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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:46 am
by DeasVail
To be fair I think you were at risk of dying anyway. I was suspicious that you had a result on me and April.
This makes me think town has a LOT of power though. And so eyes gets some side-eye from me, but I’m not sure that would be the best place to go immediately.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:46 am
by DeasVail
I seriously couldn’t understand why you were so confident in us being town
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:50 am
by fireisredsir
yea i think i probably would have died, i got tired of coming up with reasons and was really lazy about my townread on you lol
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:52 am
by fireisredsir
i agree though, it is a lot of power. it's a little less if there's a traitor, and it would have been a lot less if hood+masons hadn't been outed d1 (shoutout to them for doing that and making my job easier), but it's still pretty strong, and that makes me concerned about multiple things
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:54 am
by MathBlade
In post 7473, fireisredsir wrote:ok fine i really wanted to greed for another result, but i probably die here tonight anyway. and if everyone else has the same poe as me then we can solve easier, everyone is getting distracted. plus (i only realized this recently, cause I'm DUMB) if we flip a scum here and there's a traitor my role will be useless
im a traffic analyzer. so i can check if people have private communications.
n1: save the dragons, does NOT have communications
n2: titus, HAS communications
n3: April ludgate, does NOT have communications
n4: deasvail, does NOT have communications
so the only way dragons/april/deas are maf is if they're traitors. or, technically it could be deas+titus as the only groupscum and then like 3 traitors but wtf is that setup. i think we shouldn't ever elim in that group of 3 and should just hunt the groupscum instead. that's why im only considering maf outside of that group.
UNVOTE: so we can discuss and so that people smarter than me can setup spec
No offense, I am not trusting this until you flip
We can still do Cape
Then if Cape flips red and you die then April is confirmed town.
I don’t buy the level of power here.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:56 am
by MathBlade
If you’re town you’ll have to be flipped by scum.
It’s much more likely it’s just Fire April Cape
Because if you were town Fire you’d be hella sus of eyes.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:56 am
by DeasVail
I think total 4 scum + traitor is likely.
PEdit: yeah sorry, I kind of wish that you didn’t need to investigate me but I understand why.
I’m still thinking about cape’s suspicion on me, which feels really forced and awkward honestly, but there could be bias there. I won’t be able to specifically respond to the points for another couple of hours, but things like suspecting my read progression on frogster seem super disingenuous considering that changes in reads happen (see: cape) and I’m obviously going to pay attention to the person who led a wagon on Titus.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:57 am
by fireisredsir
i am pretty sus of eyes but like deas said i don't think we necessarily have to go there first
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:57 am
by MathBlade
In post 7475, DeasVail wrote:To be fair I think you were at risk of dying anyway. I was suspicious that you had a result on me and April.
This makes me think town has a LOT of power though. And so eyes gets some side-eye from me, but I’m not sure that would be the best place to go immediately.
Neither is.
Scum solve the problem with NKs.
If I am wrong and Fire is town they die.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:58 am
by fireisredsir
i also have very poor setup knowledge hence why i want smarter people to tell me what i should think
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:59 am
by MathBlade
In post 7429, fireisredsir wrote: In post 7426, MathBlade wrote: In post 7423, fireisredsir wrote:for the resistance point, i think it could easily be frog+galron + someone who decided early that they wanted to bus
Are you the new April?
Start off agreeing then try to convince me otherwise?
Like what April did with Titus?
huh? im explaining my thought process for why i think frog scum is still viable. ive said all day that i want one of frog/cape/eyes, and after the eyes claim i slightly prefer frog or cape. im voting with you on cape, and if you want cape, i don't plan to change that
im just having a hard time getting over the fact that frog isn't even trying this day phase
Really? Eyes claims PR and you’re a PR and you’re less sus of eyes??
Really???
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:59 am
by MathBlade
In post 7484, fireisredsir wrote:i also have very poor setup knowledge hence why i want smarter people to tell me what i should think
I think you botched your fake claim but night kills will solve this
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:01 am
by fireisredsir
i wasn't planning to claim at that point so i have no valid reason to be sus of eyes in thread. if I'm just like "there's no way eyes is telling the truth!!" i think that makes it pretty obvious im PR lmao
my claim is pretty clearly supported by my posting this game, but you're right it will prob just be confirmed when I die tonight
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:03 am
by fireisredsir
i want to see how other people adjust their solves based on this info tho, which is why i think it was worth it to do it now
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:03 am
by MathBlade
In post 7487, fireisredsir wrote:i wasn't planning to claim at that point so i have no valid reason to be sus of eyes in thread. if I'm just like "there's no way eyes is telling the truth!!" i think that makes it pretty obvious im PR lmao
my claim is pretty clearly supported by my posting this game, but you're right it will prob just be confirmed when I die tonight
I am sorry I just can’t believe April is this bad and town
Let’s just flip Cape get results and see who dies
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:03 am
by tenebrousluminary
Oh. Okay. Well, Eyes is scum.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:04 am
by MathBlade
In post 7488, fireisredsir wrote:i want to see how other people adjust their solves based on this info tho, which is why i think it was worth it to do it now
To be fair I don’t trust it so I am not changing the solve.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:05 am
by tenebrousluminary
Seems like a role you'd put in if there was a traitor and/or hood scum.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:05 am
by fireisredsir
i also figured that i had made my results obvious enough that if i got NKd it was nbd bc people would figure them out, but i started to think that you would probably still think April was maf unless i explicitly stated my results lol
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:05 am
by Cape90
In post 7469, DeasVail wrote: In post 7465, Cape90 wrote:DeasVail is mafia, here are some of the reasons I think this.
1. Deas' world of Cape/Scorp is actually not good.
7339 honestly seems like this/Frogster is possible.
2.
7408 is literally just classic scum quote and nobody is biting. It's literally just a discredit. I feel really good about my Deas push right now.
3. Recent hedginess on Frogsterking. Look at
7281,
7339,
7021.
4. Recent posting has been considerably worse then before.
5. I kinda read this
6403 and even in here, like look at the bottom, it's like Deas is setting up for me being mafia here (specifically the last part after the comma), it's almost obvious to me. Also the Scorpius segment is honestly funny and underbaked, and now Scorpius is top scum with me.
6.
6391,
6372 is gross. Oh and apparently Deas doesn't care about the hood in
5949 so why even have the VPB hard suspicion anyway? Obviously they were scumreading VPB before, it's obv with posts like
4303/
4056.
7. Recent hedginess on Frogster contradicts
5706.
This post reads as if you decided you were going to scumread me and then went digging for reasons to justify it
you sure havent done better.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:06 am
by MathBlade
Oh no…I am right on setup spec again
Which Titus resisted
And resisted Cape
Ffs let’s do Cape please
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:06 am
by fireisredsir
like it literally could just be cape/frog/eyes and i think that's extremely believable
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:07 am
by MathBlade
If so then you die and it confirms a ton of people
And if you’re scum I die then you end up being PoE’d results false and have to bus April
Win win elim Cape
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:07 am
by tenebrousluminary
I think all scum are probably in Cape frog eyes galron.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:08 am
by Cape90
VOTE: fireisredsir
Okay.
I really want to see what fire did around that.
They seemed to be overplaying today if any of that is real. I am calling bluff