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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:04 am

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: 4 (Kelly Chen, Thesp, Relyte, Cogito Ergo Sum)
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: 1 (Ixnayonthehombre)

Not voting: 6 (Save the Dragons, Maximus, Eon, Klebian, willows_weep, StallingChamp)


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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:18 am

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Heh if Maximus didnt lie about this, and if he gets lynched now you are going to fly away right after Cogito =]

Actually i really want to see you to put your vote on me tommorow.

I agree with STD on his point about "Thesp trying to turbo lynch" this is page 3 and we should talk more, but you Thesp already have plans for next day. I also want to note that im really aware of Thesps role. Danny has 2 lifes and [going to sound scummy] and i remember he did some post which was very odd
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULDN'T MAXIMUS HAVE TRIED TO BLOCK ME OR SOME OTHER NON-USEFUL NIGHTCHOICE ROLE INSTEAD. WHEN I SAW WHAT CHARACTER I WAS, I WOULD SWEAR THAT I'D BE THE SK. Blocking an information role is in no way pro-town. I think we can turbo-lynch today. Seriously
Maximus understood EVERYONE CAN BE SCUM even such role like Cogito. Heh you could swear you would get SK, well nobody is sure that you arent =] And i really dont mind testing that someday.

You know this game has 4 Killers and 5 if you are with them, right now you concentrate on killing Maximus and i actually begin to understand reason and agree with it at some points. But if he doesnt lie, then today we will just lynch person with good role. And during next day we will cry. I tell again im not SURE about Cogito and Maximus and i wont vote against any of them [unless they do something uber scummy]. Thesp you might tell the truth but you also might lie. So its hard to decide actually.

I think [scummy stuff ahead] if we keep both of them tonight we might get more info. I dont have any ideas soo i just tell random suggestions i can freely vote against anyone who i find scummy. And right now i can point finger at 3 people.

Anyway i would like to hear more information, more words from star of this day Maximus.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:31 am

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Eon wrote:Maximus understood EVERYONE CAN BE SCUM even such role like Cogito.
I'm not sure you saw the below rant when Maximus tried that same line of crap earlier. I have reprinted it for your convenience.
Thesp wrote:This is wrong in so many ways. Suppose someone was a bona-fide cop or doctor. ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SUGGESTING THAT BLOCKING THEM WOULD BE AS GOOD AN IDEA AS BLOCKING ANYONE ELSE BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST AS LIKELY TO BE SCUM??? Your line of reasoning is flawed in so many ways that I am embarrassed to quote it. You are clearly the best lynch today.
Eon wrote:I think [scummy stuff ahead] if we keep both of them tonight we might get more info.
I am convinced we will get
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Eon wrote:Anyway i would like to hear more information, more words from star of this day Maximus.
RED FLAG TIME.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:39 am

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Bah. I can't vote maximus because this'd be the hammer. I'd like some response from him, on what we're talking about: He first says that he would only block people with a power role (why the hell would you do that anyway?) and then later changes it to he's going to block everyone, and CES was the first on the list, so he "randomly" decided to block him.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:08 pm

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Well, I couldn't make up my mind at first. Whether to block power roles or just everyone and start from the top. So I agreed on the middle ground and choose CES because he has a power role AND he was the first person on the list. After awhile, I figured that it doesn't matter how powerful the night choice is, the scum alignment was assigned at random.

Vote: CES


I'm still appalled that nobody understands my point of view. I understand that my reasoning looked like it changed from post to post, but the truth is, I couldn't make up my mind on the method of roleblocking and ultimately, sorting out who is scum and who is not. That is why my logic seems to be all over the place. I apologize for the inconvience.

I pretty much gave away my anti-scum strategy, so mafia/SK will come after me tonight and kill me. Either way, I won't live to see Day 2. Unless scum wants to keep me alive so that I can be lynched on Day 2.

So overall, I'm not going to survive this game, am I? :(

Anyway, you have all the facts, folks. In any case, either town or scum is going to get me either today, tonight, or tomorrow.

The middle ground here would be to keep both CES and me alive, and let me reblock CES tonight. If we get one kill tomorrow, we know for a fact that CES is scum. I'm sorry, but if you can't follow this logic, then you are most likely drunk. :p I kid, I kid. Calm down. I'm not insulting anyone's intelligence. ;)

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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:38 pm

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Maximus wrote:Well, I couldn't make up my mind at first. Whether to block power roles or just everyone and start from the top.
Why would you even want to block someone for having a power role? What can scum do with a tracking ability?
So overall, I'm not going to survive this game, am I? :(
Are you SK or something? Why would you be thinking about surviving the whole game?

Anyway being a blocker your odds of surviving the game are zeroish with two scum parties.
The middle ground here would be to keep both CES and me alive, and let me reblock CES tonight. If we get one kill tomorrow, we know for a fact that CES is scum. I'm sorry, but if you can't follow this logic, then you are most likely drunk.
It wouldn't prove anything... Scum could use this plan to frame CES, or they could inadvertently hit the same target again.


Eon, I'm understand the desire to prolong the day to have more discussion, but I don't see what good it can do us if a majority of us come to an agreement on the only issue we can usefully discuss (the lynch today).
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:41 pm

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But how is blocking night action roles beneficial? Those roles have the same likelihood as non-night action roles, and night-actions are beneficial for the town!
If anything at random, you should've randomlyl chosen a role that DOESN'T have a night action... because you have just as much of a chance of blocking a kill that way as you do blocking a role that does have a night action.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:27 pm

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Sorry I have not posted in a while, it was both Thanksgiving and my birthday this weekend.

