Gerrymandering Shadow Government Democracy Mafia Endgame

[Ruby Red]

pedit: are you cognizant of whom ruby-Chan IS...

I am not.

basically a god of townplay

not actually a god, but basically a god

[Ruby Red]

have you ever said this as wolf

Probably, I will check though.

Do you want me to link you my scum games?

Okay yeah, in my most recent scum game I can already see I said that I get townier the longer I live a fair bit. It's true though. You know I'm scum when I don't - as I didn't that game.

aight

right now you still look pretty wolfy

but i guess i'll be l ooking out

[Ruby Red]

i should smack u for putting me in the meta pile

i wish you could hear the sigh i just let out

im soulreading this town btw

[Not Known 15]

Hey.
I said

STOP.

And I mean stop.
Stop every single conversation you are in.

In your next post you must acknowledge and accept the rules I have laid out.
As soon as everyone has checked in and acknowledged the rules I have imposed on this game we will continue.
Yes, scumhunting and conversation are very important. But establishing this much more townsided voting system is

absolutely necessary

if we want to have an acceptable chance to win.

[Ruby Red]

nah

[Invisibility]

i wanna be a free man

[Blind Bandits]

Purrcocet I do not comprehend why you would DISLIKE being easy to read as town but I possess congition that you CAN feel this way as town so... I will simply permit and let permit

u are sayin im easy to read as scum and a loser which might b true but u could at least lie to me bc i wont lie to myself and all my friends are dead

id cry if i had any tears left for u but FYCK U TBH

Dost thou possess intendence to JOIN a patry?

we will be making a revolution for any free spirit willing to join, fuck u mean
waiting for my mans Nosferatu to get out the county, he was inprisoned for flooding the streets w nickel bags of reggie

i should smack u for putting me in the meta pile

i wish you could hear the sigh i just let out

im soulreading this town btw

meow

Hey.
I said

STOP.

And I mean stop.
Stop every single conversation you are in.

In your next post you must acknowledge and accept the rules I have laid out.
As soon as everyone has checked in and acknowledged the rules I have imposed on this game we will continue.
Yes, scumhunting and conversation are very important. But establishing this much more townsided voting system is

absolutely necessary

if we want to have an acceptable chance to win.

u doing way too much ew


even more than simyk

[Not Known 15]

Announce Candidacy

:
Creating

Better Voting Party

These are the principles of the Better Voting Party:

1.We publicly decide on a candidate to be voted upon all by majority vote.(remember we don't need to vote for someone who actually is in campaign mode)
2.No one diverts from the candidate appointed by majority vote. Doing so is a claim that your vote(in your district) came from scum.
3.No one votes twice. Voting twice is a claim that these excess votes came from scum.
4.After the candidate is selected, we all discuss who shall be lynched. We will again decide by majority - unless the candidate is confirmed town.
5.If the president mislynches someone who was not selected they are scum.
6.Scum due to 1-5 and 7-8 must be lynched first. Only exceptions are guilty results.
7.An unconfirmed President who declines to lynch scum is scum.
8.False roleclaims and fake results come only from scum.

Join now!

[Ausuka]

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Note that I'm not really scumreading FD but I'm not comfortable calling anyone scum yet so for now this will do. I don't know how to read purr but I think nosf is an easy read so that's fine.

I made a format for official campaign posts:

Code: Select all

My alignment is []
My party is called []
I/We should be president because []
My/Our policies are []
Players I am likely to execute are []

Obviously you can spice it up a bit because that's fairly boring and uncreative but I think it's a good guideline for what should be contained in a post.

I don't see much advantage in trying as hard as we can to make this a normal game of mafia with inconvenient lynching mechanics. I also don't see how electing obvtown and letting them kill without mafia evidence is worse than letting mafia vote and influence our lynch. Obviously we still do discussion as normal, just with the absence of voting for a lynch.

I don't really like any of the parties so far enough to join them but I might end up joining one at some point. Most likely is probably Ruby's but obviously anything could change.

[Edosurist]

These are the(town imposed) rules we should play with:

1.We publicly decide on a candidate to be voted upon all by majority vote.

(remember we don't need to vote for someone who actually is in campaign mode)
2.No one diverts from the candidate appointed by majority vote. Doing so is a claim that your vote(in your district) came from scum.
3.No one votes twice. Voting twice is a claim that these excess votes came from scum.
4.After the candidate is selected, we all discuss who shall be lynched. We will again decide by majority - unless the candidate is confirmed town.
5.If the president mislynches someone who was not selected they are scum.
6.Scum due to 1-5 and 7-8 must be lynched first. Only exceptions are guilty results.
7.An unconfirmed President who declines to lynch scum is scum.
8.False roleclaims and fake results come only from scum.

