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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:44 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 7397, Ydrasse wrote:oh yeah speaking of lobotomies this thread the first song on my discover weekly was called lobotomy and was great
If you get a chance, please link it for me, thanks.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:46 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 7398, Chara wrote:Ydrasse do you like this dragon
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or this dragon more
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I know you’re not asking me this but I prefer the second one.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:48 am
by Chara
your input is appreciated. in fact, everyone should tell me which one they like more.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:49 am
by Glory and Mel
In post 7384, Chara wrote:i do hate Ali's argument here, that e wouldn't be trying to look town as scum, but it almost sounds too obvious. does e really say something as backwards as "do you think i try to show i'm solving as scum" as scum? eir scumgame is fine.
read my recent games. I'm not as showy showy about my fakesolving when I'm scum and its a town trait for me.

What even is your impression of my scumgame because this comment is probably coming from someone who's expectations aren't aligned with reality.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:50 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 7402, Chara wrote:your input is appreciated. in fact, everyone should tell me which one they like more.
I really like the red/purple combo, it makes it really vibrant.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:54 am
by Chara
i do too!
i was informed i go for white and purple far too often. i suppose it's easy to make that look good.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:56 am
by Ydrasse
the first one speaks to me more... also i forgot flight rising exists but i’m gonna go look at my dragons to see if any of them were cute

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:56 am
by Ydrasse
In post 7400, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 7397, Ydrasse wrote:oh yeah speaking of lobotomies this thread the first song on my discover weekly was called lobotomy and was great
If you get a chance, please link it for me, thanks.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:58 am
by Ydrasse

this is the song stuck in my head today though

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:59 am
by Chara
In post 7403, Glory and Mel wrote:
In post 7384, Chara wrote:i do hate Ali's argument here, that e wouldn't be trying to look town as scum, but it almost sounds too obvious. does e really say something as backwards as "do you think i try to show i'm solving as scum" as scum? eir scumgame is fine.
read my recent games. I'm not as showy showy about my fakesolving when I'm scum and its a town trait for me.

What even is your impression of my scumgame because this comment is probably coming from someone who's expectations aren't aligned with reality.
i think it's more the self-meta angle i dislike, i don't have a concept of your current town vs. scumgames, but as scum you are still going to show your solving to a degree either way. it's easy to say "i'm doing it more than my recent scumgames" when you have been, but that doesn't say much about your alignment when you're aware of it and, i'd imagine, at least somewhat capable of faking aspects of your towngame, because that's needed to get anywhere as scum.

i don't scumread the comment, what i dislike is framing it as an obvious difference between your town and scumgames when realistically if that were the case all the time, your scum winrate would be shit/you wouldn't ever get miselimed as town.
i mean... perhaps that's true? i wouldn't know.

this feels kind of out of scope for this particular game, however.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:02 am
by Chara
In post 7406, Ydrasse wrote:the first one speaks to me more... also i forgot flight rising exists but i’m gonna go look at my dragons to see if any of them were cute
i like the dragon neopets. they bring me peace.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:02 am
by Ydrasse
apparently i have some neat dragons

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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:02 am
by Ydrasse
i don’t play this a lot because i prefer flat out neopets, i have a dragon neopet too though :>

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:04 am
by Chara
i had to stop playing Neopets because i found myself sacrificing sleep for restocking in the stamp shop.
i like the guardian in particular.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:06 am
by Ydrasse
oh my god are you okay? i always did the magical shop personally

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:07 am
by Glory and Mel
town!ali pushes my solving in your face
scum!ali decides "ok I think this person should die" and then votes that person and occasionally tries to kill them.

Its very different and it has nothing to do with my scumgame being "fine." My scumgame is "fine" because I understand the alignment, I know how to play to a crowd, and I know how to take control of a game. My scumgame was never about looking town.

Just because I'm self-aware of my meta doesn't mean I can fake it on the spot.
Like ya I can fake the surface level things and manipulate how people expect me to be as town. One Night Stand was basically me just doing that. But I can't fake the stuff that actually makes me town. I can't fake solving a game if I'm not trying to solve it and I already have all of the answers.
If you put One Night Stand right next to this game and tried to compare the two I'm sure you'll see some very different things.

But yes Chara, atm my scum winrate is shit and my towngame is very easy to identify.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:09 am
by Ydrasse
hey that’s my game

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:11 am
by Glory and Mel
Yes Ydra yes it is

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:16 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 7408, Ydrasse wrote:
this is the song stuck in my head today though
I actually like this one at lot more it reminds me a bit of Norah Jones.



Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:26 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 7411, Ydrasse wrote:apparently i have some neat dragons

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3/1/2 is my preference with these.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:32 am
by Flavor Leaf
not against the glory

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:33 am
by Flavor Leaf
think skitter most likely still

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:37 am
by Starcrossed
In post 7421, Flavor Leaf wrote:think skitter most likely still
good enough for me

VOTE: skitter

prepare for gloating

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:45 am
by Hopkirk
i can do either of these VOTE: Skitter30

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:53 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 7415, Glory and Mel wrote:town!ali pushes my solving in your face
scum!ali decides "ok I think this person should die" and then votes that person and occasionally tries to kill them.

Its very different and it has nothing to do with my scumgame being "fine." My scumgame is "fine" because I understand the alignment, I know how to play to a crowd, and I know how to take control of a game. My scumgame was never about looking town.

Just because I'm self-aware of my meta doesn't mean I can fake it on the spot.
Like ya I can fake the surface level things and manipulate how people expect me to be as town. One Night Stand was basically me just doing that. But I can't fake the stuff that actually makes me town. I can't fake solving a game if I'm not trying to solve it and I already have all of the answers.
If you put One Night Stand right next to this game and tried to compare the two I'm sure you'll see some very different things.

But yes Chara, atm my scum winrate is shit and my towngame is very easy to identify.
In post 167, Alisae wrote:
In post 157, Alisae wrote:
In post 155, Jesse Pierce wrote:
In post 153, Alisae wrote:Either way I can see how you would reach that conclusion (albeit wrong) so its fine you do you ig.
I haven't explained anything yet :wink:
I mean I can imagine why you as scum would want to scumread my slot
And I imagine how you as town could come to the conclusion to scumread my slot given if I tried to look at my own slot and try to see what it was doing. The reasons themselves may not be what you’re thinking exactly, but that doesn’t really matter.

Either way I don’t play proactively anymore. Recently I feel like I play at my best when I play reactively and try to read the gamestate as well as player positioning.
I’ll be like this for awhile until I feel comfortable playing my hand.
At least not as town. Honestly the game is more enjoyable for me that way because I get to let the other players around me play their parts and I get to solve the puzzle.

As scum I have a meta of being extremely proactive early to try to establish thread control and dominance, as I proceed to not care about looking town and use the fact I’m scum to try to dirty my hands to get as much done as possible. Its a meta I’m not sure if I should try to maintain due to the fact that my slot because so easy to read and most players who know me know that this is how I play the game as scum and basically it only works on players who don’t know how I play.
Tbf though, you said something very similar here. Anyway, thanks for linking that game. Pooky sounds identical here as in that game.