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Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:15 pm
by Red Gyarados
Tbf
I'm voting CF more for AP's AtE than anything else
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:19 pm
by CarbonFiber
In post 7274, The Fox and the Hound wrote: In post 7273, DeasVail wrote:CF, if there was going to be enough support to lynch another townie today, then what's stopping that townie from being lynched in LYLO instead?
Nothing.
PEdit: well yeah, but I'm kind of like that too, so...
I'm so bad at this.
Because a lot of people find me scummy and it allows them a much needed reset. If we deadline lynch another townie or lurker lynch, then it'll be the same thing over again tomorrow. I played crappily. I look justifiably scummy. I can't even convince the one person who can read me really well that I am town for actual pro-town actions. The only thing I'm doing this game is getting on everybody's nerves. I just want out out of this game because I can't concentrate on anything else while it is going on. I want to play some other game, revise and reset and learn from mistakes here. I just don't feel like playing this game and lynching me now will give much needed info and resets that let town still have a shot at winning.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:21 pm
by CarbonFiber
Make up your mind DV. You are going to be annoying either way, aren't you? You don't believe I am town when I explained to you why; you won't believe that lynching me because I look scummy is a good idea either. Like the only thing you are doing is hedging.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:27 pm
by The Fox and the Hound
In post 7276, CarbonFiber wrote: In post 7274, The Fox and the Hound wrote: In post 7273, DeasVail wrote:CF, if there was going to be enough support to lynch another townie today, then what's stopping that townie from being lynched in LYLO instead?
Nothing.
PEdit: well yeah, but I'm kind of like that too, so...
I'm so bad at this.
Because a lot of people find me scummy and it allows them a much needed reset. If we deadline lynch another townie or lurker lynch, then it'll be the same thing over again tomorrow. I played crappily. I look justifiably scummy. I can't even convince the one person who can read me really well that I am town for actual pro-town actions. The only thing I'm doing this game is getting on everybody's nerves. I just want out out of this game because I can't concentrate on anything else while it is going on. I want to play some other game, revise and reset and learn from mistakes here. I just don't feel like playing this game and lynching me now will give much needed info and resets that let town still have a shot at winning.
I think you know deep down that resets don't really happen.
If you are town, I'd suggest detaching yourself from the game somewhat. You can stay in the game without needing to think about it all the time and get totally invested in it. If you are town, then I'd see this as favourable to getting yourself lynched.
In post 7277, CarbonFiber wrote:Make up your mind DV. You are going to be annoying either way, aren't you? You don't believe I am town when I explained to you why; you won't believe that lynching me because I look scummy is a good idea either. Like the only thing you are doing is hedging.
So you ask me to elaborate on why I think lynching you is not a good idea if you are town, and then because I'm continuing to talk about why that specific scenario is bad apparently I'm being annoying and hedging? What?
I think I've made it pretty clear that I'm not going to do what I did with Mastin and aggressively push a vote on someone even though I haven't actually thought about it properly nor read all of their posts. I'm sorry if that's annoying, but I don't see why I need to make a decision now right now.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:33 pm
by CarbonFiber
EVERYTHING THAT THE FOX AND THE HOUND POSTED IS FAKE AS HELL.
All of it is inflammatory bullshit that is trying to serve the scum agenda. All of their comments are positioning and discrediting. It is a whole load of absolute crap.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:33 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 6893, Titan wrote: In post 6889, AngryPidgeon wrote:
Ya. BRO sort of shuts down any conversation about his alignment before it happens and this is one of the things sort of lingering to justify doing it.
I dont think it was fake; that doesn't mean its necessarily from town though.
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what sucks about is day two, before anyone questioned it, voted them anything, one them came in and was if anyone thinks that was fake or votes us you're crazy...or something like that. I'd find the quote but grading and not thinking, but it twitched twitched twitched.
Also, the cognitive dissonance coming from that slot from pretty much the entire game is afuckingstounding if they're somehow town. Which, I'm sorry, I respect Bro's game just a little too much to think there's a snails chance in hell they're town at this point. (I might be exaggerating on how sure I am they're scum, but damn the mental hoops I have to do to call them town is pretty fantastic right now.)
