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In post 71, Gamma Emerald wrote:Radja’s questions feel loaded

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Why didn't you vote him after this question when you weren't voting anyone over him?

In post 71, Gamma Emerald wrote:Radja’s questions feel loaded

Loaded how?

In post 76, DVa wrote:

In post 71, Gamma Emerald wrote:Radja’s questions feel loaded

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Why didn't you vote him after this question when you weren't voting anyone over him?

Didnt think it was scum loaded questioning at that point

In post 77, Radja wrote:

In post 71, Gamma Emerald wrote:Radja’s questions feel loaded

Loaded how?

You seem to have an answer already in mind

1. PenguinPower - 2
2. Nako - 1
3. BrightEyedFish -
4. Sephiroth - 4
5. Radja - 1
6. Tchill13 - 3
7. DrDolittle -
8. DVa -
9. OkaPoka -
10. Joey_ - 2
11. Kokichi Oma - 3
12. Almost50 - 3
13. Gamma Emerald - 4

Actually:
1. PenguinPower - 2
2. Nako - 1
3. BrightEyedFish -
4. Sephiroth - 5
5. Radja - 2
6. Tchill13 - 4
7. DrDolittle -
8. DVa -
9. OkaPoka - 1
10. Joey_ - 3
11. Kokichi Oma - 4
12. Almost50 - 4
13. Gamma Emerald - 4

Adjusted:
1. PenguinPower + 1
2. Nako + 4
3. BrightEyedFish + 1
4. Sephiroth + 6
5. Radja + 3
6. Tchill13 + 2
7. DrDolittle + 3
8. DVa + 2
9. OkaPoka + 6(7)
10. Joey_ + 5
11. Kokichi Oma + 2
12. Almost50 + 3
13. Gamma Emerald + 6

!!!
1. PenguinPower = 2
2. Nako = 0.25
3. BrightEyedFish = 0
4. Sephiroth = 0.83
5. Radja = 0.67
6. Tchill13 = 2
7. DrDolittle = 0
8. DVa = 0
9. OkaPoka = 0.17(0.14)
10. Joey_ = 0.6
11. Kokichi Oma = 2
12. Almost50 = 1.33
13. Gamma Emerald = 0.67

In post 75, skitter30 wrote:

VOTE COUNT 1.2

Nako (3)

- Dva, Almost50, Sephiroth

Sephiroth (2)

- Kokichi, OkaPoka

Radja (2)

- Joey_, PenguinPower

Kokichi (2)

- Radja, Nako

OkaPoka (2)

- Tchill, BrightEyedFish

Dva (1)

- DrDolittle

Not Voting (1)

- Gamma Emerald

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

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VOTE: kokichi oma

Okay if you’re going to make 3 different lists I’m going to need context

@OkaPoka

Your data just distracts me and makes me want to not trust you. Add some explanation to your stats and maybe help us instead of just trying to be all cryptic.

I'm essentially bookmarking my thoughts of early scumreads solely off of RVS/Early Day alone.

You know how we ask for reads later in the day? Well this is a readslist based on hidden but not really hidden criteria so I can later find this post to remind myself of how I felt the game was progressing.

Also aims to accomplish some other things but yeah. Hopefully it'll be helpful like when we get to day 3+ but rn its really just for me. I could make a private doc instead of posting it in the thread, but I'll probably explain it before n1 so you guys can use it as a reference (in case of my untimely demise) and I want to be as transparent and in the moment with my thoughts as possible.

Looks like he's making a ratio about good posts versus bad posts, historically no one cares about dead's opinion and no one will ever read your slot back to just sheep your cryptic read list page 3

In post 83, OkaPoka wrote:but rn its really just for me

If it really was, you wouldn't post it

okay no more data posts cuz u ruined the fun

but for ruining the fun u get town brownies

I've been in two games were I was scum and won solely off the fact that there were lylo liabilties in town that entered lylo and cost town the game. So my "formula" is to find out who is going to be a lylo liability and essentially "policy" lynch them before hand. Also I wanted to be somewhat cryptic because I was aiming to get reactions that I felt would come out of town vs scum, and I know personally just exiting from a scumgame with some cryptic players, that its really scary to not know everybody's exact opinions as scum because those people are hard to manipulate being unpredictable and all. There needs to be a veil of illusion to deter manipulation and buddying, buddying is my fav tactic as scum cuz it can really carry you deep into endgame and only then does the paranoia set in but if you can sneak your way into lylo chances are you have a solid chance of winning as scum.

Kokichi has a pretty bad ratio so yeah. Also she has a bigger wagon than penguin so there is that too. Was hoping that this would be a bigger talking point before it was figured out but what can ya do.

Okay
Idk if scum is able to fake this level of sorting

In post 86, OkaPoka wrote:okay no more data posts cuz u ruined the fun

but for ruining the fun u get town brownies

I've been in two games were I was scum and won solely off the fact that there were lylo liabilties in town that entered lylo and cost town the game. So my "formula" is to find out who is going to be a lylo liability and essentially "policy" lynch them before hand. Also I wanted to be somewhat cryptic because I was aiming to get reactions that I felt would come out of town vs scum, and I know personally just exiting from a scumgame with some cryptic players, that its really scary to not know everybody's exact opinions as scum because those people are hard to manipulate being unpredictable and all. There needs to be a veil of illusion to deter manipulation and buddying, buddying is my fav tactic as scum cuz it can really carry you deep into endgame and only then does the paranoia set in but if you can sneak your way into lylo chances are you have a solid chance of winning as scum.

Kokichi has a pretty bad ratio so yeah. Also she has a bigger wagon than penguin so there is that too. Was hoping that this would be a bigger talking point before it was figured out but what can ya do.

It was pretty obvious once you only put yourself with 2 numbers, 1 in bracket implying the post itself

Tbh that feels like tiring the cryptography line, if it were used for something more impactful than reads it might be a problem

Joey is right, Kokichi has liability, we should lynch him.
Also stan IZ*ONE

In post 87, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay
Idk if scum is able to fake this level of sorting

I think scum can give good strategies about the game for towncred, so it is NAI to me.

Actually, if Joey_ really cared about solving the game, he could just do this spammy thing somewhere secret and not in the thread. I feel like this has more to do with towncred than actually solving the game.

@Almost50, what do you think about this?

I am sorry - Joey in my posts are OkaPoka

I think it’s kinda hard for Oka to generate such complex figures as scum
When I’m scum making a read list, I have to force myself to pick up on things sometimes.

why are we policying and worrying about lylo on page 4. And I echo the thoughts that are these numbers that credible at page 4?

VOTE: BEF
weak read, but maybe scum-nervous in finding out the cryptic system he cant control?

In post 96, DrDolittle wrote:VOTE: BEF
weak read, but maybe scum-nervous in finding out the cryptic system he cant control?

I can agree that that post was phrased weird.

In post 90, Nako wrote:Joey is right, Kokichi has liability, we should lynch him.
Also stan IZ*ONE

Why am I liability.

Too many people are voting me. Dont make me say something I dont wanna.