Mini 1260 - Last Will Mafia III (Over)

[Rhinox]

For page two over reacting to silly accusations of scum behavior is a scum tell. At least in my book. Also, don't post while you are drunk.

To be clear, I'm still in the RVS. I don't really see amrun's actions as that fidgety or overly defensive. Though, she is my strongest read.

Wait why is amrun still your strongest read if she didn't really do what you said was scummy and why are you downplaying now what you said before about her being so defensive? RVS doesn't cut it, you made non-RVS accusations.

[Shattered Viewpoint]

Rhinox, no comment on my #53?

[Rhinox]

Rhinox: I expect your vote to be willed to me.

You're referring to this?

we'll see

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Count

Fishythefish (2) - chamber, Shattered Viewpoint
chamber (2) - CooLDoG, whispersilk
Shattered Viewpoint (1) - StrangerCoug
Rhinox (1) - Amrun
StrangerCoug (1) - Rhinox
Amrun (1) - Darox
CooLDoG (1) - Fishythefish

With 9 vote in play it takes 5 to lynch

[CooLDoG]

For page two over reacting to silly accusations of scum behavior is a scum tell. At least in my book. Also, don't post while you are drunk.

To be clear, I'm still in the RVS. I don't really see amrun's actions as that fidgety or overly defensive. Though, she is my strongest read.

Wait why is amrun still your strongest read if she didn't really do what you said was scummy and why are you downplaying now what you said before about her being so defensive? RVS doesn't cut it, you made non-RVS accusations.

I still find amrun slightly over concerned and skiddy in the RVS stage. As of right now I simply have no other reads. Hence she is my strongest. I'm still not ready to make a serious vote yet.

@fishy, yeah I pushed an easy wagon. Get over it. I would have voted on it if it wouldn't have exposed her to a quick hammer my vote would have flung her to l-1.


I'm actually gonna go catch up on some other stuff and then post some comments about what people have posted so far. Expect content before bedi bye time.

[StrangerCoug]

@SV: you highly doubt I'm town? Why? Why aren't you voting me?

This is a good place for me to start right now.

VOTE: Shattered Viewpoint

No, it isn't.

Why not? Shattered Viewpoint has a suspect, yet his vote's sitting idle. Why isn't he making use of his vote?

Vote: Fishythesmellyfish

FoS: StrangerCoug

Need moar posting by absent peoples.

OMGUS for the lose.

[Amrun]

Why not? Shattered Viewpoint has a suspect, yet his vote's sitting idle. Why isn't he making use of his vote?

Ask him.

He's town.

[Fishythefish]

@Amrun: why is SV town?

[CooLDoG]

Wow, CooLDoG got lazy after watching community. CooLDoG goes to do his reads now.

[CooLDoG]

Fishy is my benefactor.

I will inevitable die night three, so I trust you will make good use of it.

Why is fishy above SV? At the start of the game are not all players equally likly to be town? Why did you skip down one player slot?

Question: how likely is it for fishy to get lynch bye n2 in your opinion?

Sweet wagon!

unvote, vote... oh wait.

So who wants my vote if I get lynched then?

I'm not so sure this is actually a good idea. It seems too easy for scum to manipulate.

right, once you die, your vote belongs to whoever you willed it to, and then you don't control it any longer - the person who has your vote wills it (along with any other vote they control) to whoever is on their list when they die.

P.s. fishy you were already first on my will

Again, I find this sorta odd. I personally just copy and pasted the player list at the start of the day. I do not understand why someone would later that list at the start.

Question: Rank how likely is it for fishy to get lynch bye n2 in your opinion?

Unvote, Vote: Amrun

It's a good vote.

Why the hop? Don't try to use "I wanted to be on a bigger wagon" defense. Because there were bigger wagons at this point.

Unvote Vote Amrun

Is she normally not sheepish as town?

Again, why the unvote?

Why not the Amrun wagon? (Why did you capitalize the 'w' in 'wagon'?)

Specifically, why the Amrun wagon over another wagon that was already built up?

I'm feeling Amrun's posting here sounds really off. Since my meta of him is "looks townish as scum", I have no idea what this should make me think.

What is off. Don't just say its fishy. God, you guys have got me saying it too. But seriously, what is off?

Only if its relevant.

How can captilization be relevant? Honestly? Is this what scum hunting has come to?

My Dearest Darling Amrun --

I am wounded -- nay,

fatally

wounded -- to the very core of my being that you don't realize that we've played many, many games together.

Don't expect the roses this year for your birthday.

Love, SV




chamber: jfc, for god's sake DROP THE FUCKING TYPO THING. You're getting annoying. Moreso than usual. And my tolerance is fairly high, actually. Just. Shut. Up.


Darox: hate your avatar. Give you a dollar to change it.

Fishy: Drunkposting FTW. Are you scum?


Rhinox: I expect your vote to be willed to me.

Wait... What are your current reads? Don't just spew no content on page 3 (woops, did I do that?).

[quote="In post 53Fishy: Drunkposting FTW. Are you scum?

No, I'm as town as a big bowl of town.[/quote]
This sorta post agrivates me. TELL US WHY YOU ARE TOWN. TELL US WHY IT IS FISHY.

