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↑ iDanyboy wrote:I think you are mafia though and you was bussing him and then you used any reason you could to get your vote off him.

Prove it. Evidence triumphs all. I would like to see quotes and how those quotes led you to that conclusion.

↑ MattP wrote:

↑ Bitmap wrote:
Our goal is to find scum, not lynch noobtown.

From like the 6 skype voice games I've played with Bitmap he only stated he sucked in game he was town.

Although according to his sig he's conscious of that meta by now.

Oh, I remember playing with you on skype. Honestly, I'll admit I'm not that good but lynching Iceguy would be a bad idea now if he does turn up town. However, I would be up for the L-1 pressure on him.

I think what would be best for town is if everyone stopped talking IMMEDIATELY about IceGuy's role and about massclaiming, pretend it never happened, and move on.

↑ MattP wrote:I think what would be best for town is if everyone stopped talking IMMEDIATELY about IceGuy's role and about massclaiming, pretend it never happened, and move on.

Agreed. But you can't deny that it can be used as possible evidence as a scum/town slip. Honestly, he's null for me. I don't know why scum would attract so much attention this early and why town would leak that.

MichelSableheart wrote:The question to Staeg in #19 is flat out rolefishing.

Uh, no it's not. Unless he's a dumbass and goes "Well my role is blah de blah, so I think blah de blah".



Quilford looks pretty bad, too.

↑ ChaosOmega wrote:

MichelSableheart wrote:The question to Staeg in #19 is flat out rolefishing.

Uh, no it's not. Unless he's a dumbass and goes "Well my role is blah de blah, so I think blah de blah".

unvote, vote: Bitmap

Quilford looks pretty bad, too.

But .bmp is a high quality image format!

↑ Shamrock wrote:
so you would say he is... melting?

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Other than that, I believe everything has been covered, and DCLXVI is scum.

Way to kill the discussion, Nexus

I didn't really notice it before, but now that it's been brought up, Bitmap's sudden unvote is weird, I am curious what he thought IceGuy's reasoning for the mass claim was if he didn't think IceGuy was rolehinting?

↑ Staeg wrote:
IG, "beneficial" is fine by me, but if it's a load of baloney you're eating rope and a lot of it.

Now that I'm looking back again, this is Staeg trying to pressure IceGuy into revealing more about his role.

↑ Staeg wrote:Oh and

unvote
vote: DCLXVI

Why did you unvote and vote DCL

DCL, I still want your vote on Staeg

No, it's not me pressuring him into revealing anything - yet.

And I votec dcl cause his post was scummy...? Like, what other reason could I ever come up with?

@CO: your question strongly encourages discussing the relations between character names and powerroles. That is bound to give mafia information. Besides, it's very difficult for Staeg to answer your question without giving away information regarding the relation of his own role and any powers he may have.

I don't think Bitmap's vote then unvote is suspicious. If you missed post #12, it's easy to first be suspicious of IceGuy rolefishing, then dropping the case when you realize he claims to have role info.

↑ Staeg wrote:No, it's not me pressuring him into revealing anything - yet.

And I votec dcl cause his post was scummy...? Like, what other reason could I ever come up with?

It is pressuring him, it says, "tell me what your role does or I'll string you up" essentially

Why was it scummy?

No, it's saying "you better have that claim all good and shiny come massclaim cause I'm saving this rope just for you".

There was a fallacy, a gut-scummy thing and him assuming that it's a fakeclaim rather than a normal claim (bro, for a fakeclaim to work the mod needs to assume that he could have used the role as town in the first place).

↑ Staeg wrote:No, it's saying "you better have that claim all good and shiny come massclaim cause I'm saving this rope just for you".

↑ Staeg wrote:
IG, "beneficial" is fine by me, but if it's a load of baloney you're eating rope and a lot of it.

BS, I don't see any reference in any of your posts to it being true come massclaim. If IceGuy thought you wanted more flavor or role info and spilled then you would've just backtracked.

↑ Staeg wrote:There was a fallacy, a gut-scummy thing and him assuming that it's a fakeclaim rather than a normal claim (bro, for a fakeclaim to work the mod needs to assume that he could have used the role as town in the first place).

K

Which one of these would you assume to be what happens after a nameclaim (provided that a nameclaim itself happens):

Iceguy spills his beans and fullclaims to let everyone know why we needed a nameclaim.
He says "k thanks this will suffice" and leaves it there, claiming at a later time once he has something.
Other; explain.

(also just to make sure that this is stupidproof: IG, make no comments about this exchange until a later time)

↑ Staeg wrote:Which one of these would you assume to be what happens after a nameclaim (provided that a nameclaim itself happens):

Iceguy spills his beans and fullclaims to let everyone know why we needed a nameclaim.
He says "k thanks this will suffice" and leaves it there, claiming at a later time once he has something.
Other; explain.

(also just to make sure that this is stupidproof: IG, make no comments about this exchange until a later time)

IceGuy at first did not even say what he was doing was role-related. Only after people attacked him for it and called him scummy did he reveal it was role-related.

You adding on extra pressure of saying, "prove this is for a good reason or you're eating rope" reads as everything else that was being spewed in the moment, it was another thing to add pressure to IceGuy to reveal more about his role at moment, not come a massclaim

You backtracking by saying it was implied he should only reveal more after a massclaim is shitty

Yeah, I didn't outright say "come massclaim," but how the hell did you interpret what I said in 30 as "explain NOW or you die"?

↑ Staeg wrote:Yeah, I didn't outright say "come massclaim," but how the hell did you interpret what I said in 30 as "explain NOW or you die"?

I don't even know how to respond to this.

If I said, "eat an apple" does that mean "eat an apple now" or "eat an apple tomorrow"?

That's not the same thing. At all. So let's ask the audience. @everyone: how did you interpret what I said in 30?

In #41 IceGuy says more about his role, right after only you and michaelsable pushed him more.

IceGuy, what did you think of #30? Did it influence your furthered info?

↑ MattP wrote:
IceGuy, what did you think of #30? Did it influence your furthered info?

Not really.

Other than that, I don't get the Bitmap wagon. It shows that it's newbie behavior, not scummy behavior. DCLXVI is a juicier target.

I'll do a post by post at some point today to make up for my quietness.
OP says "- No impossible/hard to read text, or ." I've played with Matt before on another forum. Does that rule mean I can't use any innuendo's that only we would understand from past rounds or the other forum we used to use?