you,
ever since sillyposting ended, shes been focusing mainly on interacting with you, and making sure you feel like your thoughts are heard, while shooting down anything that be a valid thoughtprocess. thats pretty buddying behavior IMO. I can get examples if you still dont believe me but theres alot of them :shrug:

In post 729, RH9 wrote:

In post 724, marcistar wrote:

In post 720, RH9 wrote:Secondly, my comments were in response to Faker's posts. Not only that, these rereads are good help for my reads on my minigame. It helps me develop my reads.

i dont see you trying to tie it back to any surviving players.

Well.
To be honest with you, I haven't.
However, I hope to achieve this soon.

In post 730, Faker wrote:There's also just very little point to buddying a town RH9 all the way over in SGB. If my gameplan is to buddy and exploit RH9, I just keep RH9 in MD and clear him. Instead I rolled the dice that Meuh doesn't spiritually connect with her friend for some tonal/meta reason that I will have no clue how to dislodge.

The current plan is also to flip MD first, so even if I'm trying to steer RH9 away from scumreading my partner in SGB, it all goes out the window when my alignment gets confirmed before any SGB votes happen. There's literally zero point in buddying anyone in that minigame, the only person I have to convince is Meuh.

Really? I feel like its a valid strategy for you to be setting up a buddying system thingy with rh9 incase you lose this minigame. It'll make him look worse after your flip, and help your partner in stop getting banned win that minigame.

In post 738, Faker wrote:From a town-marci perspective, though, is Faker-scum just so obvious and no one but marci-town can see it, or would I be intimidating with how much force and control I've had, and an obstacle that is going to be hard for herself and the town to overcome?

it cant be a bit of both because...?

In post 741, marcistar wrote:I think maybe they could be players you would think you could take on/convince.

If that was true why wouldn't I keep you in there and convince them to vote you lol

Marci is pretty obviously scum imo. It's not beyond Pooky to egg on town trying to kill his partner, he literally got his partner vigged before, and Marci's play is full of inconsistent reasonings with weirdly placed AtE

my mind is saying one thing but my gut is saying another

In post 741, marcistar wrote:really? its obvious to me that shes trying to buddy you,
ever since sillyposting ended, shes been focusing mainly on interacting with you, and making sure you feel like your thoughts are heard, while shooting down anything that might be a valid thoughtprocess. thats pretty buddying behavior IMO. I can get examples if you still dont believe me but theres alot of them :shrug:

Good idea, actually.
Could you please find. examples of Faker buddying?
I probably missed them all.

I still don't anticipate being around tonight or tomorrow and think Meuh should throw her weight around more.

I'll let whatever quotes she pulls speak for themselves but if getting thoughts from you and giving feedback on your thought processes is the charge, sure I'm guilty. At some point I would like to convert this to a read. I've also been eager to get more out of Dragons so lol @ it being solely you.

Faker, is this directed at me?

I'd like to hear more from meuh as well

Properly reading the stuff I missed, sorry I was busy eating dried cranberries. (Solid snack! I recommend it)