There is no real one place scum want to be. Trying to read his mind will get us no-where, I think he just simply jumped on the bandwagon. There's nothing particularly suspicious about that in and of itself.RossWilliam wrote:
Scum wants to be in the middle of an irrational bandwagon. I bet Kodamma was hoping somebody would jump on after him. Nobody jumps on, well then we gotta jump off! The last person to jump on always gets some attention, and thats bad for scum.
Bandwagons are good, in general.rolandgarros wrote:Whoaaa this game is moving wayy faster than my last game haha...
With that said, what prompted everyone to start voting Boxman all of a sudden? I can see Faraday suggesting the worth of a bandwagon, especially minus the risk that he'd get randomly lynched... But can you clarify this more? This is my first non-newbie game, so perhaps a bit explanation might help.
A vote is our means of pressure, thus more votes = moar pressure. The bandwagon on Boxman not only let us guage his reaction, but like we saw who he was suspicious of and so on. Basically it's a good way to kick the game off, and end the 'random voting stage' (hate that term).
Why do myself and don in particular appear neutral?rolandgarros wrote:Actually nevermind, I just caught up with the thread and it's starting to make more sense. Out of the three that bandwagoned, faraday and don I'd have to say come off as fairly neutral, assuming I'm wording my thoughts correctly. Kodamna's intentions, on the other hand, are quite debateable I'd have to say... Ross does have a point about kod...
What do you mean by 'debateable'. Please clarify.
Why don't you want a player, boxman in this case, to feel threatened this early on Day 1. Don't use it early in being day 1 as an excuse, that's crap, it's never too early to put people under pressure.Kodamma wrote:While you are absolutely correct about me testing the waters with my bandwagon vote Ross, I think you, and others, misunderstand my intentions on unvoting.
It makes no sense for me to unvote fearing I was under scrutiny, as I've only become under serious scrutiny, since unvoting.
I stand by my statement when I unvoted, I found Boxman's reaction to be strong and I was not pushing for a player to feel threatened this early in day 1. I did find Faraday's probing questions to Boxman regarding his decision and placement of order of suspects interesting, mostly because, Faraday has yet to remove his vote from Boxman.
Hence my vote for Faraday. To which he raised suspicions of my allegiance, but did not answer why he left his vote up.
Food for thought.
Thanks; I'm well aware I've yet to remove my vote. You also didn't answer my question in post 36. Where did I call you scummy, I was asking Boxman, using his logic, why you'd not be at the top of his scumlist. I didn't indicate your bandwagonning vote was scummy, and in fact I thought it was reasonably clear I felt the opposite.
It was pretty much a random bandwagon, so obviously the reasons are less than stellar.I do not think he should be the lynch of the day (he probably won't either as it's only the start of the day and the main reasons for his lynch are bad in the first place
MordyS's 50/51 are solid/correct.
Why FOS instead of vote?Starbuck wrote:I really didn't see what don_johnson saw of Boxman. It's supposed to be RVS, so why give a reason at all? I definitely don't like that quick bandwagon.
Now I'm not really that suspicious of don_johnson because at least he gave a detailed reason, but MordyS and Kodamma jumped on for no reason other than "who can resist a wagon!". Kodamma, once called out, quickly jumps off the wagon.
I'm not sure if I buy his defense in post 48.
FOS: Kodamma
Why not? What do you think his motivation was then?Starbuck wrote:I know that you started it and I did just read it, so please don't tell me to re-read. don_johnson was the only person who gave a reason, you didn't even give one.I really don't buy that you were trying to get the game moving.Why are you trying to deflect attention?
This is a strawman.So more or less, Mordy is FOSing me for disagreeing with him because we have different points of view.
This is all obvious and seems like posting for the sake of posting.Tjoe doesn't seem like the type who's going to contribute much information.....piggybacking can mean you're scum, or you're just lazy town.....lazy town is worst, because there's no solution for it....at least we can lynch scum. Lynching town is never a good idea.
Do you think Tjoe is scum or lazy town at this stage?
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