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In post 49, Garmr wrote:Hmm I caught flareon out last game for being scum I got to say it's to early to tell if she will fall back into her habit from that game. Also I see Banksy wagon as interesting I would usually view her action as coaching but we know scum have daytalk so this makes that nonsensical. I am quite curious for the explanation she provides.
The people on the wagon-
.Ice always has crazy theories and his paranoid as hell need more time to see.
.Fferylt and Empire(street hassle) are power houses I'm a bit curious why they waited for someone else to vote Banksy first. Through it could be they had to discuss it.
. and finally You well lets find out

Lets look at your posts
Voted the biggest wagon with a boring sheeped reason while saying OH look I'm Australian using it to say there's a time difference and with your second post asked for my opinion followed by something similar to this style.

My point it's only been two pages in and were freshly out of rvs and your expecting more out of two posts when your posts have less content than mine that's a bit hypocritical. Through

Finally Orestes why would you consider Nutsy McSexytail a easy target. Currently views on her are mixed as she has people who think she is town and people who think she is scum wouldn't a easier wagon be Banksy since no one has town reads on her either null or scummy.

I could see your post as an attempt to subtly diffuse a early wagon which we could get allot of information out of or a slight chainsaw defense as I feel like your post was insinuating I was acting scummy with out directly saying so to make me unvote Nutsy McSexytail thus making it a humming chainsaw.

I would like to hear your response to this post.

In post 53, Garmr wrote:@ Nutsy McSexytail
Well I kinda thought i made it clear but if you didn't understand sorry i will try to make it clearer (The faults probably on my end because of my writing skills).

Sheeping in Rvs stage is fine because it builds wagons but what had me concerned was the fact you declared you might sheep in the future that is a odd thing to say that was my concern not the rvs sheeping itself.

Also before anyone says but you called Orestes out for sheeping he did it out the Rvs stage, the Rvs stage pretty much ended at post 35 and his vote seemed serious.

In post 62, Street Hassle wrote:

In post 45, Orestes wrote:Can't get a read on Street Hassle yet, if it were later in the day I might have to think more about following him votewise...but it's page 2 and it might be because I haven't played with a hydra before, at least not knowingly.

Why do you feel the need to justify the early game nature of your vote?

In post 70, Kid A wrote:orestes isnt scummy for bandwagoning early game hes scummy for identifying 2 ok scum suspects but voting a different person from both of them

In post 10, Squirrel Girl wrote:Well, [Ongoing] is apparently the only way I can answer that. But I don't think I'm a fan.

As for shorter, I prefer to be called 'Nutsy McSexytail' but people also seem to manage SG. Really, as long as I can tell you mean me then I'm fine with whatever.

In post 82, Herself wrote:also empire promised a snazzy night on the town and he shows up in a bathrobe, bedroom slippers and 3 day old beard? pffttt...

In post 83, Street Hassle wrote:You should read that Orestes wall, it's pretty town.

In post 84, Squirrel Girl wrote:You got an acorn of alternate viewpoints there?

In post 85, Street Hassle wrote:

In post 84, Squirrel Girl wrote:You got an acorn of alternate viewpoints there?

Yup.

I asked him the question I did in my #62 because I found that quoted line of his suspicious - it felt like he was preemptively defending himself from an accusation that might have been made against him but wasn't (e.g., the accusation that he's following a player he has no read on). I liked his response that he was just posting what was on his mind without really thinking of the consequences, shows a lack of a filter that scum usually have in place because they tend to care a lot more about the potential backlash a post can receive.

I didn't see Orestes's "fair enough" comment as an acceptance of the argument but rather more of a "I see how you got to that conclusion"-type of reaction and his explanation of why he chose to put down another vote on the Banksys wagon makes sense to me (wanting to concentrate votes onto one wagon).

I disagree completely that his post was a whole lot of nothing and I actually liked his comment that he has no problem going against a wagon on you, shows that he actually cares about his opinions even if they differ from the norm. The post was a little bit heavy on the defense and a less so on the proactive scumhunting end but I think that's an extension of the fact that he was drawing suspicion. Interested in seeing where he goes from here.

In post 86, Squirrel Girl wrote:I find it to be a hugely defensive post filled with lots of 'will explain more later' promises.

In post 87, Herself wrote:Empire this townread sucks. Can you please start doing better so that we can focus on the real threats and not get distracted by getting weird on you two? Ffery looks town and you're ruining it.

