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↑ Primate wrote:BoL, do you have a specific reason for assuming this game is badly designed enough for flavour claim to benefit the town more than the mafia? I'm not referring to role based stuff, more mod and general mini theme knowledge. Is it still normal for this to be the case?

The way Mathdino was like "if they don't have fakeclaims" was really weird since there's always fakeclaims, so that made us (okay it was Nacho) think that Aronis didn't provide fakeclaims

↑ Primate wrote:BoL, do you have a specific reason for assuming this game is badly designed enough for flavour claim to benefit the town more than the mafia? I'm not referring to role based stuff, more mod and general mini theme knowledge. Is it still normal for this to be the case?

It's not general to be the case.
The reason I wanted Mathdino to claim flavor is because his assumption that scum didn't have fakeclaims and thus Grey might be confirmed town seemed strange to me and I wanted to see how he would react if I asked him to claim flavor. He reacted poorly.

This is my first theme game of this type. My bad on the misunderstanding.

Yeah, I'm still not doing it. Seems too advantageous for scum.

VOTE: Burgers

Slow down with the posting!!

You're right, but that's ONLY if everyone is willing to do so, and that's clearly not true. The way you're doing things, we're not outing anyone as scum.

↑ The Burgers of Llamarble wrote:

↑ Mathdino wrote:Because this is a theme game and some characters are more powerful than others. I have reason to believe that the scum could figure out what I do if I claim flavour.

Stop digging this hole deeper. I'm claiming nothing.

This doesn't match with wanting a mass flavor claim
Which you did

This is the post I was referring to above.

↑ Mathdino wrote:You're right, but that's ONLY if everyone is willing to do so, and that's clearly not true. The way you're doing things, we're not outing anyone as scum.

Why does everyone need to claim? If scum don't have fakeclaims, scum wouldn't be able to fakeclaim. You're not claiming despite not giving any actually good reasons not to.

"Flavor might reveal roles, so we shouldn't flavor claim unless we ALL do it."
Right

↑ Mathdino wrote:You're right, but that's ONLY if everyone is willing to do so, and that's clearly not true. The way you're doing things, we're not outing anyone as scum.

If you're willing to claim once everyone is, say "I'm willing to claim" or something.

I'm willing to claim. or something.

The way to catch scum is by forcing them to flavor claim before Aronis sends them fakeclaims. This is why your stalling is scummy.

↑ The Burgers of Llamarble wrote:"Flavor might reveal roles, so we shouldn't flavor claim unless we ALL do it."
Right

This also literally makes no sense in any world.

↑ Mathdino wrote:Because this is a theme game and some characters are more powerful than others. I have reason to believe that the scum could figure out what I do if I claim flavour.

This isn't a good reason?

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

↑ Mathdino wrote:Because this is a theme game and some characters are more powerful than others. I have reason to believe that the scum could figure out what I do if I claim flavour.

This isn't a good reason?

See 81 and 83

↑ The Burgers of Llamarble wrote:

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

↑ Mathdino wrote:Because this is a theme game and some characters are more powerful than others. I have reason to believe that the scum could figure out what I do if I claim flavour.

This isn't a good reason?

See 81 and 83

Or, better yet, why do you think that Mathdino as town wanted a mass flavor claim if he thought it would out a lot of power roles?

↑ The Burgers of Llamarble wrote:

↑ The Burgers of Llamarble wrote:

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

↑ Mathdino wrote:Because this is a theme game and some characters are more powerful than others. I have reason to believe that the scum could figure out what I do if I claim flavour.

This isn't a good reason?

See 81 and 83

Or, better yet, why do you think that Mathdino as town wanted a mass flavor claim if he thought it would out a lot of power roles?

That's what I was saying!

So everyone here claims. Everyone else joins the thread a few hours later and they decide not to claim.

How do we feel about that?

PEdit - You're the one pushing a mass claim. Not Math.

↑ The Burgers of Llamarble wrote:

↑ The Burgers of Llamarble wrote:"Flavor might reveal roles, so we shouldn't flavor claim unless we ALL do it."
Right

This also literally makes no sense in any world.

Because if not everyone's willing to do it, then we're left with a pool of people who the mafia don't know the roles of, and a pool of people the mafia could shoot based on who's is at the top of the IMDB character list.

I wasn't aware there were fakeclaims in themes, which is why I left the possibility open. I didn't in any way assume there were fakeclaims, and like I said, if there are, you're seriously screwing us over right now.

Edit: I wanted a discussion of a massclaim. Quote the part where I said I wanted a massclaim to happen right now.

By the By, Nacho. I just spent a week with UK and Shadoweh, and it was awesome~.

↑ Lady Lambdadelta wrote:By the By, Nacho. I just spent a week with UK and Shadoweh, and it was awesome~.

I'm going to have to go to class soon. Could you take over for me?

I am Groot

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:So everyone here claims. Everyone else joins the thread a few hours later and they decide not to claim.

How do we feel about that?

PEdit - You're the one pushing a mass claim. Not Math.

I don't get why we would do your idea.

We both are.

↑ Mathdino wrote:

↑ The Burgers of Llamarble wrote:

↑ The Burgers of Llamarble wrote:"Flavor might reveal roles, so we shouldn't flavor claim unless we ALL do it."
Right

This also literally makes no sense in any world.

Because if not everyone's willing to do it, then we're left with a pool of people who the mafia don't know the roles of, and a pool of people the mafia could shoot based on who's is at the top of the IMDB character list.

I wasn't aware there were

always

fakeclaims in themes, which is why I left the possibility open. I didn't in any way assume there were fakeclaims, and like I said, if there are, you're seriously screwing us over right now.

Edit: I wanted a discussion of a massclaim. Quote the part where I said I wanted a massclaim to happen right now.

omg why is this three paragraphs long
I don't wanna do this one

I don't get why ScumMathDino'd think "I wasn't given a false claim, I'm just going to go into the thread and suggest that massclaim would break the game" then "softclaim" a couple of posts. If anything that seems the action of a scumguy that definitely has a falseclaim and wants to out power.

Yes I know three isn't a lot of paragraphs and they're not long paragraphs and it wouldn't be hard

↑ The Burgers of Llamarble wrote:

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:So everyone here claims. Everyone else joins the thread a few hours later and they decide not to claim.

How do we feel about that?

PEdit - You're the one pushing a mass claim. Not Math.

I don't get why we would do your idea.

We both are.

That's not my idea. I'm saying what would happen if that happened

If you could quit your strongarming, that'd be nice. It's not convincing anyone.

You could also cut down on the tons of short posts and fluffy posts so people can actually read and post. But in this case, unlike LLD, you actually ARE cutting down on discussion and communication with your "MASSCLAIM MUST HAPPEN BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD".

Burgers is scummy and at the very least anti-town. I can forgive you misinterpreting my "assumption" but not this BS. Discuss.

It's convinced me. You are having cognitive dissonance in your posts and Nacho found it.