Mafiascum.net

How dare you just decide to go to sleep as if you're allowed to make that decision independently.

im a rebel

↑ RadiantCowbells wrote:2) Not looking for scum intent.

Why do you dislike RC's post and like kuribo's? I'm inclined to like them both (both making a good point), and they both have PRs that are ~probably~ town PRs.

Way too quick to write me off as town.
This will be especially important when I can follow up on it more later.

He crumbed it to me and it's probably town.

Because it's a really, really fucking dumb PR when it's scum.

Way too quick to assume that shit is town.

I agree but early setup spec is a pretty tempting prospect. i had the same thought about ur PR being a "towny" role tho on further thought i could also see it being like, a really loud third party? idk. guessing the mod is a bad idea but i dont see it as too scummy. it can be tempting to look for loopholes like that.

↑ RadiantCowbells wrote:

Gamma I don't think you understand how I play.

Assuming lack of understanding over scum intent immediately.

this is a decent point. and it kind of goes back to what i was poking you at for earlier; being defensive about ones own meta.

↑ RadiantCowbells wrote:
No explanation for the Maestro scumread, for the record, he just jumps right on.

I want to talk to RC about the Maestro/Nahdia stuff b/c his reaction to it was like "naw it's fine" even though there's some stuff there that clearly indicates that *something* is up.

Like what the fuck?
I AM THE ONE IN HERE WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON.
I AM THE ONE WHO KNOWS WHAT YOU HAVE ACTUALLY SAID TO EACH OTHER.

This feels so fucking scum intent trying to get traction on a wagon so he can get Maestro lynched and NK me.
I really don't like this.

ehh you kind of lost me at those last couple lines, that feels kind of a logical leap? i think his vote on Maestro could have easily just been hopping on a bandwagon for the sake of pressure. as town i tend to do that; if i see someone scumtelling a bit i just jump on their wagon if there's one already forming so the pressure on them to drop tells will be that much greater. would have been nice if he explained but that's kind of null to me.

↑ RadiantCowbells wrote:

Like, you're calling it "manipulating the gamestate," I call it "doing things."

This is so not how town would answer this.
Like, this is basically agreeing that he's manipulating the gamestate but spinning it.

not how town!RC would answer it anyway. but then i guess you've played with BRO a few times so you have meta on him? i just try to be wary of "personality tells" if that makes sense. i personally don't see much of use in the way he answered that, quoting that just feels like you're going a bit hard on the conf bias. which i mean is fine for when you're making a case, that's why i'm here to filter for you ^_^

↑ RadiantCowbells wrote:

Everyone should consider a pledge to RC a vote for me at this point b/c RC's a dick.

And this is a holy grail of bad.

What is he making a point about? That town players shouldn't pledge me because I'll vote Broseidon?
Why isn't he saying anything about, say, scum pledging me to get that lynch through to defend Maestro?
Like this feels incredibly like someone who is talking to town and knows that they are talking to town.

yeah that last quote was really defensive and bad i agree. probably the scummiest line he's dropped. i guess i can see BRO as potentially scum here. again i kind of feel like you're reaching a bit with statements like "this feels incredibly like someone who is talking to town and knows that they are talking to town" but maybe that's just me failing to grasp ur superior logikz. i didn't really get the feeling he knew he was talking to town, i just got the feeling he was frustrated with your read on him. there's a fine line between how deathtunneled town acts and deathtunneled scum acts and i think bro leans a bit towards the latter. town tends to be more incredulous and insulted, scum on the other hand just gets angry and frustrated.

The main thing is that he's just posturing in a really slimy and scummy way but I haven't addressed it yet.

I don't doubt it, I'd just warn that confbias can be strong and you should view BROs posts with an open mind. I don't object to you voting him though. After all, in the end I am just an unworthy vote slave ;p

His future posts that is. If he's posturing then it leads to something.

I'm aware that confbias can be strong but I'm reevaluating and I still come to the same conclusions that I already have.

Your current conclusions are fine :p I just tiny indications of going a bit overboard so I'm saying going forward whenever he posts look for the potential town motivation as well as scum motivation. This is all stuff you already know I'm sure, I'm just trying to be helpful and assist in you forming reads as best I can since you own my vote :c

I mean alternatively you could be scum and this could be an exercise in futility but I'm being optimistic!!!

I am looking for town motivation in his posts but I don't see any.
If you have a case for him being town I'd love to hear it but as it is scum!Bro/scum!Clumsy make way more sense than anything else.

If you look at Clumsy's most recent post it really adds fuel to the fire with the way he addresses it.

I don't have a case for town!bro but maybe I'll keep my eye out if you want me to play devil's advocate.

Anyway yeah Clumsy is awkward. This doesn't seem like the Clumsy I played with in my newbie game. Maybe his play has developed but he seems more eager to question people and less like he's just sitting back and getting a feel for the situation. Possibly because he feels pressured to look like he's participating.

If there's no followup from the questions he asks then yeah he's a good scumread.

Please hold D:

O-ok?

Where'd our pal Maestro go? :[

Oh. I didn't check the public thread first. Wonder what's up

Inb4 dayvigged

If I got daykilled, don't let anything stop you from getting rid of Bro and Clumsy.

I promise.

:/

Well at least I was right on that read

No, I was right about that read.

I own your opinions don't forget.

Oh right. Well done, Sir!!!

Yeah! I'm the best.

Hi, sorry, kinda flaked for a couple dauys there

RIP kuribo

Maestro, you never got back to me with thoughts?

↑ RadiantCowbells wrote:I think you are somewhat reaching on Trollie, yeah.

What depth of thought are you seeing in his last line exactly?

this?

Thoughts on everyone!

Especially Trollie, Broseidon, Clumsy, and now Kuroi.