Gamma Emerald's Large Normal Review

[PenguinPower]

Why was the Mafia Nea nerfed?

[RadiantCowbells]

Mafia was too stronk otherwise.

[PenguinPower]

Ah, you nerf'd the JK too.

Curious how this "willbooster" roll plays out, but I guess I'm ok with it. It will be interesting if it's the D1 lynch.

14 v 4 with this setup is probably balanced.

[PenguinPower]

Note: tracker will get no visit on a roleblocked PR

To confirm, as an example, if "the Vig" shoots player x but is roleblocked by the JK/Maf!RB/Town!WRB, player x is not killed; and, the Tracker get a "the Vig visited no one."

[Gamma Emerald]

Note: tracker will get no visit on a roleblocked PR

To confirm, as an example, if "the Vig" shoots player x but is roleblocked by the JK/Maf!RB/Town!WRB, player x is not killed; and, the Tracker get a "the Vig visited no one."

Yes

[PenguinPower]

Your ruleset is still the same as what's in 30?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yep, but probably removing the NAR point as that could be used to read into the setup

[PenguinPower]

So, you remove that, how do the multiple blocking/anti-blocking actions potentially interact? Sorry if this is redundant, but I'm just now joining.

[Gamma Emerald]

Thinking on it now if the WRB visits mafia and is not roleblocked, or attempts to visit a mafia roleblocker blocking it, it dies, but if it attempts visit mafia and the jailkeeper targets it, or it attempts to target a mafia other than the roleblocker and the mafia roleblocker targets it, it lives. Of course the willbooster targeting the WRB means if it targets mafia it dies.

[Regfan]

Still think the setup will be fairly swingy overall but that's almost always going to be the case when you have a role like tracker/vig/weak roleblocker in the game. I'd still say it's /fairly/ balanced overall and am pretty fine with it being run as is although there's a few iffy role interactions here. I'd probably suggest rephrasing the Town Non Consecutive Night Jailkeepers role PM though, it's a little unclear at the moment in my books. The rest of the role PM's seem fine.

Think for this game you should probably have both yourself and the backup mod check NAR re; the night actions submitted before starting each day phase, there's potential for mistakes here otherwise. If you ever need something checked I'm happy to be PM'ed. I'm mostly fine to /pass this unless PP has some recommended changes.

[PenguinPower]

Thinking on it now if the WRB visits mafia and is not roleblocked, or attempts to visit a mafia roleblocker blocking it, it dies, but if it attempts visit mafia and the jailkeeper targets it, or it attempts to target a mafia other than the roleblocker and the mafia roleblocker targets it, it lives. Of course the willbooster targeting the WRB means if it targets mafia it dies.

Confirming that you mean that WRB action supersedes MRB action. Also, if the Willbooster, JK, and MRB target WRB, then WRB would live.

If so, then probably just change the JK PM to read "on non-consecutive nights" to match the flow of the others, and I'm good. What about it leaves you unclear, Reg?

Swing can still be balanced and normal (learned that from my modded game), so I'm good to pass given the above.

[Regfan]

Don't want any confusion like someone thinking they can use the action every night as long as they don't target the same player back to back. Just a small wording change should suffice.

[PenguinPower]

"You may also target any player on non-consecutive nights to protect them from any kill attempts that night as well as prevent their action from executing."

Good with that?

[Regfan]

Yep.

/Pass.

[PenguinPower]

/pass

[PenguinPower]

^
Given my above clarification and JK role PM change.

[Gamma Emerald]

Confirming that you mean that WRB action supersedes MRB action. Also, if the Willbooster, JK, and MRB target WRB, then WRB would live.

Yes.

If so, then probably just change the JK PM to read "on non-consecutive nights" to match the flow of the others, and I'm good. What about it leaves you unclear, Reg?

Swing can still be balanced and normal (learned that from my modded game), so I'm good to pass given the above.

Got it on the JK wording, will fix.

[Gamma Emerald]

1 Town Willbooster

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Town Willbooster

. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to make them immune to one roleblock.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.

1 Town Weak Roleblocker

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Town Weak Roleblocker

. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to prevent their action from executing. However, if you target an antitown role you will die.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.

1 Town Non Consecutive Night Jailkeeper

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Town Non Consecutive Night Jailkeeper

. You have your voice and vote. You may also target any player on non-consecutive nights to protect them from any kill attempts that night as well as prevent their action from executing.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.

1 Town Tracker

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Town Tracker

. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to discover who they visited in the night. You will get results in the form of "X visited Y", "X visited no one", or "No result".
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.

1 Town Vigilante

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Town Vigilante

. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to attempt to kill them.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.

9 Vanilla Townies

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Vanilla Townie

. You have your voice and vote.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.

1 Mafia Roleblocker

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each night to prevent their action from executing.
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.

1 Mafia Odd Night Neapolitan

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Mafia Odd Night Neapolitan

. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each odd-numbered night to discover whether they are a Vanilla Townie or not. You will get your results in the form of "X is Vanilla Town", "X is not Vanilla Town", or "No result".
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.

2 Mafia Goons

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Mafia Goon

. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night.
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Welcome to Theatre Mafia!

Moderator: Gamma Emerald
Backup Moderator: Zaphkael
Reviewers: PenguinPower, RadiantCowbells, Regfan (with special mention to Cephrir)

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Also updated the OP with the new reviewer. Left a mention to Ceph since he was involved.

[RadiantCowbells]

Can I just real quickly suggest a minor change to the jailkeeper role PM?

I think that the word 'roleblock' should be used to make it clear later in the game that it counts as a roleblock.

[Nexus]

Please do that, Gamma.

[Gamma Emerald]

1 Town Willbooster

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Town Willbooster

. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to make them immune to one roleblock.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.

1 Town Weak Roleblocker

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Town Weak Roleblocker

. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to prevent their action from executing. However, if you target an antitown role you will die.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.

1 Town Non Consecutive Night Jailkeeper

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Town Non Consecutive Night Jailkeeper

. You have your voice and vote. You may also target any player on non-consecutive nights to protect them from any kill attempts that night as well as roleblocking them, prevent their action from executing.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.

1 Town Tracker

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Town Tracker

. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to discover who they visited in the night. You will get results in the form of "X visited Y", "X visited no one", or "No result".
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.

1 Town Vigilante

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Town Vigilante

. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to attempt to kill them.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.

9 Vanilla Townies

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Vanilla Townie

. You have your voice and vote.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.

1 Mafia Roleblocker

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each night to prevent their action from executing.
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.

1 Mafia Odd Night Neapolitan

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Mafia Odd Night Neapolitan

. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each odd-numbered night to discover whether they are a Vanilla Townie or not. You will get your results in the form of "X is Vanilla Town", "X is not Vanilla Town", or "No result".
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.

2 Mafia Goons

Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are a

Mafia Goon

. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night.
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Figured it should be clear by what the role is but tbh I think it may have been needed

[RadiantCowbells]

/pass

It's the kind of thing that will almost certainly come up if you don't use the word roleblock in the role PM. You can always answer it later but it's better to be clear.

[Gamma Emerald]

All have passed fyi