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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:07 am
by Rufus Delorian
Since I know I'm town, someone making a bad case against me seems scummy to me, you all don't know I'm town so I accept I might be biased.

I already pointed out that kagesong's case was flawed because it relies on crap reasoning: statement sounds towny, scum want to seem towny so he's scum

Seriously, is accepting possible mistakes in reasoning scummy now? I really don't get how this works.

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:27 am
by notachipmunk
Well the case itself against you means omg attack Rufus, then the attacker sounds scummy too so omg attack the attacker, and suddenly everyone is guilty.

Rufus Delorian wrote:

I already pointed out that kagesong's case was flawed because it relies on crap reasoning: statement sounds towny, scum want to seem towny so he's scum


But if kagesong knows that you know that their case is flawed and is therefore towny sounding so you would assume scum and then because you know that they know this, then the supposed scum can be viewed as a towny who will assume you figured that chain of town/scum trickery but is still secretly scum. or maybe town? andd now my brain hurts.

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:28 am
by kirroha
^ WIFOM.

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:32 am
by notachipmunk
I legit just learned that WIFOM abbreviation like a day before I even signed up for this game and was linked the video or its origination lol. But it's just so much more fun to type out the nonsense.

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:35 am
by guttsa
Reubus Swagrid wrote:Quiz time
What is your favorite joke?

This is hard. I can't think of a joke that beats all the others, so I'll have to skip that question.
Reubus Swagrid wrote:What is the longest amount of time you have ever stayed awake?

36 hours without rest.
Reubus Swagrid wrote:What is your worst fear?

Spiders, I've arachnophobia. I hate them so much...
Reubus Swagrid wrote:Icecream or Pizza?

Pizza. Nothing with meat, since I'm vegetarian. My favorite is four-cheese pizza. :]
Reubus Swagrid wrote:If you could have only one meal for the rest of your life, what would it be?
Rice and beans, no doubt. It's delicious! I don't think I'll ever get tired of the flavor of this dish.
Reubus Swagrid wrote:If you became a multi-millionaire overnight, what would you buy?

A house with enough rooms for my sister, mother, and with a very large garden for my two dogs. I'd also buy a yatch with jacuzzi (something similar to this: https://www.navis-yacht-charter.com/ima ... -Night.jpg).

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:06 am
by kirroha
No more answering the questions, please. They don't help us get anywhere with this game because they're all unrelated. All they do is allow scum to lie low and create more pointless pages to read.

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:07 am
by kirroha
In fact, welcome back guttsa.

I still don't like your first post. What's with the buddying up to the IC?

VOTE: guttsa

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:58 am
by guttsa
I don't like your first post either.
I don't think it was an innocent, random vote.
I think you're trying to pass by the radar undetected. You want the arrows pointing to other people (Drixx, me), but never to you.
You never gave me reason to trust you, quite the contrary.

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:09 am
by kirroha
Wait, what? So all votes during RVS are random, UNLESS they are on the IC, upon which it is suddenly someone "trying to pass by the radar undetected"?

Everyone we caught scum here.

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:17 am
by guttsa
First of all, I'm newbie at this game (my first mafia game), so it's possible I'm saying something stupid.
It's a bit suspicious how
intense
is your rage at me, if I end up dead, things will turn ugly for you (my innocence will be proven)!
Nice of you, putting a rope in your neck, so soon in the game.
Apparently I was right about you being an unstable individual. xD

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:24 am
by kirroha
Yeah, you are saying something pretty silly, but it's okay you're new. It's normal for people to do what you call 'rage', fyi - it's a way of applying pressure. :)

Scum is also another word for mafia in this game, so don't worry it's not a personal insult.

Anyway, since you are new, you might want to consider what are the reasons behind someone posting something before you suspect them. For example, I suspected you originally because you seemed to be 'flattering' the IC. It was common from my experience to see newbie players who are mafia to want to be on the 'good side' of experienced town players, such as town ICs, which was why I found that suspicious. That was what I called "buddying up to the IC".

On the other hand, I saw no reason for your vote on me. If I were scum, why would I post with "intense rage"? It would be counter-productive, since that would only attract attention (which mafia wouldn't want) as well as antagonize a town player (which mafia, again, wouldn't want since my aim would be to stay as out of sight as possible). So is there a reason behind your vote for me, or are you voting for me just because you think I am an 'unstable individual' (I am not unstable, that's a little rude of you, but even if I was, how would being 'unstable' as a person affect whether I am town or not?).

I hope that helped you learn more about the game and think through your reads!

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:37 am
by Drixx
literallypam wrote:
Drixx wrote:
literallypam wrote:I figured anyway, but can you explain what exactly makes you think that?


Can you answer my earlier question?


Which one? I thought I had


You said that it looked like many people wanted to vote me but were scared. I asked you to point out where someone had indicated a desire to vote for me and what made you think they were scared.

Chop Chop.

