@mod can treestumped players still use their ability?
No.
Again minor evidence not TD because wagon neighbors
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:44 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Like, if you want to call me scum out of spite because I've offended you, that's you. I can't control you. Most people on MS do not vote me for that reason.
People vote me for other terrible reasons (mostly baseless paranoia) but I don't think that rage voting me is actually all that common.
I feel like the votecounts you're perusing objectively point to me being town, and I'm surprised you aren't voicing that thought.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:47 pm
by Titus
In post 7332, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like, if you want to call me scum out of spite because I've offended you, that's you. I can't control you. Most people on MS do not vote me for that reason.
People vote me for other terrible reasons (mostly baseless paranoia) but I don't think that rage voting me is actually all that common.
I feel like the votecounts you're perusing objectively point to me being town, and I'm surprised you aren't voicing that thought.
Bussing scum is a thing. Angry scum leading a bus against a trolling scum who spent time voting his teammates is a possibility.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:50 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Another thing I saw in my own defense while rereading the game: I scumread Creature most of the game, then second guessed that read when he was already put in the coalition by others.
If I was scum, I would know that Creature eventually -has- to go down and I might as well get as much towncred from his flip as possible.
I don't think there's any reason for me to potentially get scumread for not correctly reading Creature when I already had been calling him scum before the coalition and the coalition meant he had to die.
Bussing scum is a thing. Angry scum leading a bus against a trolling scum who spent time voting his teammates is a possibility.
If I were bussing I would have had my teammates bus. Why bus a teammate if I'm not going to have my teammates get towncred for it?
made sure my teammates were on the wagon, and more to the point made sure they were on the wagon in a way that gave them hefty towncred positioning wise.
what's the point of bussing a teammate if I'm not going to have my teammates get towncred for it? I'm not exactly the one who needs towncred.
Mod Notes:
Seeking replacement for Taly. Deadline is frozen until a replacement is found, and it will be reset to 48 hours.
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have been prodded.
Scumreading Creature?
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:53 pm
by Titus
In post 7336, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why doesn't that apply to me as well? I'm also on that same vote, shouldn't you be clearing me too?
Wagon position. TD is later.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:53 pm
by RadiantCowbells
And this, by the way, is the point that I'm trying to make.
You are not judging me by the same standards that you hold other players to.
You see something that you should townread me for, and you brush it off because of your personal feelings about me making you not want me to be scum.
If you think that 0K is scum, that's one thing, but either I'm cleared or TD isn't and you should think for a while about which one it is.
Scumreading Creature?
I wanted a different lynch. I led a lynch on scum D1. I can't be perfect 100% of the time.
Wagon position. TD is later.
Nah that's some bullshit. If you want to arbitrarily call me scum then you can freely do so but don't say stuff like that.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:55 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Like, when someone that you don't like or are mad at posts something that you would normally townread you ignore it because that's the way you play mafia.
When someone goes out of their way to get into your good books (as TD did in this game, incidentally, by being the only one treating you as a leader by being conftown) you locktown them.
I've led you like the pied piper in 15 past games as scum. It's not enjoyable for me to watch you do the same thing over and over and over again.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:56 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Anyway.
I just wanted you to lock in your scumread on me so that you can't backtrack on it after the game is over.
I feel like we really need to talk about your approach to mafia.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:57 pm
by RadiantCowbells
If we make it to tomorrow with 0k then I'm just gonna do call a friend and if you don't trust whoever you call when they say that I'm town then that's your business.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:58 pm
by Titus
TD is cleared but you aren't. That doesn't mean I lock scumread you. I am trying to process.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:59 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I don't think it matters. in the end you'll gravitate to whoever pushes your buttons and that's not going to be me this game if we're both alive.
But hey, if TD is scum at least they're forced to kill you so I won't have to deal with that.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:03 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Like I realize you're going to say that you're reading people objectively, and I agree that you probably think you are!
But on the other hand, I predicted in advance that you'd end up locktowning TD because I know how you treat players based on their behaviour towards you and pre-empted the pairing that I chose.
So regardless of how it feels to you, you must realize that it's a problem that your reads are extremely predictable, particularly given that I as scum have told you the same thing many times.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:05 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I can even tell you in advance, when I roll scum against you I am gonna kiss up to you and you're gonna townread me.
I've already preemptively told you this, but it's still going to work and you're not even going to consider this on a rational level because for all your claims of being a rational player you are emotions first all of the time.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:05 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I dunno.
Usually I have to like vary my approach to people as scum, hit different buttons, push different angles, whatever.
With you I would be telling you in one scum game how I pocketed you, then I would do the same thing and you'd townread me for it again.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:07 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I'm not trying to be mean here. I'm past being upset or annoyed. This is just the way things are, from my point of view.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:11 pm
by RadiantCowbells
And you can call it pride, I guess. I don't mind kissing ass as scum if it's gonna get me to the finish line and I get the last laugh in the end.
But come on. it's been how many years. you're going in circles.