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↑ Haschel Cedricson wrote:

↑ smargaret wrote:3. Basically, the game theory is right - miller claims don't survive to lylo, and preferably die via vig shot. The practical part is wrong - we can wait to decide when to vig shoot when there's a little more than three posts to go on.

Lady Lambda, what do you think of these two sentences?

I think that they're contradictory. If the whole point is to avoid distractions and kill something before lylo, it should be done ASAP rather than at leisure. Having it done at leisure doesn't satisfy the whole "Millers should be shot" ideal.

Most importantly, I think Smarg is backtracking.

Lots of WIFOMing from LLD.

LLD, why did you criticise Haschel for putting down a random vote after the miller claim when you did it yourself?

Oh, and pretty much everyone who's posted so far is town. Except possibly Smarg and daft.

VOTE: daftnarwhale

↑ Skenvoy wrote:Lots of WIFOMing from LLD.

LLD, why did you criticise Haschel for putting down a random vote after the miller claim when you did it yourself?

Oh, and pretty much everyone who's posted so far is town. Except possibly Smarg and daft.

VOTE: daftnarwhale

You have it wrong. I critized him for putting down a random vote after the miller claim WITHOUT ADDRESSING the miller claim ASWELL.

You'll note in my RVS post, I addressed the miller claim quite clearly.

Completely unrelated; while post 75 has given me a favorable attitude towards Lady Lambda, I WOULD like to hear her thoughts on Darox.

↑ Haschel Cedricson wrote:Completely unrelated; while post 75 has given me a favorable attitude towards Lady Lambda, I WOULD like to hear her thoughts on Darox.

I actually want to see more of Darox before I form a solid opinion. I have a few inklings I suppose I could share, but I would prefer to keep my peace for the moment and get back to you on this later.

Damn, activity.

VOTE: Smargaret

Agreeing with Lambda and voting her at the same time.
Page 1 and 2 were hilarious to read btw.

I believe the Miller claim, as I tend to do when people claim anything. Perhaps I'm a bit naive. Time will tell - I disagree that we should let the vig shoot Kanye N1 regardless of outcome of today though.

↑ smargaret wrote:2. Scum know who scum are, so scum know whether a miller claim is true or false. The post I quoted seemed awfully certain that Kanye's actually a miller, and while it's a little on the weak side, it's strong enough for a vote at this stage of the game.

But is it really all you're basing your case on? .-.
Also re: 75 - Hey hey I see no contradiction. Sentence 1: Millers should die by vig shot before LyLo. Sentence 2: We don't have to shoot the miller claim RIGHT AWAY but it would be good to stick to game theory and shoot them before LyLo.

I see no contradiction there.

↑ Skenvoy wrote:Lots of WIFOMing from LLD.

LLD, why did you criticise Haschel for putting down a random vote after the miller claim when you did it yourself?

↑ Skenvoy wrote:Oh, and pretty much everyone who's posted so far is town. Except possibly Smarg and daft.

↑ Skenvoy wrote:Lots of WIFOMing from LLD.

LLD, why did you criticise Haschel for putting down a random vote after the miller claim when you did it yourself?

↑ Skenvoy wrote:Oh, and pretty much everyone who's posted so far is town. Except possibly Smarg and daft.

What.
This seems like:
1. Lame excuse to not provide content
2. Lame excuse to not vote LLD even though he acknowledges that she's done scummy things without acknowledging of smarg or daft have done scummy things
3. Lameness

Why do you think LLD is town? Hell, why do you think everyone who'd posted besides smarg and daft are town? Why do you think those two are scum? What the hell are you doing? Do you like apple turnovers? I think they're delicious, I wish I had one right now so I could eat it.

↑ Isa wrote:Damn, activity.

YEH, GET OFF MAH LAWN YEH DAMN KIDS!
(also why do you think smarg's scum?)

↑ Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

↑ Parama wrote:what is townie about avoiding questions
what do town have to gain by avoiding questions
what do scum have to lose by avoiding questions
why can't you put together any solid argument this game oh wait nvm this last one already got ansewered

P-edit: wow I didn't even know that haschel I guess I don't pay attention to anything

then again I don'[t multiequote either so
P-edit2: stop it please'
p-edit3: hmm that is not a half bad logical thing and I'd be inclined to follow if not for lld already made herself obvscum

Town doesn't worry as much about appearances.

Avoiding questions APPEARS scummy.

Scum would be CONSCIOUS of this, and WOULDN'T DO IT.

Town, while mostly would answer the questions (as it is a pro-town thing to do), AREN'T PAYING AS MUCH ATTENTION TO APPEARANCE.

And so are infinitely more likely to avoid answering a question THAT BLATANTLY.

That's what makes him town.

Scum have a LOT to LOSE.
Town has LITTLE to GAIN.

But scum are INFINITELY LESS LIKELY to do it out of the two.

posts like this usually comes from scum fyi. "TOWN DON'T DO THAT, WE HONEST AND NEVER FRAID OF ANYTHING", no. You're counting on everyone being a drone and having no free-will, or intelligence.