@SV: you highly doubt I'm town? Why? Why aren't you voting me?

This is a good place for me to start right now.

VOTE: Shattered Viewpoint

No, it isn't.

Why not? Shattered Viewpoint has a suspect, yet his vote's sitting idle. Why isn't he making use of his vote?

Vote: Fishythesmellyfish

FoS: StrangerCoug

Need moar posting by absent peoples.

OMGUS for the lose.

Wiat, what is so concerning about an fos that makes you post the above?

Okay, so those are my comments on what has happened so far. Now its time to transfer that into reads.

Scum reads (in order):
Darox, does very little, has an odd choice of vote placement, and wills off his vote in odd places.
Fishy, say a lot without saying much at all. Why is X so?
Amrun, reasons I have already stated.

Town:
Chamber, despite the fact he vote me in the RVS
Llama fluff.
and possibly rhinox.

unvote, vote: darox

[chamber]

Darox is probably town.

[Rhinox]

I'm not so sure this is actually a good idea. It seems too easy for scum to manipulate.

I'm not too worried about it right now. It was RVS, but even if I were really getting lynched it wouldn't do any harm to say who I was willing my vote to or to see who will ask for and not ask for my vote - its public knowledge who gets who's vote as soon as a death occurs (lynch scene, morning scene) at least according to how the last game went.

Again, I find this sorta odd. I personally just copy and pasted the player list at the start of the day. I do not understand why someone would later that list at the start.

Question: Rank how likely is it for fishy to get lynch bye n2 in your opinion?

Whats odd about it? At the beginning of the game everyone is equally likely to be scum but not everyone is equally likely to do good things with the votes they are willed if they're town. My initial list is always going to be ordered based on who I think would make good decisions with my vote if they're town. After the game starts, all bets are off. I've already changed my list around 3 times and I'm certainly not finished making changes. I'm not really sure what likliness of fishy getting lynched by n2 has to do with it.

[whispersilk]

Odd Typo, what circumstances would lead to you making such a typo?

I pressed the shift key when I shouldn't have.

Right, but why? Is this something you normally do for the word "wagon", or words in general? Can you point to past examples?

Perhaps because I type too fast. Capitalise words that I shouldn't?...no. I can't point to past examples of this particular typo, no.

[whispersilk]

The range of things you've done isn't all that big, I'll leave the detective work to you.

Whispersilk, I see you posting elsewhere, get your ass back in here and tell me why you capitalized that W!

Yes, Sir.

/salutes

[StrangerCoug]

The more I think about Amrun defending Shattered Viewpoint the way he is, the more I suspect the two are scumbuddies. I disagree with CooLDoG that Fishythefish is scummy, but there's not much to go on yet.

[Amrun]

The more I think about Amrun defending Shattered Viewpoint the way he is, the more I suspect the two are scumbuddies.

That might actually be one of the stupidest theories ever.

[StrangerCoug]

Explain. Right now you're just spewing out words without backing them up, which doesn't make you all that credible.

[Amrun]

I'm expressing a town read on SV. It's partially meta-based. Woop de doo.

a) There is no reason for you to undermine my town read, especially this early game. Part of the reason I went after it so strongly was to see what would happen. People quick to tear down my read was one on the list - it's scummy.

b) I don't care if I'm credible at this stage of the game. I'm more credible than you, at least.

c) Most importantly,

how would the interaction between me and SV ever make sense as scumbuddies in any universe ever?

You're assigning scum motivation that simply does not exist.

[Amrun]

IN FACT

VOTE: Stranger Coug

[StrangerCoug]

I'm expressing a town read on SV. It's partially meta-based. Woop de doo.
Explain the part that isn't meta-based, because I do not care about meta. Meta is manipulable. Therefore, I care only about the here and now: this game.

a) There is no reason for you to undermine my town read, especially this early game. Part of the reason I went after it so strongly was to see what would happen. People quick to tear down my read was one on the list - it's scummy.

Shattered Viewpoint thinks and acts independently of you. If he does scummy things like he's doing right now (voicing suspicion without voting), there is no reason to have a town read on him, especially one as rigid as yours.

b) I don't care if I'm credible at this stage of the game. I'm more credible than you, at least.

"I don't care about credibility right now as long as I'm more credible than you"? This is flippant at best.

c) Most importantly,

how would the interaction between me and SV ever make sense as scumbuddies in any universe ever?

You're assigning scum motivation that simply does not exist.

Scum cannot afford to lose their partners this early. Think about the size and the mechanics.

[Amrun]

I don't care if I'm more credible than you, I just happen to be.

Scum cannot afford to tie themselves to their partners so soon is the REAL answer here. If SV had been in danger of being lynched? Maybe.

One weak vote? Hell no.

[chamber]

@whispersilk:

Whos scum?

@everyone

Stop being so goddamn scummy. I have one town read and its on bloody Darox, I can't trust

him

with my vote when I die n1.

[Amrun]

It's okay. You can leave it to SV.

[Darox]

I'm hurt chamber.

Anyway Cooldogs questions are a joke.

Choo Choo.

[Shattered Viewpoint]

Time to switch my vote.

unvote

Vote: StrangerCoug

If you feel that I need to explain why, you aren't paying attention.