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In post 64, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:

In post 24, MC RIDE wrote:VOTE: Amethyst Snowflake for picking the most obvious, easy target for bandwagoning

dat miller vote

In post 39, fferyllt wrote:

In post 38, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:Not telling you.
I'm not outing my alt.

Ok. I can't think of many games where I didn't draw at least a vote or two on day 1. Except for a couple of replace-ins. hmm.

I will eventually track this down.

I'm not sure if this is suspicion?

BRO's #48 is Town BRO, I think.

In post 49, MC RIDE wrote:AA9 wagon might end up funny and all but her reaction will be over the top and will leave us with so much uncertainity.

That said, I'm not good at reading her.

I'm not sure what the fixation on AA is about.

In post 59, fferyllt wrote:
I tend to buy miller claims on day 1, too. The way this claim was made bothered me, though, like it could be an offhand rvs-phase joke rather than a serious claim.

This was my concern with the claim, it looked to me like a claim that you could back out of if the situation required, but I guess that option isn't available anymore

I really like this post. It's a little unsettling having you in my town pile at all, much less on page 4.

/confirm.. I am late

What did i miss?

Going to need a catch up..Hang on ladies...

In post 71, MC RIDE wrote:I remember a time where I was almost lynched for making a case on her, so that's one thing. (I was mafia but whatever)

My gut says Snowflake is honest about her(their? I can't into pronouns) claim so UNVOTE:

At what point did you get this feeling about Snowflake? Because the claim came before you voted him...

In post 78, ArcAngel9 wrote:Going to need a catch up..Hang on ladies...

You missed a convoluted discussion of the pros and cons of wagoning you or me.

What are your thoughts?

Oh and a miller claim! You missed that too.

In post 79, Kdub wrote:

In post 71, MC RIDE wrote:I remember a time where I was almost lynched for making a case on her, so that's one thing. (I was mafia but whatever)

My gut says Snowflake is honest about her(their? I can't into pronouns) claim so UNVOTE:

At what point did you get this feeling about Snowflake? Because the claim came before you voted him...

Between my vote and unvote ofc. The first reaction I had when I read the claim was "To hell with it, this is still a good vote." but she started looking townier hence the unvote

In post 82, MC RIDE wrote:

In post 79, Kdub wrote:

In post 71, MC RIDE wrote:I remember a time where I was almost lynched for making a case on her, so that's one thing. (I was mafia but whatever)

My gut says Snowflake is honest about her(their? I can't into pronouns) claim so UNVOTE:

At what point did you get this feeling about Snowflake? Because the claim came before you voted him...

Between my vote and unvote ofc. The first reaction I had when I read the claim was "To hell with it, this is still a good vote." but she started looking townier hence the unvote

She did? How so?

Current conversation looks ever-so-slightly backpedally, plus keeping my RVS on ffery is pretty useless since she's already oozing obvTown.

In post 82, MC RIDE wrote:

In post 79, Kdub wrote:

In post 71, MC RIDE wrote:I remember a time where I was almost lynched for making a case on her, so that's one thing. (I was mafia but whatever)

My gut says Snowflake is honest about her(their? I can't into pronouns) claim so UNVOTE:

At what point did you get this feeling about Snowflake? Because the claim came before you voted him...

Between my vote and unvote ofc. The first reaction I had when I read the claim was "To hell with it, this is still a good vote." but she started looking townier hence the unvote

That has nothing to do with the claim though. If Snowflake started looking more town because of general play, it seems odd that you would unvote with the justification you gave rather than just saying that they were looking more town.

I know Marangal's play and this feels like her town play, so I trust her claim. Why should I ever have to outright believe or dismiss her claim without hearing anything more?

Also, for the record I'm at L-1 now as I'm a Hated Townie.

In post 76, fferyllt wrote:

In post 64, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:

In post 24, MC RIDE wrote:VOTE: Amethyst Snowflake for picking the most obvious, easy target for bandwagoning

dat miller vote

In post 39, fferyllt wrote:

In post 38, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:Not telling you.
I'm not outing my alt.