In post 62, Street Hassle wrote:

In post 45, Orestes wrote:Can't get a read on Street Hassle yet, if it were later in the day I might have to think more about following him votewise...but it's page 2 and it might be because I haven't played with a hydra before, at least not knowingly.

Why do you feel the need to justify the early game nature of your vote?

From what I remember this wasn't me trying to justify it, I just wasn't editing my thoughts because it was late and I was drunk.
I was trying to say that if I'd solidified more of a scum read on SH, if I still wanted to vote for Flareon on a wagon that I agreed with I'd be a little more careful about it than I was - as I assume anyone would be if one of their scum reads was on a wagon for another of their scum reads. Likewise if it were later in the day.
Probably didn't need to post it,

but like I said I wasn't editing.

In post 70, Kid A wrote:orestes isnt scummy for bandwagoning early game hes scummy for identifying 2 ok scum suspects but voting a different person from both of them

Yeah okay fair enough. However, I did still dig the Flareon wagon (will go into more next post), and while I didn't like TvK (re Garmr I was more pushing at him than declaring an actual scum read), he had no votes on him at the time and it's early game; none of my reads were at all strong enough for me to want to push a wagon of my own. I think 10 different wagons during the early game is more detrimental than helpful, so I added myself to a wagon that I liked.

In post 85, Street Hassle wrote:I didn't see Orestes's "fair enough" comment as an acceptance of the argument but rather more of a "I see how you got to that conclusion"-type of reaction and his explanation of why he chose to put down another vote on the Banksys wagon makes sense to me (wanting to concentrate votes onto one wagon).

I disagree completely that his post was a whole lot of nothing and I actually liked his comment that he has no problem going against a wagon on you, shows that he actually cares about his opinions even if they differ from the norm. The post was a little bit heavy on the defense and a less so on the proactive scumhunting end but I think that's an extension of the fact that he was drawing suspicion. Interested in seeing where he goes from here.

In post 76, Orestes wrote:Where's my attempt to 'subtly diffuse'? Are you talking about Squirrel, or have I missed a post somewhere?
If it's Squirrel, then I don't agree with the wagon and have no problem going against it. In terms of 'easy target'; I wasn't trying to refer to her as an easy target, but

voting someone for sheeping in RVS (as others have said) is an easy explanation that doesn't really require any reasoning aside from posting a wiki link, and doesn't really put yourself out at all.

In post 53, Garmr wrote:@ Nutsy McSexytail
Well I kinda thought i made it clear but if you didn't understand sorry i will try to make it clearer (The faults probably on my end because of my writing skills).

Sheeping in Rvs stage is fine because it builds wagons but what had me concerned was the fact you declared you might sheep in the future that is a odd thing to say that was my concern not the rvs sheeping itself.

Also before anyone says but you called Orestes out for sheeping he did it out the Rvs stage, the Rvs stage pretty much ended at post 35 and his vote seemed serious.

In post 90, Herself wrote:You said you liked this response because it showed that he didn't have a filter, which trends town for you--the problem is that he was actually telling, not showing. He also mentions again that he was drunk before. He's giving excuses and he's overemphasizing how not-worried he is about it. That's not town.

In post 90, Herself wrote:What is the difference between "okay fair enough" and "I can see how you got to that conclusion? Like, for you to even make that distinction and then pretend that it's a towntell is crazy. And your final paragraph is even worse--you "completely disagree" that his post was a whole lot of nothing, and then acknowledge that it was entirely self-defense and devoid of any scumhunting. Of course it's an extension of the fact that he's drawing suspicion--but now that he's awake and sober why is he choosing to spend his time defending himself from light suspicion in favor of looking for scum? His scumread hadn't posted since he voted him and he's arrived at no other reads.

In post 90, Herself wrote:Come on man. Why are you townreading him, really?

In post 91, Garmr wrote:I am confident this is the slot to place your vote on.

In post 94, Herself wrote:has any1 answered for the other reasons as to why there is a bw on bankerys like empire did you answer this already

In post 97, Herself wrote:

Street Hassle (1) havingfitz
Kid A (0)
TvK (0)
My Milked Eek (0)
T S O (0)
Banksys Flareon (3) ICEninja, Street Hassle, Orestes
ICEninja (1) Squirrel Girl
Garmr (1) Banksys Flareon
Squirrel Girl (Nutsy...) (0)
Orestes (3) TvK, Kid A, Garmr
Quadraxis (0)
Herself (0)
havingfitz (1) Herself

Not Voting (3) - My Milked Eek, T S O, Quadraxis

I keep looking at this list and I swear I can't remember a single thing about most of these posters.