Sorry didnt realize thread was open

^_^ loving the irony of miller discussion distracting town more than the actual claim.

uh, VOTE: lld i think shes a scumbag PERHAPS

↑ hiplop wrote:^_^ loving the irony of miller discussion distracting town more than the actual claim.

uh, VOTE: lld i think shes a scumbag PERHAPS

Buddy #2 detected.

Fate, get in here and help me with these derps. >.>

Wait, Fate's in this game?

*checks*

WHAT
WHERE THE HELL IS HE?

lld do you mind if i blindly tunnel you this game mastin style?

Fate, Pine, Kats:
WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU?

y'know what no
1 scum in that group
for sure

↑ hiplop wrote:lld do you mind if i blindly tunnel you this game mastin style?

"Do you mind if I make myself useless for this game?"

You bothered to ask?

↑ Isa wrote:Damn, activity.

VOTE: Smargaret

Agreeing with Lambda and voting her at the same time.
Page 1 and 2 were hilarious to read btw.

I believe the Miller claim, as I tend to do when people claim anything. Perhaps I'm a bit naive. Time will tell - I disagree that we should let the vig shoot Kanye N1 regardless of outcome of today though.

So you're agreeing with me (that we shouldn't jump to vig shot n1) and voting me at the same time?

^ Scum needs to die.

↑ Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

↑ hiplop wrote:lld do you mind if i blindly tunnel you this game mastin style?

"Do you mind if I make myself useless for this game?"

You bothered to ask?

counter productivity doesn't necessarily mean useless, just not a very good use

↑ hiplop wrote:

↑ Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

↑ hiplop wrote:lld do you mind if i blindly tunnel you this game mastin style?

"Do you mind if I make myself useless for this game?"

You bothered to ask?

counter productivity doesn't necessarily mean useless, just not a very good use

Why are you still arguing this?

Shift your vote to Smarg and be useful.

↑ smargaret wrote:

↑ Isa wrote:Damn, activity.

VOTE: Smargaret

Agreeing with Lambda and voting her at the same time.
Page 1 and 2 were hilarious to read btw.

I believe the Miller claim, as I tend to do when people claim anything. Perhaps I'm a bit naive. Time will tell - I disagree that we should let the vig shoot Kanye N1 regardless of outcome of today though.

So you're agreeing with me (that we shouldn't jump to vig shot n1) and voting me at the same time?

Your vote was placed down because of...IDK, that LLD believes a claim, that we might not have a vig in the setup and that she says vigs should shoot the miller night 1 seems to be the reasons. Believing a claim is not a scumtell, assuming that we have have a vig and speculating in what should be done is not a scumtell, stating that vigs shall be shot night 1 is questionable, but I wouldn't call it a scumtell.
While doing this you still agree with LLD that yes, we shall indeed shoot the miller with the vig. By saying this, you
1. speculate in the existance of a vig, like LLD
2. believe that the miller shall be shot, like LLD. The difference is the timing.
So the only thing that LLD do that you didn't was to believe the claim, which she refuted quickly.

My reasons for voting you are the above, not the fact that I agree with you on when the miller should die. I can agree with you on different things and still vote you, because my reasons for voting you aren't related to what we agree on. It's related to your actions - i.e. putting down the vote.
In fact, if we do a list of things we agree on, it differs only slightly from the list of things that I agree with LLD on:
1. Vig speculation
2. Shooting the miller, but not necessarily at night 1

Me and LLD:
1. Vig speculation
2. Shooting the miller
3. "Believing" the claim - I'm putting this down since you did the same.

So yeah. I'm voting you not because of a huge disagreement, but rather, because of the lack of such while you still voted her.

↑ smargaret wrote:So you're agreeing with me (that we shouldn't jump to vig shot n1) and voting me at the same time?

it's a theory thing, not a scumhunting thing, so there's a difference kthx

↑ hiplop wrote:counter productivity doesn't necessarily mean useless, just not a very good use

-_-
Holy crap Isa your posts are way too long winded for saying something so simple. Please be concise in the future. Thank you.
Seriously, that last line is all that needed to be said, maybe with a *little* bit of extra stuff.

...

YOU"D THINK AFTER GETTING LYNCHED BEFORE I COUDL FUCKING POST LAST GAME SPYREX WOULD HAVE THE DECENCY TO TELL ME THIS ONE HAD STARTED

BUT

NO.



THIS IS FUCKING HAPPENING, IDC WHAT 4 PAGES OF USELESS SHIT YOU FUCKS HAVE PSOTED PARAMA IS. DYING. TODAY.

↑ Parama wrote:kanye why did you steal my RVS you prick
I was looking forward to fate voting me so I could OMGUS

vote: LLD

Because obviously we can't determine from his play whether or not he's town; noooo, let's default to making him a n1 vigkill even if he is the paragon of towniness day 1.
I know you're smarter than this, LLD.

oh good it turns out he's FUCKING SCUM TOO