Mini 693 - Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Mafia (OVER)

[malthusis]

You guys do realize we have only 3 days left till deadline?

[iLord]

You guys do realize we have only 3 days left till deadline?

Yeah, and you're the only person that we seem to be able to get a majority on.

I support a Malt lynch over no lynch.

No one agrees with me on raider.

[iLord]

Unvote, Vote Malthusis

Malt, if you don't unvote, we'll have to no lynch. Please unvote Nat.

[andersonw]

If I had investigated someone, I did not get a guilty result.

@iLord: So you think malthusis is scum?

Could you elaborate on what you are trying to say here? I'm a little confused.

My question was:
I would be surprised if Zelda was still Zelda in the future, because the flavor goes strongly against that. Therefore, if someone claimed Shiek, wouldn't there still be a possibility of that person telling the truth?

[andersonw]

Some more stuff:

Andwersonw, I still want you to claim. But I'm only one player. I want to know what the others will say about this as I think the claims might help us. I will go into this if the decision will be that you claim.

Could you now explain why you think the claims should help?

and iLord, you never made that ZazieR case, what happened to that?

[iLord]

I would be surprised if Zelda was still Zelda in the future, because the flavor goes strongly against that. Therefore, if someone claimed Shiek, wouldn't there still be a possibility of that person telling the truth?

I don't think it works that way - Zelda was still Zelda in the future, she just diguised herself at Sheik for apparently a good portion of it. However, Sheik is only a disguise of Zelda, so I don't see how it can be it's own character.

@iLord: So you think malthusis is scum?

Not really, he's third on my list [raider, Zazie, and then Malt].

and iLord, you never made that ZazieR case, what happened to that?

Lack of time - I've been really busy and I can't even recall what I suspected her for. I just remembered that during a brief scan reread, I found Zazie the scummiest, followed by Malt. After the 25th, I'll have some more time to look closer.

[iLord]

Of course, I probably won't be alive by then .

[Tarhalindur]

"From now on, the future of all the people in Hyrule is on your shoulders. Maybe it's not my time anymore. Here is my last advice. Two witches inhabit this temple. In order to destroy them, turn their own magic power against them. Hoo hoot!" -

that damn owl

Keapora Gaebora

Better. - Tar

The Forty-Third Vote Count (aka the "Down, A, Down, Down, A, Down, A, A" Vote Count):

Vote Count:

andersonw (0)
ZazieR (rep. letsbefriends) (0)
Natirasha (2) - malthusis
malthusis (2) - Natirasha, iLord
iLord (0)
raider8169 (0)

Not Voting (3): andersonw, ZazieR, raider8169

Votes required to lynch: 4

FoS Count:

andersonw
ZazieR
Natirasha
malthusis (1) - ZazieR
iLord
raider8169

Current and Final Deadline:

December 17, 2008 at ~6:00 P.M. Central Standard Time (GMT -6)

[iLord]

@Tar: Is the above vote count correct?

Typo fairy says no. Fixed. - Tar

[ZazieR]

Malt, is Sheik mentioned in your PM or not?

Nat, can you tell me something more about your ability? How come you didn't use it when you could use it and what were the two very obvious reasons why you couldn't proxy iLord in the past?

Also if possible, could everyone give their opinion about my post 716? Especially the part about ZONEACE killing everyone.

I'll answer andersonw's question when I've got these answers.

[iLord]

Zazie, what is your opinion on who to lynch?

[malthusis]

Malt wrote:
You guys do realize we have only 3 days left till deadline?


Yeah, and you're the only person that we seem to be able to get a majority on.

I support a Malt lynch over no lynch.

andersonw wrote:
@iLord: So you think malthusis is scum?


Not really, he's third on my list [raider, Zazie, and then Malt].

If you thing Zazie is more scummy then I am, why aren't you pushing a lynch on her?

Malt, is Sheik mentioned in your PM or not?

No.

iLord, I won't just let myself be lynched and make town lose the game. As much as I think you are scum, I'll happily agree with Zaz lynch over no lynch.

