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In post 73, ThaneArvan wrote:I have played mafia in real life but never via forum, I am used to beig able to rely on expressions and tone. I'm not quite sure where I go from here with progressing advice. Can one of the ICs explain this to me? Also, I fail to see how it is anti town not to use a vote

I'm the one and only IC here(;

There aren't many 100% reliable scum reads if any.

It's all about someone's play. Scum can't scum hunt since they already know who town is and who their scum partner(s) are. Typically scum like to jump from wagon to wagon to he someone lynched. If someone is very passive and not taking a side, they could possibly be scum. This is a scum tell because scum don't want to be forced to choose one or the other, for the most part, they want to make everyone happy. Staying passive also keeps scum available to jump on any wagon, as they don't always have definite reads.

It takes a while, some faster than others to fully understand people's playstyles and develop good scum hunting skills.

@Tybalt: I'm still waiting for an answer to this:

In post 59, Greywing wrote:@Tybalt: Is there anything in particular that is giving you Town reads on Moth and Mala?

There's also been a ridiculous lack of analysis from Luigi so far. There was his well publicised RVS post, and he's only followed it up with posts complaining about people discussing him. I still believe that his RVS vote was intended as a joke, but the lack of content since then makes me think that he's trying to fly under the radar. Mala's looking more Town to me now after a re-read.

UNVOTE: Malakittens
VOTE: Luigilewis889

Malakittens wrote:
How is ThaneArvsn being neutral?

All that I'm saying is that he's basically ignoring all the events that have transpired without voting anyone or giving any reads.

In post 65, Malakittens wrote:ThaneArvan,

You are still side-lining though. You haven't placed a vote. Do you have any scum-suspects worthy enough for a vote?

Basically this, so now I'm sort of confused as to why you would ask me if you hold the same opinion...

Town
1. Honey bee
2. JMO
3. Moth

Null
1. malakittens (Town vibes but I don't know why she would ask me a question and then post later the answer)
2. uoyeluri (Good first post but inactive)
3. Greywing (towniest null read right now)

Scum
1. luigilewis (I agree with what other people are saying about him)
2. ThaneArvan

ThaneArvan wrote:I have played mafia in real life but never via forum, I am used to beig able to rely on expressions and tone. I'm not quite sure where I go from here with progressing advice. Can one of the ICs explain this to me? Also, I fail to see how it is anti town not to use a vote

Same with me, but I've played on forums a long time ago. I think what he is saying is that using your vote shows your opinions and sparks discussion, whereas not using your vote sort of makes it look like you're trying to lay low and slow discussion so that scum will not be found.

I asked you a question, but no I never answered it.

Thane's first post was #10..
You voted him in #55..
He didn't provide anything.. Anything to be neutral.. You're basically voting a lurker who's not really being considered a lurker.
Now if second post came before your #55 then you might have a chance with that argument, but right now you're grasping at straws.

Sorry Tybalt, but I don't like your latest post. You seem to be tryin to find your footing, but it's really weak and really giving me a bad vibe. I can see new scum going for the lets vote a lurker card to try to avoid attention and look like they are helping.

VOTE: Tybalt

In post 73, ThaneArvan wrote:I fail to see how it is anti town not to use a vote

Voting is pretty much the only threat we have on the mafia. It allows you gauge reactions, gives us responses for analysis later, and validates your reads. Otherwise your accusations will not mean anything to the person you suspect. There is an unvote button, y'know. so unless it will hammer or allow someone else the opportunity to hammer, what harm is there for voting your scum reads? Don't be afraid to throw out ideas and weak reads: It will create more discussion which is what we want, especially now.

Thane doesn't stick out over any of the other people who took a halfassed stance, I'm not sure why jmo thinks he's notable.

In post 78, tybalt wrote: All that I'm saying is that he's basically ignoring all the events that have transpired without voting anyone or giving any reads.

