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↑ TierShift wrote:Tbh scum is probably within the fencesitters that all called me town

Ok, I disagree with you on thinking I overreacted, but I agree on this last remark.

Having said that, if someone is fencesitting here it is BRantz, so I'd like to put some pressure on him by:

↑ VysePresident wrote:@BRantz - Why no thoughts on the wagon? I'm kinda surprised to see you not weighing in here, especially compared to last game. Holding my vote for now.

@Cyrus/Vyse: So I was waiting for Willow to get back before commenting on the wagon, and now get home from work to find two more pages (which is a hell of a lot faster than anything progressed in the newbie game I just finished, which I like). I wanted to see what Willow had to say about the wagon/speculation around his first post because it influences what people are doing on the wagon. So here are my reads on all of that.

Sordros: I don't find his initial reactions scummy, I like that he is trying to create dialogue, and gain information. But after failing to do that I find it kind of strange how he just sort of completely changes tactics and says he is okay with all of it. It seems very strange, but I don't know that it is scummy. Nullish leaning town for now.

mykonian: He was on the wagon, while actually apparently trying to distract from it by engaging dave about completely irrelevant things, and seems to have no interest in scum hunting at all. Seems fairly scummy so far to me.

Tier: I like Tier for actually trying to push the game, get people talking, and get more information out in the open. That being said, I'm not sure I believe that the whole thing was a reaction test for him. I like the pressure he put on dave, but am uncertain about the immediate unvote afterward. Null for now.

Willow: This play is pretty much in line with how he played as town in the newbie game I was just in with him, so I like that. He can be town for now.

Dave: Also is playing a lot like he did as town in the newbie we were just in, but he didn't bend to people pressuring him in that game like he just did to Tier. Mildly scummy for now.

VOTE: mykonian

Reads on those off the wagon:

Cyrus: I don't like that he spent four posts saying basically the same thing (all about it being a day vs night start), in one of which he threw in a sentence about not finding Sordros scummy. But otherwise avoided interacting with the wagon at all. Null.

FuDuzn: Not really enough info to go off of to make a read on him yet. I like the reasoning in his post voting dave though.

Vyse: Vyse seems town so far, but his play is similar to the newbie game where he was scum, and I was town reading him most of the way there until he defended his scum buddy until she died. Mild town read for now.

@dave: Scum in one of which four?

@vyse: Sorry I was away at work sweetie.

↑ davesaz wrote:Fine, whatever.

I bet there's scum in one of those four.

UNVOTE:

Wait, what?

Why the f did you unvote?

↑ sordros wrote:

↑ TierShift wrote:Tbh scum is probably within the fencesitters that all called me town

Ok, I disagree with you on thinking I overreacted, but I agree on this last remark.

I don't think you overreacted either, I was just pushing you to see who'd hop on the wagon. I don't really have a read on you atm, all you've done is defend yourself, which is null.

↑ VysePresident wrote:-I'm getting a mild scum read from sordos at this point, partly for the shift in tone Willow & Tier are referring to,

I hate this because I don't thnk there's actually been a change in tone. To me, this shows that he's not really evaluating the game and just goes with the suspicion other people put on players, which is scummy as hell.

(2): VysePresident, sordros
(2): FuDuzn, mykonian
(1): TierShift
(1): BRantz
(1): Whomping Willow
(1): Cyrus

(1): davesaz

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

: (expired on 2014-12-26 06:44:58)

guys.

why aren't we lynching dave? Even if you aren't interested in him, that vote was all kinds of terrible.

@bob, I think I voted for davesaz. What are the limits of that votecounter?

VOTE: Dave

None of this curtailing to pressure so easily was present in the other game, and the weird waffly politiciany evasive responses are bad aswell

VOTE: Dave

None of this curtailing to pressure so easily was present in the other game, and the weird waffly politiciany evasive responses are bad aswell

VOTE: TierShift

Town don't lie, this vote parks.

I asked you a question: why did you unvote?

Why did you lie?

Phone posting.

VOTE: Dave. Seems to me to be bowing to any pressure to avoid attention, and the vote on TierShift just seems desperate.

I'm town, but lynch me if you must.

Wonder how long it will take this site to recognize that an honest player can be town. Read what I posted that way and tell me how it's scummy in any way.

Shit.

My vote is L-1 y'all.

One of the 4 was sordros, Willow, myko, TierShift. I voted TierShift on principle that it was pretty scummy to lie about being serious about sordros, just to try to bait me into voting.

I was totally serious about my vote on sordros to L-1. There were some aspects of sordros's reaction that made me think scum, and I did believe that Willow could claim like that in order to try to provoke a response. There was no bowing to pressure involved, and I was actually working out scenarios like I said I was.

I was also serious about the scenario where Willow could be scum, joking a cop claim to try to get a counter.

And myko's approach to the wagon could be the one scum aiming to be there when the 2nd one hammers. Myko can say he was just playing along with the joke, and the hammer can say they believed either me or Tier whichever is more plausible.

I'm nearly certain the other scum is outside those 4.

Now, I suggest unvoting before scum wake up and see they have a mislynch on a silver platter.

BTW, I haven't counted votes, so don't know if it's really L-1 or Cyrus trying to spook me into claiming.

Willow's was the third vote and mine was the fourth. It's 5 to lynch.

Anyone who hammers without stating intent will get people looking at them sideways. I don't think you should claim unless someone gives intent.

I do think you should explain why you unvoted sordros. Also, if Tiershift's reaction test was scummy, do you think Willow's pseudo claim was too? After all, I'm pretty sure Willow isn't a cop and that makes the pseudo claim a lie.

On the unvote, I planned to switch votes at the time but then couldn't decide who to switch to.

Didn't I just say that Willow's joke / pseudo claim puts him in the possible scum pile? I was more upset with Tier at the time. Willow's more likely, TBH.

But I'm in no hurry to switch. Mustn't look like I'm bowing to pressure.

I never claimed cop. My post just had some weird formatting issues.