Anyways, Maximus is clearly the lynch for today so i will
Vote: Maximus
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btw, no one targetted me last night.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:29 pm

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Ah that reminds me... Do we want to know what Relyte did?
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:37 pm

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What do you mean? As in mason-wise? Whom I chose?
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:03 pm

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Right. Can you think of any reason not to tell us? I'm not sure myself..
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:43 pm

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I don't either.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:03 pm

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Nor can I. I chose Klebian.

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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:48 pm

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Okay, thanks. Hammer time.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:40 pm

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You're willing to hammer the roleblocker in such little discussion?

And what course of action should we take if he turns up innocent?
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:07 pm

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It's true there hasn't been much discussion, but what is there to talk about other than the lynch choice?

Sadly if Maximus is town, I don't think this will particularly implicate anyone. Maybe we'll have to have a random voting phase tomorrow.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:49 pm

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Kelly Chen wrote:
Save The Dragons wrote:My FOS on Cogito was because it seemed interesting he targeted Maximus, like it could be a fake result and he's trying to cast suspcion on him.
What does this mean? CES could claim he targeted anyone and we wouldn't know if it was true (unless we lynch that person and I survive the night).
If I was CES and scum and didn't target someone, a visceral response to make Maximus appear more damning would be to say you targeted him.

It's barely anything. I seriously FOSed everyone without going back and thinking.

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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:42 pm

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Thesp seriously, i dont know if he is scum or no. If he is going to turn up scum well i will understand some of reason to lynch me next turn.
Im really interested in his role right now, Maximus if you are going to tell your side now before death scene ill give you a proper funeral!

Anyway Kelly you do understand me, we have 3 scums but i also understand that this lynch is going to give us some ideas for next day. And i really hope we hanged RIGHT person and not townie.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:11 am

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Great, someone we all find something sketchy about.
In that respect I feel we've had a lot of discussion. It's just been narrow, which isn't too bad. Especially when there is agreement.

Btw, my general online times are: 8am-8pm, and within that interval it is sporadic, but lasts about 1hr or 2.

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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:39 am

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Maximus
: 6 (Kelly Chen, Thesp, Relyte, Cogito Ergo Sum, StallingChamp, Save the Dragons)
Cogito Ergo Sum
: 2 (Ixnayonthehombre, Maximus)

Not voting: 3 (Eon, Klebian, willows_weep)

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Maximus is Lynched


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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:13 pm

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You wake up and see, like,
two
dead bodies, right there in front of you. The first is the sweet, innocent, romantic girl you all feared would become obsessed with you one day. Turns out you had something to fear after all...

Willows_weep (AKA Bethany the Lover) dies, night 2. She was Scum.


The other corpse is a staid, middle-aged lady who poked her nose where it didn't belong. Apparently she did the same with the switchblade in her left hand...

Cogito Ergo Sum (AKA Maude the tracker) dies, night 2. She was the SK


With 8 living, it's 5 to lynch.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:47 pm

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Wow, lucky much?
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:53 pm

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Wow.

Well, for whatever it's worth, CES did target Maximus. Track or kill, I'd doubt both.

Thoughts at the moment

Eon: I have some trouble believing Eon would play as he did if he were partners with Maximus. Too overt.

Ixnay: one post, votes CES. excuse for why he hadn't posted and shows some uncertainty about what's going on. that's here

klebian: also had the "he only had 4 choices for blocking" misconception, but also called Maximus on not listing the watcher as a block choice. He also seemed more concerned about whether his double vote could be blocked. His last post isn't too good to me (hammer our blocker already?) but on the whole I think he's OK.

Relyte: in his few posts does not to me come across as backing Maximus. His first post (page 2) votes him.

STD: Don't like him much so far. He did hammer Maximus, but that doesn't mean much. He opened with an Ixnay vote (acknowledging the weird block), FOSd Eon for one of his first posts ("Other than that I think that post had as many scumtells as I've ever seen in a single post."), voted CES (in a reply to Maximus; says he was going to point out the "Cogito thing" also; but questions Maximus' decision in the same post (which is here)). One of STD's posts explains his FOS list to "w_w"; I'm not sure if this itself is indicative of anything.

StallingChamp: not a lot to say. Not very suspect to me as his few words were along the same lines I was thinking.

Thesp: definitely smart enough to predict needing to throw Maximus under the bus. Being willing to hammer Eon seems pro-town, though. I wonder if Thesp is still interested in this plan.

vote: Save The Dragons

FOS: Ixnay
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:19 pm

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lmao. We got 1 to go now.

Wait. So your case against me is:

STD hammered scum, could be bussing. STD threw FOSs around. STD explained FOSs to W_scum. hmm. rather circumstantial.

I'll give you the vote Cogito while doubting Maximus thing. I was just trying to get to the bottom of what was going on.

It does look like CES's kill was blocked.

I'm definately fine with Thesp hammering Eon. If you guys desire, I'd even be willing to hammer Eon, since my role is not all too helpful, since scum can't even dominate the lynch anymore.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:43 pm

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PBPA of STD:

all posts paraphrased

0: I agree with Kelly, what's with blocking the tracker? vote ixnay for being untargetable. sk: pls kill Eon.

1: mod, were alignments distributed independently of roles? lots of scum tells from Eon. FOS Eon

2: (to Maximus) you wanted to block a power role so we'd have less info? I was going to point out the CES thing. vote CES

3: unvote, FOS Thesp CES Maximus Eon
[maybe you get points for this unvote]

4: mod, can the SK kill and make a move?

5: you think I read the rules?

6: explanation of FOSs to w_w. Includes the craplogic that CES could have claimed he tracked Maximus in order to make Maximus look suspicious.

7: explains the CES thing was very weak. hammers Maximus.


It looks to me like you were not very keen on going after Maximus even when you noted his odd behavior.
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