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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:18 am
by Fuchs~
Well that sidetracks the discussion from where I was going, but this is definitely more actionable lol
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:19 am
by Nauls~
Niceeee
Actually now that you mention it, vigi is relatively good since it means we can successfully resolve a 50/50 without things being able to assimilate
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:20 am
by Fuchs~
One thing that I was thinking about during the night was the fact that since no one flips the PR role on death, that it might be beneficial for invests to reveal their information directly instead of trying to leave softs on their results (since we won't have a flip to use then decode the meaning of the softs).
And here we are with an invest claim out the gate lol
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:20 am
by MacReady~
Sweet that's where i was going to start today
VOTE: windows
Lars dying looks like an assimilation to me, so I think we need to keep an eye out for that
I am also acknowledging to the relevant parties that I have received a message overnight
Childs has some explaining to do.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:21 am
by Palmer~
Even though I think it's unlikely, I do want to confirm first that Childs hasn't been turned into one of them. And also for them to confirm that they are actually capable of shooting tonight, because it would be a tragedy if a scum assimilated away from the guilty.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:22 am
by Fuchs~
In post 726, Nauls~ wrote:Niceeee
Actually now that you mention it, vigi is relatively good since it means we can successfully resolve a 50/50 without things being able to assimilate
Trueeee
I was kind of sitting here wondering about whether palmer would fake a guilty planning to body swap tonight, but with the vig out there, they can just shoot them if windows flips town.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:22 am
by Palmer~
In post 727, Fuchs~ wrote:One thing that I was thinking about during the night was the fact that since no one flips the PR role on death, that it might be beneficial for invests to reveal their information directly instead of trying to leave softs on their results (since we won't have a flip to use then decode the meaning of the softs).
And here we are with an invest claim out the gate lol
I did think about that at the start of the game. Another thing is that, if I try to just soft my results, they might not even be correct anymore by the time I die. So yeah.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:22 am
by Nauls~
I feel like scum!Childs assimilates last night, seems in line with Childs' confidence + the claim they were getting killed.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:22 am
by MacReady~
In my mind, the entirety of Clarke's demise points to scum being fairly low-influence - they weren't able to divert the wagon away
Lars fits pretty neatly into that profile
I'm not sure how we'll find them though
I think that Childs should hopefully be easy to identify as themselves
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:23 am
by Palmer~
In post 730, Fuchs~ wrote: In post 726, Nauls~ wrote:Niceeee
Actually now that you mention it, vigi is relatively good since it means we can successfully resolve a 50/50 without things being able to assimilate
Trueeee
I was kind of sitting here wondering about whether palmer would fake a guilty planning to body swap tonight, but with the vig out there, they can just shoot them if windows flips town.
...I forgot that is also a thing that can be done. Why did my mind go to "eliminate me first, shoot windows if green" instead the other way around.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:24 am
by MacReady~
In post 732, Nauls~ wrote:I feel like scum!Childs assimilates last night, seems in line with Childs' confidence + the claim they were getting killed.
Wouldnt Childs be the body we see today in that case?
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:24 am
by Fuchs~
Yeah, seems prudent that Childs reveals if their shot is gated
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:25 am
by Nauls~
In post 735, MacReady~ wrote: In post 732, Nauls~ wrote:I feel like scum!Childs assimilates last night, seems in line with Childs' confidence + the claim they were getting killed.
Wouldnt Childs be the body we see today in that case?
Yeah, I'm saying a Lars flip makes scum!Childs less likely
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:25 am
by MacReady~
In post 729, Palmer~ wrote:And also for them to confirm that they are actually capable of shooting tonight,
Wouldn't aa newly-scum Childs say they were able to do this regardless?
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:26 am
by Palmer~
In post 733, MacReady~ wrote:In my mind, the entirety of Clarke's demise points to scum being fairly low-influence - they weren't able to divert the wagon away
I thought the conversation at the end of Day with me was townie, and the vote in
395 seemed unlikely to be a bus when there were multiple wagon choices present.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:27 am
by Palmer~
In post 738, MacReady~ wrote: In post 729, Palmer~ wrote:And also for them to confirm that they are actually capable of shooting tonight,
Wouldn't aa newly-scum Childs say they were able to do this regardless?
Well, due to Childs' distinct posting style on Day 1, I am assuming we'll be able to recognize if they're newly-scum.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:27 am
by Fuchs~
I was also town reading Lars. He did not seem like a slot that would need to slot abandon, and if he was scum could have just... stayed Lars.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:28 am
by MacReady~
Town-Lars is a very odd kill to make last night
Pedit yeah I think the same. We should be able to tell if Childs got assimilated
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:30 am
by Palmer~
In post 741, Fuchs~ wrote:I was also town reading Lars. He did not seem like a slot that would need to slot abandon, and if he was scum could have just... stayed Lars.
One thought I had was that scum-Lars could've been a better-looking scum slot of the two remaining. But considering Windows is one of them... doesn't feel likely.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:34 am
by Fuchs~
In post 724, Palmer~ wrote:
Which is also why I reacted this way to petapan's explanation.
If we believe Childs to be a novice vigilante and to still be human, I am not entirely opposed to burning me today, and then Windows being shot once I flip town.
I haven't yet processed Lars's death or the fact that Childs is still alive, though. On my reread during the Night, I wasn't feeling like Lars is scum.
huh, that is kind of wild.
If you invested a townie on the same night that scum assimilated it, you would have an inno result on a scum slot the following day.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:44 am
by Nauls~
In post 743, Palmer~ wrote: In post 741, Fuchs~ wrote:I was also town reading Lars. He did not seem like a slot that would need to slot abandon, and if he was scum could have just... stayed Lars.
One thought I had was that scum-Lars could've been a better-looking scum slot of the two remaining. But considering Windows is one of them... doesn't feel likely.
Maybe “ability to convincingly look like someone else” is a bigger criteria than “escaping a bad slot” for the scum team?
Like Lars is heroically saving the scum team by assimilating into a better swap, because Windows doesn’t think they can do it.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:47 am
by Blair~
I don't trust palmer tbh
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:50 am
by Nauls~
For Palmer to be scum, Childs would have to be currently scum too, right? Otherwise a 50/50 is a nonsensical play for them to make, a vigi shot ruins it.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:51 am
by Blair~
faking a guilty is one of those things i would love to do in this game because you can always abandon your slot after the fact. I also felt kind of susp of Palmer on day one to begin with - I think there is a good chance the convo between Palmer and Clark at beginning of day was badly done scum theatre
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:51 am
by Blair~
In post 747, Nauls~ wrote:
For Palmer to be scum, Childs would have to be currently scum too, right? Otherwise a 50/50 is a nonsensical play for them to make, a vigi shot ruins it.
true that makes sense