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Funny, I usually take 'totes' with the sarcastic interpretation.
Sorta like you yanks seem to think 'could care less' is a thing without the "NOT!" on the end.

So, like, I can't help but notice that your two votes have been trad-scumtell L-2 votes.
What's your motivation here?

^@ Messiah re:

In post 74, Messiah Complex wrote:We are around. I haven't had a day off since last Thursday, so I am a bit behind in my readings. I believe Desp is working an equally shitty schedule.I have the next two days, and fiancé permitting, I should be able to provide some commentary on what's been happening. Unless we just lynch Domo first that is. Which could happen cause that guy is totes scum.

..and

-t

Trad scumtell?

My vote on you during RVS was, what I thought, an obvious joke. One that was played upon with Desps comment. I feel fine with our vote on Domo because of his stance on defending Lucky, and for his interactions with Catboi. You'll have to wait for more of an explanation since I'm unsure about your terminology.

Oh, and please don't assume that all us "Yanks" are uneducated, slack jawed, sibling fucking, illiterate hillbillies who don't realize that the saying without the not makes no sense whatsoever.

I generally just assume the sibling-fucking. No need to go nuclear about the rest Mr Honky-Tonk.

Well I was most interested in your gleeful enthusiasm for a lynch. My own inclination is to be very careful about voting. It seems like you've already decided DOMO is scum.

Let's say we lynch DOMO in the next 5 minutes. What have we learned?

FUCK

-t

Not sure where you are seeing "gleeful enthusiasm" for a lynch. You were never in danger of being lynched during RVS. Domo is still sitting at l-2 and will have plenty of time to claim when he is pushed further.

As to what we learn in the next 5 minutes, very little, only his alignment. Good thing he's not getting lynched in 5 minutes then. Domo will be run up in normal fashion, leading him to claim and we will make the decision (royal we) on what to do next. We (Desp and I) are from the school of thought that wagons and flips move the game along. We can sit here until the deadline and snipe at each other but unless someone severely slips we aren't going to get too much credible information. Wagon someone up with us and we will make dome legit moves.

I don't care how far we got pushed in RVS. If there was a five-post speedlynch then if town doesn't insta-lynch the hammerer day 2 then town in this game has some problems.

You've voted twice and both have been second votes on top of an existing vote, that's accurate, right?

There was a sense of humour in your RVS vote which I liked, a sense of 'dark impending things' in your vote on DOMO, and I don't quite grok (hi Beli) this most recent post which *still* seems to be promoting a lynch as soon as possible.

I'll wait out the day asking every question I feel is relevant to get reads, communicate my preferences for lynch and the reasons, and ask for feedback. I'll be around 24 hours before deadline. At least for a window of a few hours.

Why do you want a lynch to happen right now?
If you're town, do you have any inclination to reason on this?
I mean, running someone up is not a thing in this game.

In post 73, Adaptive Heap wrote:Why are you feeling so defensive? You're only at L-2 at the moment and the only other folks (aside from our slot) who've indicated they might want to lynch you, are already voting you.

Your entrance vote put mastin and I at L-1. I heard you when you said you had to do mental calculations on potential lylo tomorrow - I'm just surprised you didn't even think about the impact of a speedmislynch in such a small game. Or did you?

Why so defensive? I'm not used to being under immediate pressure. And no, I did not realise that I put you guys at L-1, I usually play large games and it just didn't occur to me that we could lynch so fast until ffery pointed out it's potentially lylo tomorrow. I see now why my first post was so bad.

In post 74, Messiah Complex wrote:Unless we just lynch Domo first that is. Which could happen cause that guy is totes scum.

This is unnerving. Farmerfish, right? I have no idea who you are, thus I don't expect you to know me. So why are you scumreading me so soon?

In post 78, Adaptive Heap wrote:Well I was most interested in your gleeful enthusiasm for a lynch. My own inclination is to be very careful about voting. It seems like you've already decided DOMO is scum.

Indeed.

In post 80, Messiah Complex wrote:Domo will be run up in normal fashion, leading him to claim and we will make the decision (royal we) on what to do next.

Already thinking about my claim.

AH is looking town. Can't say the same about messiah.

I'm liking catboi a little more than messiah right now.

In post 82, DOMO wrote:Already thinking about my claim.

-.-

Since when does town need to think about a claim? You claim the role you were given.

In post 84, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Since when does town need to think about a claim? You claim the role you were given.

I'm pointing out that MC is thinking about my claim already. He seems eager.

In post 45, Messiah Complex wrote:Quoted reasoning- you are finding fault with catperson for being opportunistic when you are voting the only person yet to post in the game.

Seems strange you'd type something longer than his actual name in jest. It doesn't feel natural, feels more like "hey I can't remember his name, that guy" sort of misdirection.

Yeah I'm gonna say it's catboi and MS. They're voting together, both for AH in RVS and for me now. If they can act town enough and draw enough attention to their target then maybe it's a reasonable strat in a micro.

lol

In post 73, Adaptive Heap wrote:

@Mod - is masky being replaced?

I see what you're getting at now geists with the claim comment. Read my ISO in xeno and tell me how many times you find the word "claim". I started to look for stuff to show you it's null, and after something like 10 in the first 5 posts I figure the evidence is compelling that this it's just my language.

My point was that he is thinking in terms of running people into claims.

geists = ffery, sorry I'll try not to make that slip!

In post 89, DOMO wrote:I see what you're getting at now geists with the claim comment. Read my ISO in xeno and tell me how many times you find the word "claim". I started to look for stuff to show you it's null, and after something like 10 in the first 5 posts I figure the evidence is compelling that this it's just my language.