I'm theoretically in favor of this, except for a couple things.
1. When deciding a candidate, we should vote in order of scummiest to least scummy. That way, scum are less likely to manipulate the vote.
2. It's just more fun for the game to be chaos. I joined the game for the campaigning and intrigue. If I wanted a regular mafia game, I would've joined a regular game.

[Edosurist]

Holy shit how long did it take you to color every single letter differently?

[Ausuka]

Holy shit how long did it take you to color every single letter differently?

https://www.stuffbydavid.com/textcolorizer

[mutantdevle]

And...

Stop.

This whole voting system is manipulative, and slanted in the favour of mafia. The strength of the town is coordination.

These are the(town imposed) rules we should play with:

1.We publicly decide on a candidate to be voted upon all by majority vote.

(remember we don't need to vote for someone who actually is in campaign mode)
2.No one diverts from the candidate appointed by majority vote. Doing so is a claim that your vote(in your district) came from scum.
3.No one votes twice. Voting twice is a claim that these excess votes came from scum.
4.After the candidate is selected, we all discuss who shall be lynched. We will again decide by majority - unless the candidate is confirmed town.
5.If the president mislynches someone who was not selected they are scum.
6.Scum due to 1-5 and 7-8 must be lynched first. Only exceptions are guilty results.
7.An unconfirmed President who declines to lynch scum is scum.
8.False roleclaims and fake results come only from scum.

I like this idea in concept but I have my doubts that it is practical. From my experience, calling town to band together like this doesn't work (this experience being my last large theme which was rocky horror picture show).

The main problem with this plan is that not many people like having restrictions placed upon them. They enjoy their freedom, they like being able to do what they want to do. This is an issue for this plan as so much as a single townie deviating from it ruins the whole thing. It's all well and good deciding by majority who to be president before the actual voting, but if anyone strongly believes the person we just voted as majority is scum then they're not going to want to follow through with it.

I think many people are overlooking one thing that this plan fixes though:

all mafia essentially have a double vote.

The mafia can punish the town for vote fraud but, as far as we know, we can't do anything to punish them. I'm sure we probably have a PR that does this job though but any scum with a hint of confidence are going to be heavily influencing every election.

I would also like to highlight how being voted as president doesn't mean you get to pick the lynch. In my opinion, the president's job is just to deliver the hammer verdict. Before this, discussion must be had to decide on who the town majoritively wants lynched. Once this is decided, the president should announce intent to lynch to give the target time to claim.

[Ruby Red]

meh, i'll be serious for a second:

My alignment is [obvtown af]
My party is called [LYNCH SCUM DAY ONE]
I/We should be president because [i get scum lynched day one. it's what i do. to help me with that this game, i want people who i can read easily and whose reads i trust in my party. that's a lot of people in this game. if you have a read you want to talk to me about, i want you in my party's chat.]
My/Our policies are [lynching scum]
Players I am likely to execute are [scum]

[mutantdevle]

Ruby is it possible you could explain any more as to why you want to be president (if there is any more to be said) and what you would do with the power?

[mutantdevle]

Please don't just answer "lynch scum"

[Ruby Red]

Ruby is it possible you could explain any more as to why you want to be president (if there is any more to be said) and what you would do with the power?

some parts for meme value, most parts because i believe in myself and i know im town

i would lynch scum

[Ruby Red]

oh lol nice pedit

[Ruby Red]

i mean at the end of the day its a normal game

i would talk things out with the people in my party and then cast the vote

im not sure what in specific you epxect me to answer tbh. did you expect me to say "id hammer someone instantly" or something

[mutantdevle]

I feel like I know you already :3

[mutantdevle]

did you expect me to say "id hammer someone instantly" or something

Not going to lie I did get this vibe from your earlier posts.

I'm sure you're more competent than that but I get paranoid easily :/

[Ruby Red]

im memeing rn because its still relatively early plus its still campaign phase and not lynch phase

[Ruby Red]

I don't see much advantage in trying as hard as we can to make this a normal game of mafia with inconvenient lynching mechanics. I also don't see how electing obvtown and letting them kill without mafia evidence is worse than letting mafia vote and influence our lynch. Obviously we still do discussion as normal, just with the absence of voting for a lynch.

what does this mean btw?

[mutantdevle]

i would talk things out with the people in my party and then cast the vote

Personally, I would never limit the people who have a say in the lynch to just those in my party. I don't see anything to suggest that those who join me would be more likely to be town than those who didn't. By keeping the lynch discussion open to everybody it takes into account more reads which means more association tells and, in my opinion, a likely more on target lynch.

[Ausuka]

I don't see much advantage in trying as hard as we can to make this a normal game of mafia with inconvenient lynching mechanics. I also don't see how electing obvtown and letting them kill without mafia evidence is worse than letting mafia vote and influence our lynch. Obviously we still do discussion as normal, just with the absence of voting for a lynch.

what does this mean btw?

I think we should elect obvtown and let them have authority over the lynch, taking non-binding advice from the other players.