Unvote, Vote Zazier

[iLord]

No.

iLord, I won't just let myself be lynched and make town lose the game. As much as I think you are scum, I'll happily agree with Zaz lynch over no lynch. Unvote, Vote Zazier

I'll go with Zazie lynch - I didn't think there was enough support, mostly because I haven't had time to make a case on her. I don't even remember my initial reasoning.

Unvote, Vote Zazie

I'm going to go reread if I can find time. I just find it slightly pointless to attempt to bring up any large cases with the deadline looming tommorrow and me most likely being dead by tommorrow.

Malt, could you explain why you think I'm scum?

[raider8169]

No.

iLord, I won't just let myself be lynched and make town lose the game. As much as I think you are scum, I'll happily agree with Zaz lynch over no lynch. Unvote, Vote Zazier

I'll go with Zazie lynch - I didn't think there was enough support, mostly because I haven't had time to make a case on her. I don't even remember my initial reasoning.

Unvote, Vote Zazie

I'm going to go reread if I can find time. I just find it slightly pointless to attempt to bring up any large cases with the deadline looming tommorrow and me most likely being dead by tommorrow.

Malt, could you explain why you think I'm scum?

Vote ilord

You have jumped to 3 different people and yet none of which has had any reason. If you felt someone was more scummy you would have voted them. You also would have made a case on someone instead of just saying they are scummy. You are just trying to get someone lynched not caring if they are scum or not. These are actions scum would do and I completely think you are scum.

[iLord]

[quote="raider']Vote ilord

You have jumped to 3 different people and yet none of which has had any reason. If you felt someone was more scummy you would have voted them. You also would have made a case on someone instead of just saying they are scummy. You are just trying to get someone lynched not caring if they are scum or not. These are actions scum would do and I completely think you are scum. [/quote]

Yep, I haven't had a reason. I just want someone lynched before the deadline - we do not want a no lynch.

I have said that I suspect you, Zazie, Malt. I've stated reasons for my suspicion of you, but no one has listened. I haven't listed reasons for Malt or Zazie yet, but if you read my last post, you would have seen that I don't really remember - and I don't really have the time or the will to look them up right now.

Those are not actions that will do. It's posts like these that make me think you are scum. Let me ask you this:

How likely is is that I am scum, considering my claim?

[iLord]

Ah, sorry for the messed up tags - I thought I fixed them too.

[iLord]

Posts of Interest (I'm rereading):

Could MafiaSSK possibly be Ganon?

Slapping suspicion on MSSK.

Commenting on the actions of other players is possible. I like to have more then just a few pages before I try looking for cases. People do make mistakes and I do not like to hang someone from one mistake. There are exceptions but I try to keep to that in general. Those asking for cases are trying to start a bandwagon and at this point those are easy to start and can be directed at most people in the game. Mislynches are all too easy at that point.

This goes against Open 91 play at least - raider was too busy being attacked in Eddy Izzard. More research later.

(p. 640)

@Zazier: Let's just say if I told you, you'd have a good idea of who I'd be.

Why would important make it obvious that you are Zelda?

I failed to see why coheed was just tossed up because of the deadline. I thought it was given he was town but because everyone jumped on the bandwagon because of the time factor I am not sure how much can be gained from it.

Trying to seem mad that townie was mislynched. Really townie would have not posted above because of understanding lynch > no lynch Day 1.

As no one else has counter claimed to be Link I think that is solid. My vote stands for the time being but how why would the mask of truth say you are scum?

Have you played in a Tar game before (not enough time to check)?

Zoneace, once the guilty came out there is more less enough reason to full claim if you are not able to explain why a guilty came out. I have never seen someone not get lynched when a guilty came out their way. If you would have claimed right away and then everyone could have talked and came to a decision before the votes were placed. Just my 2 cents.

Nothing about "full claim now if you're townie so that you can help the town." Scummy.

I do not think SP made a mistake. Why else would the mod feel the need to chime in and his mistake was not a mistake as it happened to be right. I think he knew what his partner was and said so in game before realizing that the mod put down the wrong role.

Vote SP

Mod chime in is weak justification - raider uses this a lot this game - weak, different points to jump on wagons.

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At post 507 - more later.

[Natirasha]

raider, your vote is wasted where it is. You are not helping the town in any way.