My point was that he is thinking in terms of running people into claims.

Beli posted that. It didn't ping to me. If I didn't know you're a pretty reactive player, you'd be pinging pretty hard for other reasons about now.

I agree that's how he's thinking. It's a mindset I run into a lot at MS, and it's more feasible in small games than in large ones where the town cats all go their own ways.

In post 81, Adaptive Heap wrote:I don't care how far we got pushed in RVS. If there was a five-post speedlynch then if town doesn't insta-lynch the hammerer day 2 then town in this game has some problems.

You've voted twice and both have been second votes on top of an existing vote, that's accurate, right?

There was a sense of humour in your RVS vote which I liked, a sense of 'dark impending things' in your vote on DOMO, and I don't quite grok (hi Beli) this most recent post which *still* seems to be promoting a lynch as soon as possible.

I'll wait out the day asking every question I feel is relevant to get reads, communicate my preferences for lynch and the reasons, and ask for feedback. I'll be around 24 hours before deadline. At least for a window of a few hours.

Why do you want a lynch to happen right now?
If you're town, do you have any inclination to reason on this?
I mean, running someone up is not a thing in this game.

If you had been speedlynched then scum would be out of their mind fucking retarded. If we didn't string the hammer up the next day then scum outnumbers town in this game and we are all fucked.

Yes, going over our vote history once again because I am so fucking helpful. Catboi voted you first in RVS, you came in and voted someone else, I joke voted you for not voting yourself. You admit that you see the humor in my vote yet still seem confused by us. Our vote on Domo is due to stated reasons, and has nothing to do with how many votes were on him. If we were constantly putting people to l-1 you would have a leg to stand on with this train of thought, but we aren't so this is utter shit.

I am not promoting a lynch. I am scum reading Domo and am attempting to apply just the right enough of pressure to see how he reacts. How do you guys get to a lynch if not in this fashion? Are we seriously going to sit around until the deadline and then panic lynch someone?

We do not want a lynch to happen right now, unless it is the right one.
We are town and we have no information to go on other that what is given to us by the individuals. Right now people are going to be able to say all the right things to look town because there is nothing to go on to say otherwise.
Running people up may not be the way that you play, but that doesn't mean that it isn't going to happen. You scum hunt the way you want to, and we will follow what has worked for us in the past. If you don't like it then blow.

- First, its Formerfish, for someone who later finds it strange that I referred to Catboi as catperson maybe you should get my name right. Just fucking saying. Second, we have played together before in Oz. You weren't as much of a dick then, and I am still having trouble wrapping my head around the mechanics of that game to tell if it will be worth metaing at any point. ISO our name to figure out why we are scum reading you. It's been stated already. And yes I am thinking about your claim, How else to you suppose we can reconcile our read on you? Are you just going to talk at me until I read you differently?

In post 92, Messiah Complex wrote:You weren't as much of a dick then

I'm being a dick? Talk me through this.

In post 91, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:you'd be pinging pretty hard for other reasons about now.

Talk me through this too.

In post 92, Messiah Complex wrote:@Domo- First, its Formerfish

And yeah I know you now. I don't want to get into shit slinging. I do not intend to be a dick, so please don't interpret my comments as such.

In post 94, DOMO wrote:

In post 91, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:you'd be pinging pretty hard for other reasons about now.

Talk me through this too.

Strong reactions as the remnants of RVS fade away catch my attention. Since we've played a couple games in the past, I have a sense of your baseline reactivity. In a player I didn't know, I'd be pretty focused on figuring out what was up and would probably have pulled a few ISOs to look at some of your RVS transitions in other games.

Messiah-Fish:

In large games I've become a huge fan of running folks up - not necessarily to force a claim, but to see who joins wagons, when and why. However I tend to think in this game, that strategy will be of limited use because the maximum we could run people up to would be three votes anyway; coming from town, first votes will be suspicion-based; second votes will be either confirming that or added pressure; third votes well, that's L-1 with risk of hammer or pressure to claim. I get the feeling that the best way to play this game will be to consider votes pretty significant and also consider careful reasoned voting to be pro-town play.

I guarantee you that this slot won't be panic-voting.

Humorous intent (if it's genuine-feeling, which yours was) is something that tends town in RVS but can be manufactured relatively easily. It also doesn't guarantee that I'm therefore going to understand everything else you're saying. I'm interested in feeling out your slot a bit better, having previously played on non-town teams with both of you.

-t

In post 97, Adaptive Heap wrote:In large games I've become a huge fan of running folks up - not necessarily to force a claim, but to see who joins wagons, when and why. However I tend to think in this game, that strategy will be of limited use because the maximum we could run people up to would be three votes anyway; coming from town, first votes will be suspicion-based; second votes will be either confirming that or added pressure; third votes well, that's L-1 with risk of hammer or pressure to claim. I get the feeling that the best way to play this game will be to consider votes pretty significant and also consider careful reasoned voting to be pro-town play.

I like this. It's very similar to something beli wrote in our QT. Outside of chat games in my case, the size of this game is something new to both of us.

Oh man... Forgot this game existed for a minute.

I always have trouble reading hydras, cognitive dissonance is a bitch. I'm probably still inclined to vote scumfuck, but I would switch to Domo after the "thinking about my claim" slip. If he is a reactive player like has been claimed, isn't it likely that this was an actual slip from posting too fast? This isn't a rhetorical question btw.