Why?Fritzler wrote:really? I still find micigante scummier than either of them
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but i knew ibae was good too, cuz we're awesome like that, same with glorklogicticus wrote:BTW: The odds of picking three people at random and they are scum are (Excluding yourself, but including the person who was nightkilled)
(3/9)*(2/8)*(1/7) = 1.2%
Excluing the people that you cleared earlier:
(3/7)*(2/6)*(1/5)=2.9%
Not so good.
so
(3/5)*(2/4)*(1/3)=10%
plus im a baller
so there
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I wouldn't discount 10% odds...it's possible. And of course, they weren't picked at random; the most scummy people yesterday were investigated...that would bump it up some more. And then throw in a couple extra characters that always come up guilty, it seems reasonable that 3 guilties could come up.
This role is also a lot more powerful then it might have been, because it could take several nights to figure out which number is sane.
This role is also a lot more powerful then it might have been, because it could take several nights to figure out which number is sane.
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Eh, even if Fritzler's lying or misinformed, Lucresia's not doing such a great job defending herself.
Especially because she said
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Especially because she said
Which is just ridiculous. If the first person we kill turns out to be innocent, we're not going to keep blindly following Fritzler.And if we do believe this role, and if it really is fake (which I believe it is), we will end up with 4 innocent deaths.
oh no
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What I am saying is if we believe fritzler of his role, and kill one of three people and either of them end up being innocent, I can perfectly well see the town being sketical but still going along with fritzler to check his sanity. which ends up being 4 kills, one for the lynch today, another for tonight the going along with him one more time for sanity reasons, then another night kill. I'm not trying to say that the rest of the town is dumb, just that I can see alternative motives behind fritzler. However I unvoted fritzler a bit ago, because I am beginning to think there is a possibility that he does have this role, but his role having a sanity drawback he is unaware of such as what ibaesha stated earlier.help im a bug wrote: Which is just ridiculous. If the first person we kill turns out to be innocent, we're not going to keep blindly following Fritzler.
This also brings up the possibility of his character not liking three people and he happens to pick all three people? unlikely. So with that I have to give anIbaesha wrote:Basically the individual gets guilty on everyone they don't like regardless of sanity and the person's alignment. I see this as something that addresses the overpoweredness we're assuming the role has.
FOS: Micigante and CaptainDuctTape
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Does that mean that you now believe Friztler's role and think that you are one of these "always guilty" people?Lucresia wrote:This also brings up the possibility of his character not liking three people and he happens to pick all three people? unlikely. So with that I have to give anFOS: Micigante and CaptainDuctTape
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vote: Lucresia
Reasons already mentioned plus latching onto my
theory
and FOSing the other two candidates without much reason to. If we're to lynch one of the three today, I think it should be her. I think she's squirming scum. I suppose at least she's putting up a fight, while the other two aren't. This all makes me wonder if Fritz really did just manage to peg all 3 scum.Sorry for not posting yet. Now I don’t have enough time to reed everything with the needed attention, however I won’t vote for someone before doing a re-read, because I know I’m not guilty, and so it’s quite likely that there’s something in fritzler’s role that doesn’t work as we expected.
However I find very scummy lucresia and CaptainDukeTape because they voted for Fritzler, that is the one who brought us to lynch a SK on day one. If Monty would have turned out to be scum, now I would be suspicious about Fritzler, but since Monty was SK, Fritzler is definitely a cop.
Now I have to go, I’ll write again this evening or tomorrow..
However I find very scummy lucresia and CaptainDukeTape because they voted for Fritzler, that is the one who brought us to lynch a SK on day one. If Monty would have turned out to be scum, now I would be suspicious about Fritzler, but since Monty was SK, Fritzler is definitely a cop.
Now I have to go, I’ll write again this evening or tomorrow..
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I did a re-read:
Lucresia is definitely the most scummy in this game, not because of Frtiz investigation, but because:
1) She voted for fritzler who is a confirmed cop
2) This sentence is very scummy:
so
For what concern this:
Lucresia is definitely the most scummy in this game, not because of Frtiz investigation, but because:
1) She voted for fritzler who is a confirmed cop
2) This sentence is very scummy:
3) Her Fos against me and CDT doesn’t make much sense:Lucresia wrote:I believe that you will have us waste a kill today and will strike tonight and the next day say "oh maybe I wasn't sane" and we will waste another day lynch and will cost us another night kill for an easy 4 more kills.
Lucresia wrote: This also brings up the possibility of his character not liking three people and he happens to pick all three people? unlikely. So with that I have to give anFOS: Micigante and CaptainDuctTape
so
Vote:Lucresia
For what concern this:
You should remember that Monty was a SK, not scum. Don’t you think that if I were scum, on day one, It would have been more simple to jump on monty bandwagon in a blink of an eye, without questioning? There was no reason for a scum to put up a fight in that situation, that’s why I’m still suspicious about those people who blindly followed your results on day one, avoiding all kinds of discussion. I wrote those things, because I just wanted to have more information about other players before ending the first day.Fritzler wrote:micigante's 1 post was like beep beep beep scumdaribaesha wrote:Why?Fritzler wrote:really? I still find micigante scummier than either of them
I think I didn’t understand well your theory about Fritz’s role (probably because of my very little knowledge of English) could you explain better what you meant with “character doesn’t like”?ibaesha wrote:
If #1 Naive (except guilty on those character doesn't like)
If #2 Insane (except guilty on those character doesn't like)
If #3 Sane (except guilty on those character doesn't like)
If #4 Paranoid (except guilty on those character doesn't like)
I'm sure the recurring theme is obvious there. My cop role was set up this way in Freaktown 1 but I didn't know it. (I also only got 1 choice per night) Fritz would not be aware of this either. Basically the individual gets guilty on everyone they don't like regardless of sanity and the person's alignment.
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Ok. I think I’ve understood!ibaesha wrote:Hmm. I'm not sure how to explain that differently. Everytime I try to reword it, it sounds like the same thing.
Whoever Fritz is (his role), might not get along with or dislike certain other people in Freaktown.
So we can’t be sure about both armolx and helpimabug innocence because they could be scum
AND
people that fritzer likes at the same time. Isn’t it?Lazio-o-o sul prato verde vola-a-a! lazio-o-o tu non sarai mai solaaaaa!!
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I agree. Whether or not Fritz's investigations are correct, a Lucreasia lynch can't be a bad thing.
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8:45AM Vote Count
Fritzler: 1 (CaptainDuctTape)
Lucresia: 6 (Fritzler, help im a bug, ibaesha, micigante, bigAl, armlx)
Not Voting: 2 (logicticus, Lucresia)
5 to lynch
NOTE: i said i wouldnt count your vote if you havnt done your day action. so there is not lynch yet. plus since you all forgot then there will be no lynch untill lunch. so you can do your day actions and offically lynch someone, but the lynch wont go through. not untill its noon. im trying to stress how important i think your day actions are.
EDIT: for armlx's vote.
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That's not what I said, but your attempt to deflect suspicion is noted.micigante wrote:Ok. I think I’ve understood!ibaesha wrote:Hmm. I'm not sure how to explain that differently. Everytime I try to reword it, it sounds like the same thing.
Whoever Fritz is (his role), might not get along with or dislike certain other people in Freaktown.
So we can’t be sure about both armolx and helpimabug innocence because they could be scumANDpeople that fritzer likes at the same time. Isn’t it?