Also, as far as the breakdown, nice little story, couple years ago I was mafia offsite and when pushed I had the motherloads of breakdowns. It was totally real (and way more believable than me saying I was crying when I actually was in Too Many Heads about something other than the game.) Only thing was I found out my grandfather died in the middle of the game. Breakdown? Totally fucking real. Didn't mean I was town.
So, yeah, I don't think it was fake, but I also don't think they're town.
In other news, I also changed my mind and think Nacho might be scum again. Oh ho ho though that's nothing new.
I really really really don't understand their read on you, to be fair. Townread on Falcon makes enough since because they've been in lockstep in the neighborhood for literally the entire game, but the only reason I remember for them calling you scum was that you brought up Too Many Heads where it didn't make sense or something stupid like that.
Re: Fakeability of the breakdown: I think BRO's breakdown was pretty game related, and not like an "real emotions venting into thread" type of breakdown, but I suppose I'll go back and read it again and point the read into something more concrete, since a good point that I've skimmed is that we've kind of lost accusing people of being scum for new reasons/actually reading the game.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:33 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 7279, CarbonFiber wrote:EVERYTHING THAT THE FOX AND THE HOUND POSTED IS FAKE AS HELL.
All of it is inflammatory bullshit that is trying to serve the scum agenda. All of their comments are positioning and discrediting. It is a whole load of absolute crap.
I think this is objectively wrong, considering this is DV you're talking about.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:34 pm
by Nachomamma8
Unless you're talking about something that isn't DV's last post?
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:35 pm
by CarbonFiber
I am talking about
Post 7243 which is the last in a long line of faked crap.
Also, please vote me, I won't consider it a scumclaim because it is pro-town. I really want to get on with my life/play other mafia games and that's not hapenning until I'm lynched.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:55 pm
by Red Gyarados
What the real fuck
Can we all just hard reset like right fucking now
Because I'm done with everyone complaining to vote them because they're done with this game.
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VOTE: Titan
HI TAMMY
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:05 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 7284, Red Gyarados wrote:What the real fuck
Can we all just hard reset like right fucking now
Because I'm done with everyone complaining to vote them because they're done with this game.
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VOTE: Titan
HI TAMMY
Please unvote Tammy.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:09 pm
by The Fox and the Hound
In post 7248, CarbonFiber wrote:BUT, I'd actually rather prefer I get lynched because if we lynch some other townie today, we lose for sure.
So, everyone please vote me in your next post.
Also, please realize that if we mislynch today and I get to LYLO, everyone will obviously vote me, so it is more strategic to lynch me today so town at least has a chance tomorrow. I don't want to be the auto-lynch in LYLO and I kinda want out anyways,
This is not "obviously" a thing that is happening and I don't understand why you are so convinced of any such thing.
In post 7249, CarbonFiber wrote:Fox is obvscum based on their last post. It is absolutely ridiculous. There is no way any of AP/Nacho/Fox are town in this game. The last scum has to be between Magenta, and Penguin although I am a little paranoid of PV.
How? Why? Who? When?
In post 7263, CarbonFiber wrote:
Why do you think that'll help?
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I'm not scumclaiming, I want you to vote me because I assessed the state of the town right now and realized that me getting lynched before LYLO gives us a better chance of a win.
What do you mean why do you think that will help. We are town. We can't respond to "OMG THIS IS SOOOO SCUM I'M WASTING WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE MY DYING BREATH ON THIS"
In post 7271, CarbonFiber wrote:DV, isn't it really obvious that if we lynch some other townie today, someone's going to vote me in LYLO? We as good as lost this game unless we lynch AP/Nacho and the way things are going, it probably won't be the case. Lynching me now will provide town with much needed resets while going into LYLO and eliminates a supposedly "scummy" player which overall has benefits. If you are town, please see the obvious. If you are scum, quit the act, it is annoying.
And now we could possibly be town again, ok, that makes so much sense! Why is this "obvious"? I just can't wrap my head around the fatalism. You are self-destructing. If you are town, please stop it.
In post 7277, CarbonFiber wrote:Make up your mind DV. You are going to be annoying either way, aren't you? You don't believe I am town when I explained to you why; you won't believe that lynching me because I look scummy is a good idea either. Like the only thing you are doing is hedging.