I agree with Mala. This reasoning is after the fact, taking from the thread why he's suspicious now. I want to VOTE: Vote: Tybalt for now. You even say that Uo's only post was good but his post seemed as wishy washy as Thane's recent ones (except for the vote, which you said you don't care about). Please clarify some of your reads.

Apologies for not having posted for a while, haven't really had much to say. Anyway, after a quick lookover...

VOTE: Thane

Still hasn't voted, and with a lot of discussion and accusations going around, even a couple in my direction, I can think of a few reasons, but the most prominent in my mind at the moment is unsure of who to put pressure on to get lynched. Which is mainly done as Mafia, in my experience.

That's an oppurnist vote if I ever seen one.

It's null tell because town can be afaird to pressure. I remember my first ever game. I was scared to pressure.

Okay my top two scum list is { Tybalt, Lugi}

@mala: why call out luigi and not jmo? He's voting thane for the same reasons...

In post 83, mothrax wrote:@mala: why call out luigi and not jmo? He's voting thane for the same reasons...

Because I vote him first?

And? Her post calls out the reasoning behind the vote.

I had him voted before he explained anything. Luigi, on the other hand voted him after.

In post 83, mothrax wrote:@mala: why call out luigi and not jmo? He's voting thane for the same reasons...

Jmo's vote looked like a pressure vote. It didn't bother me, but Luigi's vote did.

Plus Luigi's vote puts Thane at L-2 and as I said it looks like an opportunist jump.

In post 81, Luigilewis889 wrote:Still hasn't voted, and with a lot of discussion and accusations going around, even a couple in my direction, I can think of a few reasons, but the most prominent in my mind at the moment is unsure of who to put pressure on to get lynched. Which is mainly done as Mafia, in my experience.

How does any of this not apply to you? You say there is "a lot of discussion and accusations going around". If that's true then you should have comments and opinions on it.

VOTE: Luigilewis889 for not mentioning me until he is asked by jmo in post #72 how he feels about me. Upon being asked about me he quotes what others have said and then votes me. It seems almost like a less experienced mafia following the lead of a more experienced one, however this is flawed by the fact that I get a town read from jmo.

I don't know if luidgi's slot is scum. Don't really know why he replaced out though.

Replacing out is a null tell.

Jmo. Do you still think Thane is scum? You're barely hunting to me and your vote for pressure is now not needed because Thane is actually producing content etc.

Herro there replacements (:

ThaneArvan wrote:VOTE: Luigilewis889 for not mentioning me until he is asked by jmo in post #72 how he feels about me. Upon being asked about me he quotes what others have said and then votes me.

It seems almost like a less experienced mafia following the lead of a more experienced one, however this is flawed by the fact that I get a town read from jmo.

So let me get this straight: Your case is based on a feeling that he's being coached by a scum partner (Jmo) that you have a Town read on?

As for the section before that, why are you specifically singling out Luigi, when others have done the same thing?

@Tybalt: Ever plan on answering my question?

In post 59, Greywing wrote:@Tybalt: Is there anything in particular that is giving you Town reads on Moth and Mala?

Both asked questions that propelled us out of RVS, pro town playing.

Mala's 15, 50, 93. Analyzing scumreads instead of fostering them to result in possible lynch later in the day
Moth's 39 also.

Asking questions to other people and catches scumtells

In post 95, Malakittens wrote:Herro there replacements (:

Why herro

Happy to replace in, nice to meet you all. At work atm but read through most of this earlier today waiting for a sub conf.; will review this arvo.

For now,
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Greywing

Some good analysis coming from GW, maybe a bit good? I wonder if he's missed out on tentatively reading anyone yet?

PS - @any IC - how does the preview function work? I can't seem to see the end-formatting of my 'prospective' posts

Welcome to the game replacements!

I'm the only IC in this game. Once you type up your reply, jus hit the preview button and above the text box that you type in, your message will appear like it will once you post it in game.

Does that answer your question?

@thane, how was me questioning luidgi's about another player qualify as coaching?