Sajin (1) <-~ hohum
MiteyMouse (1) <-~ Nikanor
Not voting (4) <-~ Cojin, qwints, Scien, Zorblag
Deadline wrote:
Deadline wrote:
No townie should have false claimed given Incognito's stated beliefs about the game. Lynch the obv-scum.Sajin wrote:Incognito just told me that chosen do not know they are chosen but scum do. I thought the chosen knew. There goes my mass claim idea.
Thanks for the rules update. Appreciated.
I am willing to be the lynch but now instead of knowing I am not the chosen, I could be one. That sucks.
Don't start with this again. He never claimed. In fact, he said he WASN'T chosen, because he didn't get a pm. I think you know Sajin is chosen, but forget that townies do not know their chosenness.qwints wrote:So, which is more likely?
Town false-claiming chosen believing chosen got a p.m.
or
Scum false-claiming chosen.
Explain please.Any townie claiming chosen ruins town's chances of a win.
I know you probably have good reason for posting this, would you mind telling me why? Or are you wanting to leave that vague?Zorblag wrote:First, scum can daytalk.
I too didn't fully understand if the Chosen would receive PMs, but I also didn't want to spoil anything until I got things answered from the mod. I know I suggested this, but I wanted to explicitly state it since I promised I would.Scien wrote: I will not tell you what my concern was until we have everyone contribute to the questions that are out at the moment. Please keep this in mind and comment on this if/when I forget about mentioning it.
All this makes sense. However I still urge that people don't discount a no-lynch day in the future if it seems to benefit the town. I understand that it might be risky... and looking at it generally might help scum, but in isolated cases can be a powerful tool for town.Zorblag wrote:Scien, Troll thinks that lynching probably still does be in the towns interest. We have two routes to victory in this game. We can keep the chosen alive or lynch the scum. Either one will win just fine whether or not we do the other. If we never lynch then the scum eventually have the advantage as town has to lynch before scum has to night kill. Early lynches both give us information and are less likely to hit a chosen (based on numbers of other targets available) than later lynches if we're just letting the scum kill at night.
It do be a tricky issue but Troll be pretty sure that reasoned lynches will tend to favor the town.
Did I answer this to your satisfaction with the below?MiteyMouse wrote:Why are you trying to be sneaky Scien?
Scien wrote:I answered the questions that were posed, without explicitly bringing out the rules misconception. I posed my own questions, hoping to further include others in conversation. I waited/am waiting to fully explain my position until we get others to comment.
Hence 'sneaky'.
We could have allowed the other scum to walk right into the same mistake. But meh, thats not a possibility now.
Heh, I don't think I have ever heard you so silent before. Strange.Papa Zito wrote:That was easy.
I was not suggesting a 'perfect' game. I was suggesting that we not ignore a tool of the town while we still have it.Hohum wrote:I'd rather conduct productive lynches rather than try and play "a perfect game" because it gives the scum less opportunity to introduce WIOFM into the town's thought processes.
Scien wrote:If anyone here is scum, they would know the chosen. Why would they come right out with a 'rolefish' if the 'fished' the roles already through game setup PMs? Why be as positive as you are that this is a scum tell? I don't hold this suspicious yet, but would like to hear your reasoning.
I disagree and I can go all into that fight again if you guys wish. However if you are just asking for my main suspicion at the moment it is to Hohum.PapaZ wrote: [On people not voting] This is bad.
Pressuring lurkers is generally useful for the game. I think, however, that the set-up would discourage scum from lurking.Zorblag wrote: What do you plan to do if we get a week into the game and one player no has done anything helpful so far as participation goes? What if there be more than one player in that category?
Chance of not being veto'd (6/7?) * Chance of being randomly chosen (1/3) = 6/21 = 2/7.Based on your role what do you think your chances of being the chosen are and why? For Troll the answer be about 1/6. Troll will give reasons after all have answered.
No-lynching and/or random-lynching [if there is a good way to do so] are powerful tools in the town's arsenal.What thoughts do any have about how we can use the setup to our advantage?