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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:58 am

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IS: Don't forget that in every completed game we've shared so far that you, also, have been scum. And that I, also, was right in calling you such.

In fact, I even killed you for it the second time and was right.

The only reason this is out of proportion is that
OTHER PEOPLE, NOT MY DOING,
blew this out of proportion. Try looking at red, or is he your buddy this game?
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:15 am

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Ravel wrote:Xeras, IS and Pine:
1) In your games with her, Is Riceballtail generally a scummy player regardless of alignment?
2) Is Riceballtail a useful scumhunter?

I don't know. I was dead halfway through D1, and the only thing I can specifically recall if RBT being one of the hot D1 wagons.

I have no reason to disbelieve the Miller claim. RedFF's nameclaim raging in the face of a very good reason not to (to catch scum counterclaiming the name) comes off as scummy.

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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:30 am

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Pine wrote:
Ravel wrote:Xeras, IS and Pine:
1) In your games with her, Is Riceballtail generally a scummy player regardless of alignment?
2) Is Riceballtail a useful scumhunter?

I don't know. I was dead halfway through D1, and the only thing I can specifically recall if RBT being one of the hot D1 wagons.

I have no reason to disbelieve the Miller claim. RedFF's nameclaim raging in the face of a very good reason not to (to catch scum counterclaiming the name) comes off as scummy.

Unvote
Vote: RedFF


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Wrong. Scum right now are trying to look useful by asking a bunch of inane questions, useless comments and staying neutral. RedFF is too damn obvious in his attack. Its all hot blustering with no policy, principle or guidance behind it. Its suicidal for scum to stick their neck out like that and I dont see Red as a good enough player to pull that off starting day 1. (No offense Red, only a small minority of players could).

In fact, I would look at Jason being an extremely likely scum at this point.
I still would like a name from RBT though, in games like this, the scum should have been given fakeclaims anyways.

Unovte: RBT
Vote: Jason
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:44 am

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Mod: Is this based only on the first Ghostbusters movie, or is material from both movies and/or animated series fair game?
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:22 am

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Pine- Why do you need to know?
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:24 am

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Internet Stranger wrote:
In fact, I would look at Jason being an extremely likely scum at this point.
I still would like a name from RBT though, in games like this, the scum should have been given fakeclaims anyways.

Unovte: RBT
Vote: Jason



Care to elaborate a bit more on this?

Going to be on my weekend V/LA as usual, will still be about, but not quite as much. This will likely be the same every Saturday/Sunday.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:34 am

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Klazam wrote:Pine- Why do you need to know?

It will help a lot with flavor interpretation. For example, if RBT ever gave us a name, I can see different interpretations based on SP's answer. If we're dealing only with the first movie, then Louis (Rick Moranis) might make sense as a Miller, as would the slime ghost. If we're dealing with the second movie, Louis
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make sense as Miller. Lots of inference can be made from knowing exactly what flavor you're dealing with.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:52 am

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Eh.

The games I played with RBT and RedFF are both still active. So I guess I am not really supposed to talk about it yet.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:11 am

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jasonT1981 wrote:
Internet Stranger wrote:
In fact, I would look at Jason being an extremely likely scum at this point.
I still would like a name from RBT though, in games like this, the scum should have been given fakeclaims anyways.

Unovte: RBT
Vote: Jason



Care to elaborate a bit more on this?

Going to be on my weekend V/LA as usual, will still be about, but not quite as much. This will likely be the same every Saturday/Sunday.


Check your own ISO scum. Youre non-commital and just throwing out all sorts of fluffery. Including your last post. Youre coasting dude and that makes you scum.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:14 am

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Really, I am pretty sure I have taken a stance on the whole Miller claim thing in saying it is good practice to claim right off in games. I also am calling out those who are making issues of the non full claim as scum..

the reason I was asking the mod if character alignment was random or not, was so that I could try and at least verify or get an understanding of the game and the claim if a full claim was made. As it could have given town MORE information to go on.

I don't really think that is non committal, and fluff... do you?
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:24 am

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FOS: IS

You're trying too hard not to seem neutral by going after people. Why? Townies don't want a mislynch day 1, but you seem OK with it.

FOS: Jason

I get where IS is coming from, say who you actually suspect etc.

FOS: RBT

bWhere the claim where the claim where the claim at?
Where the claim where the claim where the claim at?


