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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:02 pm
by Reiuji Utsuho
Something that might be easy for you might be hard for him. Who knows? Assuming self playstyle to be equal to others is not a good method in general anyway.
Because I think so? Like, this part is literally "disagree if you must, but I think this."
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:03 pm
by Enter
In post 7375, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:
Something that might be easy for you might be hard for him. Who knows? Assuming self playstyle to be equal to others is not a good method in general anyway.
Because I think so? Like, this part is literally "disagree if you must, but I think this."
The change in personality doesn't make snark difficult to fake. If you can snark as town, why would it be difficult to snark as scum? O_O
Alright. But I can't work with "I just think so."
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:03 pm
by Enter
Your first point makes no sense.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:03 pm
by Liger_Zero
In post 7369, Formerfish wrote: In post 7363, Liger_Zero wrote:@Enter I think you need to like talk to someone bud, and maybe take a solid break from this game my dude.
Stop attempting to gas light him. He isnt even being out of control when hes talking about any of this. He is calmly stating his opinion, you are the one engaging in histrionics.
Ummmm….why didn't you answer my previous post about your reasoning? WHy did you insert yourself into this "histrionics"?
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:05 pm
by Reiuji Utsuho
In post 7376, Enter wrote:The change in personality doesn't make snark difficult to fake. If you can snark as town, why would it be difficult to snark as scum? O_O
For an example, one can easily hyperpost naturally as town and yet can not do that as scum without looking forced.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:05 pm
by Liger_Zero
Did anyone else just notice what Formerfish did? Cause that looks like fanning the flames while ignoring discussing reads.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:06 pm
by Reiuji Utsuho
That was intended.
I don't want to get into argument with my townread. It builds needless frustration for me.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:06 pm
by Liger_Zero
Last post I am talking directly to Formerfish:
In post 7343, Liger_Zero wrote: In post 7342, Formerfish wrote: In post 7339, Liger_Zero wrote: In post 7337, Formerfish wrote:Its crazy that you wont listen to me and lynch where I want you to now because you cant get out of your own head space, but when im dead tomorrow you are going to steamroll my scumpects?
I don't townread you. And the posts you make are hard to follow as far as reasoning goes as being real reasons people form reads. And tbh I would have voted you much earlier but i had a few problems that i am not gonna discuss with that.
I am more of looking for you to clear some players here if you are scum.
We are playing a mountainous game where we havent had any night kills yet, how are you forming your reads? I am looking for logical inconsistencies and am using peoples reads of me as a spring board for those avenues of investigation. In a game like this the only thing we each know is our own alignment if we are town. We need to use that to look for agendas from players where pushes feel forced. This game is hard and stupid and im stupid.
Logical inconsistencies don't mean much. And if anything I think that would be something a scum player would care more about but I think this is just some philosophy thing.
I am looking for a genuine sorting effort by players and reactions I consider to be normal behavior by someone of my own alignment. I see none of that with you. I don't even get the opposite. So far you have been....an anomaly? I don't know your head space.
Like we could go into your reasoning on Or for instance. Or you could talk about why my reasoning behind Or being town is bad. The problem I have is your reasoning is at best superficial and at worst so easy to fabricate on Or.
Then a page later during this Enter thing he goes here:
In post 7369, Formerfish wrote: In post 7363, Liger_Zero wrote:@Enter I think you need to like talk to someone bud, and maybe take a solid break from this game my dude.
Stop attempting to gas light him. He isnt even being out of control when hes talking about any of this. He is calmly stating his opinion, you are the one engaging in histrionics.
What is he doing? Cause this looks like avoidance to me.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:07 pm
by Enter
In post 7379, Reiuji Utsuho wrote: In post 7376, Enter wrote:The change in personality doesn't make snark difficult to fake. If you can snark as town, why would it be difficult to snark as scum? O_O
For an example, one can easily hyperpost naturally as town and yet can not do that as scum without looking forced.
Hyperposting is different, and to an extent I disagree with that point anyways.
In post 7380, Liger_Zero wrote:Did anyone else just notice what Formerfish did? Cause that looks like fanning the flames while ignoring discussing reads.
No, it doesn't.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:07 pm
by Reiuji Utsuho
I mean this is enough to lynch him really.
In post 7262, Formerfish wrote:
This wagon is scummy as fuck. This guy is scummy as fuck for this vote. Dann can get it as well with a side of scattered, topped and chunked hash browns.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:07 pm
by Dannflor
In post 7380, Liger_Zero wrote:Did anyone else just notice what Formerfish did? Cause that looks like fanning the flames while ignoring discussing reads.
It does
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:08 pm
by Dannflor
Fish is clearly trying to pocket you honestly
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:08 pm
by Enter
In post 7381, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:
That was intended.
I don't want to get into argument with my townread. It builds needless frustration for me.
Noted.
I disagree with you.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:08 pm
by Formerfish
In post 7378, Liger_Zero wrote: In post 7369, Formerfish wrote: In post 7363, Liger_Zero wrote:@Enter I think you need to like talk to someone bud, and maybe take a solid break from this game my dude.
Stop attempting to gas light him. He isnt even being out of control when hes talking about any of this. He is calmly stating his opinion, you are the one engaging in histrionics.
Ummmm….why didn't you answer my previous post about your reasoning? WHy did you insert yourself into this "histrionics"?