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:49 am
by guttsa
kirroha wrote:Yeah, you are saying something pretty silly, but it's okay you're new. It's normal for people to do what you call 'rage', fyi - it's a way of applying pressure. :)

Scum is also another word for mafia in this game, so don't worry it's not a personal insult.

Anyway, since you are new, you might want to consider what are the reasons behind someone posting something before you suspect them. For example, I suspected you originally because you seemed to be 'flattering' the IC. It was common from my experience to see newbie players who are mafia to want to be on the 'good side' of experienced town players, such as town ICs, which was why I found that suspicious. That was what I called "buddying up to the IC".

On the other hand, I saw no reason for your vote on me. If I were scum, why would I post with "intense rage"? It would be counter-productive, since that would only attract attention (which mafia wouldn't want) as well as antagonize a town player (which mafia, again, wouldn't want since my aim would be to stay as out of sight as possible). So is there a reason behind your vote for me, or are you voting for me just because you think I am an 'unstable individual' (I am not unstable, that's a little rude of you, but even if I was, how would being 'unstable' as a person affect whether I am town or not?).

I hope that helped you learn more about the game and think through your reads!

Thanks for that.
I've suffered with bullying for some years, so some words hurt me more because of that.
Like I said, it's my first game, I didn't even knew what RVS meant. Thankfuly I found this link:
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Random_Vote
UNVOTE: kirroha

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:01 am
by kirroha
You should probably still vote! :)

I'm going back to look at kagesong's posts in the meantime.

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:05 am
by kirroha
Both Rufus and kagesong feel like a slight town lean at this point in time.

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:06 am
by guttsa
VOTE: hawkleader3
Nothing personal, but I feel something wrong with the player.
Maybe he is mostly lurking (like I was doing), or he's trying to hide himself.
Let's see what he has to say.

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:06 am
by literallypam
Drixx wrote:
literallypam wrote:
Drixx wrote:
literallypam wrote:I figured anyway, but can you explain what exactly makes you think that?


Can you answer my earlier question?


Which one? I thought I had


You said that it looked like many people wanted to vote me but were scared. I asked you to point out where someone had indicated a desire to vote for me and what made you think they were scared.

Chop Chop.


You can try to blow this up but a bunch of people voted for you d1. I guess it's my fault because I was busy that day and in a hurry that I didn't read more, but I figured there was some reason based on something you said that I didn't have time to look for.

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:08 am
by literallypam
Drixx wrote:[quote="In

Chop Chop.


Also, seriously?

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:09 am
by literallypam
Rufus is my current townread at the moment, he seems to be most actively calling out what he sees are scumtells.

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:32 am
by Rufus Delorian
Hawkleader has been pretty quiet, 2 posts so far, I'm up for vote-poking.

VOTE: Hawkleader3

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:05 pm
by Drixx
literallypam wrote:
Drixx wrote:
literallypam wrote:
Drixx wrote:
literallypam wrote:I figured anyway, but can you explain what exactly makes you think that?


Can you answer my earlier question?


Which one? I thought I had


You said that it looked like many people wanted to vote me but were scared. I asked you to point out where someone had indicated a desire to vote for me and what made you think they were scared.

Chop Chop.


You can try to blow this up but a bunch of people voted for you d1. I guess it's my fault because I was busy that day and in a hurry that I didn't read more, but I figured there was some reason based on something you said that I didn't have time to look for.


Ummm... what? Two people voted for me. They were both RVS votes.

You said that several other people wanted to vote me but were afraid to do so. I'm asking you to back that statement up and you reply with this?

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:40 pm
by Reubus Swagrid
kirroha wrote:Wait, what? So all votes during RVS are random, UNLESS they are on the IC, upon which it is suddenly someone "trying to pass by the radar undetected"?

Everyone we caught scum here.


That's why I'm confused about pam, rufus and now guttsa.

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:50 pm
by Reubus Swagrid
Of course everyone had cleared this whole RVS voting the IC stuff except literallypam, to which he's based his vote upon. His tiny ISO and its content gives me moderate scum vibes

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:01 pm
by Reubus Swagrid
literallypam wrote:And also because it seems like everyone wants a Drixx lynch but everyone who hasn't voted is scared they'll look bad jumping on now.


literallypam wrote:VOTE: Drixx

I'm not going on much more than holy shit that wall of text.


Does anyone see the hypocrisy or the contradiction here?

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:40 pm
by kagesong
guttsa wrote:First of all, I'm newbie at this game (my first mafia game), so it's possible I'm saying something stupid.
It's a bit suspicious how
intense
is your rage at me, if I end up dead, things will turn ugly for you (my innocence will be proven)!
Nice of you, putting a rope in your neck, so soon in the game.
Apparently I was right about you being an unstable individual. xD

Truth be told, the Scum's best strategy now would be to kill you tonight. That would, by your own statement make Kirroha seem guilty, regardless of her guilt. Actually I would be more suspicious of Kirroha if you remain alive.