Ok. I can't think of many games where I didn't draw at least a vote or two on day 1. Except for a couple of replace-ins. hmm.

I will eventually track this down.

I'm not sure if this is suspicion?

BRO's #48 is Town BRO, I think.

In post 49, MC RIDE wrote:AA9 wagon might end up funny and all but her reaction will be over the top and will leave us with so much uncertainity.

That said, I'm not good at reading her.

I'm not sure what the fixation on AA is about.

In post 59, fferyllt wrote:
I tend to buy miller claims on day 1, too. The way this claim was made bothered me, though, like it could be an offhand rvs-phase joke rather than a serious claim.

This was my concern with the claim, it looked to me like a claim that you could back out of if the situation required, but I guess that option isn't available anymore

I really like this post. It's a little unsettling having you in my town pile at all, much less on page 4.

Funny, I have the exact opposite feeling on this post

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This alt...

Who are you? No one knows my play to the point where it's easily to differentiate my town and scum meta...

are you one of my hydra buddies?

Ffery, why do you like TMT's post? I don't particularly find anything of worth in there, just looks like he's taking an outsiders stance over actually engaging in the game

What makes you think Ffery's oozing Obvtown? I don't get that impression from her yet.

the last sentence is to GM >.>

In post 89, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:Ffery, why do you like TMT's post? I don't particularly find anything of worth in there, just looks like he's taking an outsiders stance over actually engaging in the game

Because he echoed two things I was thinking about but hadn't posted, and expanded one of them further than I had taken it myself.

In post 87, MC RIDE wrote:Also, for the record I'm at L-1 now as I'm a Hated Townie.

I don't know that I necessarily believe this claim, seeing as it's not a very common role. ALSO this is a Micro UPick, I don't see 2/7 townies having negative utility roles.
So one of {you, hydra} is likely lying, in my books.
If you actually are a Hated, why didn't you claim it earlier?

In post 89, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:What makes you think Ffery's oozing Obvtown? I don't get that impression from her yet.

Because her play here is already feeling identical to her play in Newbie 1351.

That is honestly the most town feeling post I have ever seen from letters. I'm in the same boat as ffery in terms of that worrying me.

Hated is an interesting claim, especially with the miller in play. I'm kind of in the same boat as gm. Double neg utility is a lot for a micro, although not completely unreasonable if the town has a lot of power elsewhere.

This also feels like town ffery right now.

In post 87, MC RIDE wrote:Also, for the record I'm at L-1 now as I'm a Hated Townie.

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MC claiming this after the "L-1" vote does give me a town vibe, as scum would have to know that a hated townie has to be lynched at some point. But, if the claim is true, MC has to die at some point before lylo. Two negative utility roles in a game this size is plausible, but hated townie is a VERY negative utility role. This basically means that if it's true, then lylo could be D2 (if we mislynch today).

We either lynch MC today or tomorrow, or we hope a vig kills him tonight. I'm going to unvote to avoid any "accidents", but everyone needs to weigh in on MC's claim.

UNVOTE:

In post 94, Kdub wrote:

In post 87, MC RIDE wrote:Also, for the record I'm at L-1 now as I'm a Hated Townie.

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MC claiming this after the "L-1" vote does give me a town vibe, as scum would have to know that a hated townie has to be lynched at some point. But, if the claim is true, MC has to die at some point before lylo. Two negative utility roles in a game this size is plausible, but hated townie is a VERY negative utility role. This basically means that if it's true, then lylo could be D2 (if we mislynch today).

We either lynch MC today or tomorrow, or we hope a vig kills him tonight. I'm going to unvote to avoid any "accidents", but everyone needs to weigh in on MC's claim.

UNVOTE:

I think it's legit; I think your response to it is also pro-town.

I've never seen the role before. Pretty wicked.

MC, what was your rationale for not claiming right away?

I was recently in a 9p game that had two millers. Two anti-town roles in a game this size isn't out of the question.

If the rest of the game is non-VT (it is), I would pretty much say it's even likely.

Bork, how do you know that the rest of the game is non-VT?

read the setup