VOTE: Unvote
VOTE: Vote: RedFF

Townies don't jump on a lynch THAT quick with zero evidence past the RVS. It's scummy all over, and personally I believe you're trying to seem unscummy by attacking RBT for the smallest thing. It doesn't make you look townie by acting all insane and spazzing out whenever somebody acts the least bit suspicious, it just makes it harder for us to scum hunt because you're still attacking RBT for a claim she was right to make (Because if a cop were to investigate and get scum with no miller claim, the cop would instantly trying to get a lynch, and anybody who claims miller AFTER being investigated gets laughed at).

I don't 100% believe the miller claim as RBT hasn't posted much or helped scum hunt, but she was right to mention it if she is miller.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:56 am

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Miller claims for scum are usually very easy to make. Claim miller, boom done, not much more you can do. In this game we are lucky because roles will have specific names related to the theme. I don't see an issue with name claiming and the lack of name claim just seems to me like scum trying to think of what a miller in the ghostbusters universe would be.

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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:59 am

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redFF wrote:Miller claims for scum are usually very easy to make. Claim miller, boom done, not much more you can do.
In this game we are lucky because roles will have specific names related to the theme.
I don't see an issue with name claiming and the lack of name claim just seems to me like scum trying to think of what a miller in the ghostbusters universe would be.

Lol @ votes on me


This is what I was trying to establish. If names can be used to work out scum or town hence my questions about it.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:01 am

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redFF wrote:Miller claims for scum are usually very easy to make. Claim miller, boom done, not much more you can do. In this game we are lucky because roles will have specific names related to the theme. I don't see an issue with name claiming and the lack of name claim just seems to me like scum trying to think of what a miller in the ghostbusters universe would be.

Lol @ votes on me


Maybe it's just me, but throwing votes on somebody for not name claiming on day 1 may be over the top. Tell yah what, of she doesn't name claim in the next 24 hours, then maybe I'll be all suspicious and such. But right now, it's very early in day 1. Still lots of time left to hunt.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:01 am

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Hahhahahahha you're trying to start a quicklynch so let's just quicklynch you!
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:07 am

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redFF wrote:Hahhahahahha you're trying to start a quicklynch so let's just quicklynch you!


For reference:

Not day 1 claiming a potential power role (I've been in games where the trade off is a miller has a power ie: The Punisher is a vigilante) is not scummy, just a bit suspicous

Voting somebody for not day 1 claiming a potential power role (See above) is scummy.

In my eyes.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:32 am

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wow
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:39 am

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Wow what? You're upset I voted for you when you voted for somebody for much less?

You're not even scum hunting at the moment, you just made up your mind based on rice not name claiming. It's way too early to be saying people should name claim at the drop of a hat or be lynched.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:00 am

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Hmm. Internet Stranger is sure taking 'easy' jabs at Jason.

And by easy, I mean it looks like he is trying to distance without putting to much heat on Jason, so that way he doesn't get lynched.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:04 am

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Check your own ISO scum. Youre non-commital and just throwing out all sorts of fluffery. Including your last post. Youre coasting dude and that makes you scum.[/quote]

give me examples please
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:06 am

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Internet Stranger wrote:

Check your own ISO scum. Youre non-commital and just throwing out all sorts of fluffery. Including your last post. Youre coasting dude and that makes you scum.


give me examples please
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:10 am

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Xeras wrote:Hmm. Internet Stranger is sure taking 'easy' jabs at Jason.

And by easy, I mean it looks like he is trying to distance without putting to much heat on Jason, so that way he doesn't get lynched.


This. He also accused Jason of being scum, and responded by going "because you're scum" basically. Doesn't sit right.

VOTE: Unvote

Because I want to see IS's reason, and I'm not 100% convinced the previous person I voted for is scum (Although I am still very suspicious, I re-read and noticed I have basicly been saying the same things about Rice and I just feel he's too hasty, don't want to be a hypocrite).
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:21 am

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Can we stop talking about the game setup? Based on the mods response to the first question, it is clear that he won't say anything in regard to those questions, nor would I expect any mod to do so. If you can't tell if your name matches your alignment or not, then don't bother asking the mod since it won't help you much anyways.

Assuming no other killing role and all protections fail, if we policy lynch the miller d1 and she flips town, that gives us until day 4. Either way, we have time to make a decision regarding the miller, don't you agree red?
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:22 am

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@is: can you show me where jason is coasting anymore than, say, pine?
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:38 am

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jasonT1981 wrote:

Check your own ISO scum. Youre non-commital and just throwing out all sorts of fluffery. Including your last post. Youre coasting dude and that makes you scum.


This is actually a very lazy way of making it look like you are scum hunting while actually sitting on the fence spouting off suspicions etc that you don't justify.

It is not up to me to look in my ISO as to why I am scum. It is up to you, as the accuser to present a case and convince others. You are not even trying to do so.
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