And now we're insulting DV? Why is is so imperative we have our minds made up instantly. You can't possibly believe confusion definitively translates to "will definitely vote you tomorrow".
In post 7279, CarbonFiber wrote:EVERYTHING THAT THE FOX AND THE HOUND POSTED IS FAKE AS HELL.
All of it is inflammatory bullshit that is trying to serve the scum agenda. All of their comments are positioning and discrediting. It is a whole load of absolute crap.
Are you faking shit again to try to get us to vote you? Why are you saying any of these things and refusing to back them up?
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:10 pm
by The Fox and the Hound
DV wrote:I'm going to fight against your lynch regardless of what Ceph thinks.
Not gonna be an issue.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:13 pm
by Red Gyarados
In post 7285, Nachomamma8 wrote: In post 7284, Red Gyarados wrote:What the real fuck
Can we all just hard reset like right fucking now
Because I'm done with everyone complaining to vote them because they're done with this game.
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VOTE: Titan
HI TAMMY
Please unvote Tammy.
Chainsawing your buddy already?
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:14 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 6914, Titan wrote:Falcon - if you are indeed town here, be comforted by this one thing. Upon seeing a reads list I posted on day four at westeros and laughing at how much it basically said here's the people I don't trust in this order, a player pretty much familiar with me said " if Tammy's alive past day three, she doesn't trust anyone."
There are very very few people I feel really equipped to read past this point, especially when all we've done is mislynch. You can get after me about it, but it's not going to change the shadows I jump at.
I feel like this is like a post it note sober Tammy would make for drunk Tammy in the morning.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:14 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 7288, Red Gyarados wrote: In post 7285, Nachomamma8 wrote: In post 7284, Red Gyarados wrote:What the real fuck
Can we all just hard reset like right fucking now
Because I'm done with everyone complaining to vote them because they're done with this game.
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VOTE: Titan
HI TAMMY
Please unvote Tammy.
Chainsawing your buddy already?
If you're not calling me town, you're not trying hard enough.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:22 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 6924, Titan wrote:I mean come on does anyone really believe even night tracker who doubles as a cop who just so happened to track ap to Stalin when katsuki claimed to block him?
I mean seriously, when there's already other investigative tropes out there?
Come on.
If they are both town, it doesn't make sense for JSU to play themselves in the lynch pool when they were solidly outside of it before.
If AP is scum, more reasonable, but it also doesn't make sense to tie scum in the best position to scum in the worst position: there has to be a scum buddy that would be much less likely to get lynched, wouldn't have to fake innocents, and would seriously call into question the insane amount of towncred JSU has.
It makes sense to me that BRO would investigate his friend who he feels is town and everyone else thinks is scum the first chance he got: I'd do the same in that position and I'm pretty sure most other people would as well.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:31 pm
by Red Gyarados
Play along with me for a bit nacho
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:34 pm
by Nachomamma8
If you want to troll someone else, sure, but I actually think I have better things to do with my time than trolling a frustrated Tammy who won't get back into the game proper unless she's given her space.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:35 pm
by Red Gyarados
I'm not trying to troll tammy
I'm doing a reset
all the way back to fucking rvs
Because I'm sick of people pulling the same fucking gambit
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:36 pm
by Nachomamma8
Notty, you know I love you, but...
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:37 pm
by Nachomamma8
Actually I just feel like I'm on "Notscience says the Darndest things"
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:38 pm
by Red Gyarados
It's to spare my sanity
Because I'll be honest
I'm dreading the readup of this game
Because everyone here is so depressed about this game and I don't want to end up in that same boat
pedit-
I do though
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:40 pm
by AngryPidgeon
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:42 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 6949, Titan wrote:
I have too!
My best one?
I made the most delicious of cases. Begged and pleaded with the town to get my lynch. Told the town that when I died because I was right they needed to heed my words. Got my lynch. He flipped town.
I spent the next three games paralyzed on lynching him when he was scum in case I was wrong. ^ that case is the beginning of my supreme waffling. I've never been the same.
But (*^&%^&$^%&^&*&*^*( Nacho.
YOU DO SOMETHING BECAUSE I DON'T TRUST YOU EITHER.
Black, dark, all alone..l