Mini 274: Lying Cheating Scumbag Mafia - GAME OVER


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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:16 pm

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Top 'o the page to ya' Vote Count


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Dragon Phoenix- 3(RangeroftheNorth, Sotty7, Aelyn)


Not Voting- 6(Iammars, chaotic_diablo, davidangelsummers, N_lich, The_Machine86, Dragon Phoenix)


With
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:57 pm

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vote DP
For hammering without the use of gloves
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:17 pm

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I'm gonna

Unvote


for now. I'm uneasy at keeping him one away from a lynch without any real discussion here today. Speed lynches gives us no information to work with.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:50 pm

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I'm concerned about how everyone is quick to jump on the bandwagon. It's true that DP's quick lynch is scummy, but that doesn't mean it's a scumtell.
I'd like to at least hear a better defense from DP other than it being accidental. He's pulled this kind of thing before, and I highly doubt it can be unintentional.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:51 pm

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It really was accidental. I did not imagine for one moment that on page 2 we were already one vote away from a lynch. Like I said, shit happens. In that sense, quickly putting someone just one vote from a lynch is at least as scummy as dropping the hammer.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:53 am

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BUMP over the closed threads.

Also, DP, you're two from lynch. I know our reasoning for wagoning you is not the strongest around, but it's frankly the best we have. It helps me feel good about it that you actually haven't said anything this game (seriously, go check his posts out, he hasn't commented on the game at all!)

My vote's sticking on until there's good reason for me to move it. I don't trust you.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:48 am

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Thats's fair. I trust almost noone in this game.

Farnkly, there is not much to say so far. Day one was over before I relaised and all I have been doing day two so far is trying not to get lynched.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:39 am

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Dragon Phoenix wrote: In that sense, quickly putting someone just one vote from a lynch is at least as scummy as dropping the hammer.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:30 am

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Im worried that everyone is posting outside the thread rather then inside. I find the people inside the thread a little bit more trust worthy as they have nothing to hide. It must be worse for people who have had no pms at all they must feel out the loop.(assumeing there telling the truth)
Noone is helping matters by being coy. Lets at least all agree on all posting are thoughts thus far.
I feel that DP may wll be scum but I dont like the way no-one is really pushing it. To me this game started like that and town got lynched. I for one dont want to see thay happen again.The odds are going to be very short if we post minimal and and punish maxium..
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:06 am

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Well I don't feel that DP has really done enough to defend himself against what happened yesterday. In fact he doesn't really seem at all bothered with happened. I think in the face of being lynched, as he is right now, he should claim. If he doesn't I will happily revote him
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:38 am

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What more do you want me to say? There is nothing to elaborate on. It was a mistake, I did not expect that at page 2 I would already be dropping the lynching vote, so I did not think of counting.

Lynch me if you think I'm a scumbag stupid enough to do something so evident. Do not lynch me if you give me more credit than that.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:04 am

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Being stupid has nothing to do with scumminess.

However, N_lich qouted one of DP's posts. Could he(DP) elaborate on what he meant?
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:25 am

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I mean that the person bringing the bandwagon just one vote away from the hammer is taking the risk that:
- someone does not notice, joins the bandwagon and hammers (like me)
- someone puts on the next vote in an almost simulpost, thus hammering without intending (something I've seen happening before).

This is therefore just as "scummy" as dropping the hammer whilst still on page 2.
Being stupid has nothing to do with scumminess.
I beg to differ. In my experience scum tend to play more careful than town, and are therefore less prone to make stupid mistakes.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:07 pm

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I beg to differ. In my experience scum tend to play more careful than town, and are therefore less prone to make stupid mistakes.
We can't expect you to immediately be innocent just because scum wouldn't do a careless mistake like it. That's pretty much WIFOM logic.
I happened to use that kind of defense before, and I can tell you that it doesn't work very well.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:23 pm

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I agree with that, but on the other hand it also does not make me automatically scum, now does it?
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:04 pm

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Iammars?…..Ranger? ….Machine?
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:30 am

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Dragon Phoenix wrote:I agree with that, but on the other hand it also does not make me automatically scum, now does it?
No it doesn't. However, it does prove that being stupid has no corollation with being scum.

I'm a bit suspicious of the lurkers.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:45 am

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chaotic_diablo wrote:I'm a bit suspicious of the lurkers.
Me too.

Am I the only one that thinks DP should claim?
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:11 am

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alright, I'm here. i haven't had much time recently, but i should have more time from here on out. I would like to here a claim from DP.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:46 pm

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I think DP should claim right after we hear more from the lurkers and see if they can add more or less to the criticism. Depending on what they say, our decisions might change.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:55 pm

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I'll wait for the lurkers to show up.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:08 am

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Dragon Phoenix wrote:I'll wait for the lurkers to show up.
Wouldn't that potentially give you plenty of time to talk to people with the intention of building a fake claim? It seems like, should you be scum, the mechanics of this game make it perfect for you to want to wait as long as possible before claiming.

I want a claim ASAP.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:22 am

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I'd like a claim- I don't see a better avenue of discussion for the moment.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:08 am

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Aelyn wrote:
Dragon Phoenix wrote:I'll wait for the lurkers to show up.
Wouldn't that potentially give you plenty of time to talk to people with the intention of building a fake claim? It seems like, should you be scum, the mechanics of this game make it perfect for you to want to wait as long as possible before claiming.

I want a claim ASAP.
I agree but it is up to the town to be pro active why cant certain players just post so we can get this claim.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:04 am

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N_lich wrote:I'd like a claim- I don't see a better avenue of discussion for the moment.
That's only because some people haven't posted as much as they should to contribute in the first place. If they had, there would be more to discuss.

It's true that waiting gives scum more time to discuss, but it also works the other way around. I don't see why scum should get the advantage when everyone else can be doing the same. The only problem is whether your taking it or not.
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