Why are you focused on or? I have laid out other cases on people who I think could be scum. I agree that my or read is superficial, which is why im not pushing that one as hard. If it were to be him or me I would vote for him obviously, but I think that other people, like i talked about with Dann, have higher scum equity.
And I inserted myself because I have been in his position with people like you winding him up and wished others would admit they see the shit behavior as well. Stop doing what you are doing with enter and either engage him in good faith arguements or just stop with the hyperbole.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:09 pm
by Dannflor
Enter
I'm gonna take a stand here and be a dick
I agree with Rei
Liger is town.
I do think he has played generally pro town and that it's just hard for you to see because it is surrounded by snark and yes needless antagonizing of you—yes that isn't very "pro town" but enter your personality clashes very easily with others at times, so I don't consider the fact you guys always pick fights with each other AI
I also... just really really feel it in my gut
And I want you to trust me
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:09 pm
by Enter
In post 7384, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:I mean this is enough to lynch him really.
In post 7262, Formerfish wrote:
This wagon is scummy as fuck. This guy is scummy as fuck for this vote. Dann can get it as well with a side of scattered, topped and chunked hash browns.
Why?
It doesn't
Liger is clearly trying to frustrate me
What is your point?
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:09 pm
by Reiuji Utsuho
Ok, then let's go back to the original discussion.
Can you put aside your hate and vote FF for me? :3
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:10 pm
by Enter
In post 7389, Dannflor wrote:Enter
I'm gonna take a stand here and be a dick
I agree with Rei
Liger is town.
I do think he has played generally pro town and that it's just hard for you to see because it is surrounded by snark and yes needless antagonizing of you—yes that isn't very "pro town" but enter your personality clashes very easily with others at times, so I don't consider the fact you guys always pick fights with each other AI
I also... just really really feel it in my gut
And I want you to trust me
What is pro town.
Please walk me through "pro town" play.
Engaging a single player on a topic that has barely any affect on game state for town cred is not pro town play.
You're not being a dick, you're just wrong.
FF doesnt survive from pocketing me here. It doesn't matter, I just come after him tomorrow if Liger flips town for some reason.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:11 pm
by Enter
In post 7391, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:Ok, then let's go back to the original discussion.
Can you put aside your hate and vote FF for me? :3
Sure.
after we lynch liger
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:11 pm
by Enter
Actually, I take that back.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:11 pm
by Enter
I'll vote FF w/ you, but we need to have a discussion first.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:11 pm
by Formerfish
In post 7378, Liger_Zero wrote: In post 7369, Formerfish wrote: In post 7363, Liger_Zero wrote:@Enter I think you need to like talk to someone bud, and maybe take a solid break from this game my dude.
Stop attempting to gas light him. He isnt even being out of control when hes talking about any of this. He is calmly stating his opinion, you are the one engaging in histrionics.
Ummmm….why didn't you answer my previous post about your reasoning? WHy did you insert yourself into this "histrionics"?
In post 7380, Liger_Zero wrote:Did anyone else just notice what Formerfish did? Cause that looks like fanning the flames while ignoring discussing reads.
In post 7382, Liger_Zero wrote:Last post I am talking directly to Formerfish:
In post 7343, Liger_Zero wrote: In post 7342, Formerfish wrote: In post 7339, Liger_Zero wrote: In post 7337, Formerfish wrote:Its crazy that you wont listen to me and lynch where I want you to now because you cant get out of your own head space, but when im dead tomorrow you are going to steamroll my scumpects?
I don't townread you. And the posts you make are hard to follow as far as reasoning goes as being real reasons people form reads. And tbh I would have voted you much earlier but i had a few problems that i am not gonna discuss with that.
I am more of looking for you to clear some players here if you are scum.
We are playing a mountainous game where we havent had any night kills yet, how are you forming your reads? I am looking for logical inconsistencies and am using peoples reads of me as a spring board for those avenues of investigation. In a game like this the only thing we each know is our own alignment if we are town. We need to use that to look for agendas from players where pushes feel forced. This game is hard and stupid and im stupid.
Logical inconsistencies don't mean much. And if anything I think that would be something a scum player would care more about but I think this is just some philosophy thing.
I am looking for a genuine sorting effort by players and reactions I consider to be normal behavior by someone of my own alignment. I see none of that with you. I don't even get the opposite. So far you have been....an anomaly? I don't know your head space.
Like we could go into your reasoning on Or for instance. Or you could talk about why my reasoning behind Or being town is bad. The problem I have is your reasoning is at best superficial and at worst so easy to fabricate on Or.
Then a page later during this Enter thing he goes here:
In post 7369, Formerfish wrote: In post 7363, Liger_Zero wrote:@Enter I think you need to like talk to someone bud, and maybe take a solid break from this game my dude.
Stop attempting to gas light him. He isnt even being out of control when hes talking about any of this. He is calmly stating his opinion, you are the one engaging in histrionics.
What is he doing? Cause this looks like avoidance to me.
i love how you ask a question and then post 2 more times about it before i can respond as if im actually doing the avoiding like youre accusing me of. How long did it take me to actually respond? A whole 5 minutes. Fuck me.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:12 pm
by Enter
Or rather, I might be willing to vote FF w/ you.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:12 pm
by Liger_Zero
Okay but why didn't you respond to it first?
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:13 pm
by Enter