(iLord: Let's lynch raider tomorrow)

[iLord]

I'm probably not going to be alive to help you out .

[raider8169]

raider, your vote is wasted where it is. You are not helping the town in any way.

Deadline is the 17th, if no one adds their vote then I will reconsider before the deadline hits.

[iLord]

Deadline is the 17th, if no one adds their vote then I will reconsider before the deadline hits.

You haven't answered the points in my above case, or why you want me lynched despite my claim.

[raider8169]

You haven't answered the points in my above case, or why you want me lynched despite my claim.

Didnt have time, I will do that now though

This goes against Open 91 play at least - raider was too busy being attacked in Eddy Izzard. More research later.

What are you talking about? You just like to toss points out there and hope no one questions them.

Trying to seem mad that townie was mislynched. Really townie would have not posted above because of understanding lynch > no lynch Day 1.

Lynch is better then no lynch however, there was still a day before the deadline there was time. You just wanted to toss someone up to be lynched and didnt care if the person was scum or town. You are scum and just trying to mislynch. You jump on anything to try and force a lynch. That is very scummy.

[/quote]Have you played in a Tar game before (not enough time to check)?[/quote]

Dont think so, why should this matter though? This just leads to set up role speculation and I think it takes away from the game and makes it not as much fun.

Zoneace, once the guilty came out there is more less enough reason to full claim if you are not able to explain why a guilty came out. I have never seen someone not get lynched when a guilty came out their way. If you would have claimed right away and then everyone could have talked and came to a decision before the votes were placed. Just my 2 cents.

Nothing about "full claim now if you're townie so that you can help the town." Scummy.

Are you high or something? He was presumed guilty with the investigation its his job to prove to us he is innocent. The claim would start the process.

I do not think SP made a mistake. Why else would the mod feel the need to chime in and his mistake was not a mistake as it happened to be right. I think he knew what his partner was and said so in game before realizing that the mod put down the wrong role.

Vote SP

Mod chime in is weak justification - raider uses this a lot this game - weak, different points to jump on wagons.

Really? Now you are just lair. Show me where I have used mod chime a lot in this game.

Ilord I really hope others see how scummy you are.

[raider8169]

You haven't answered the points in my above case, or why you want me lynched despite my claim.

Your claim? We have no means to know if your claim is true or not. If you make up a good false claim then anything is possible. Of course if you are able to bring someone back its possible they will come back as scum or something like that. Nothing is set in stone.

[iLord]

What are you talking about? You just like to toss points out there and hope no one questions them.

Attacking status again.

You didn't have any problems with early opinions in Eddy Izzard.

Lynch is better then no lynch however, there was still a day before the deadline there was time. You just wanted to toss someone up to be lynched and didnt care if the person was scum or town. You are scum and just trying to mislynch. You jump on anything to try and force a lynch. That is very scummy.

Are you attacking me for this? Coheed was scummy - we lynched him. There was one day before the deadline - very unlikely that we were going to get someone else lynched.

Dont think so, why should this matter though? This just leads to set up role speculation and I think it takes away from the game and makes it not as much fun.

Tar always gives falseclaims.

Are you high or something? He was presumed guilty with the investigation its his job to prove to us he is innocent. The claim would start the process.

Now attacking me.

I was saying that you didn't tell ZONEACE to claim his role (like Zazie did) after he claimed town after being lynched.

Really? Now you are just lair. Show me where I have used mod chime a lot in this game.

Attacking me.

Misrepresenting me as well. I said you used poor points in general and not just mod chime. Plus, you didn't even defend your mod chime point - the implication of the above statement is that you conceded its weakness.

Ilord I really hope others see how scummy you are.

Once again, you ignored my claim. Good job, scum.

[iLord]

Your claim? We have no means to know if your claim is true or not. If you make up a good false claim then anything is possible. Of course if you are able to bring someone back its possible they will come back as scum or something like that. Nothing is set in stone.

If I am left alive, Pesco will come back with all of his abilities. It would be completely broken for scum to get a vig.

You do have a means to know whether or not its true. AFter I get nightkilled, or after Pesco comes back.

God, you're so scummy. Please can we lynch raider today?