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i'm just really frustrated because it feels like whenever i enter a game it's 50/50 for whether i actually get to play or whether someone writes a wall of text about me on the second page like they know every single one of my habits and mannerisms

legit this is why i came to normals from newbies in the first place
because everyone in newbies is such a hardass and the game is ironically 10x harder there

If you are not scum, don't worry about it; there is alot of game left. I feel that we are going to be besties by the end of this.

yeah, i liked you but when i see stuff like #56 my eyes go red and i just /replace out of everything because i dont wanna deal with that crap

Anyway, now that I've gotten a bit of a defense I'll post my thoughts:

I think this is a TvT interaction.

I don't think what bji was saying is necessarily a scumtell at all. Sure, there is an inconsistency with what clemency was saying but I think it's more a personality defined inconsistency than a scum inconsistency considering the context. I think it was a good attempt at getting us out of rvs though and it was more or less successful. The chatty opener scum point is a good point though. I can see the whole leader thing as scum 'reluctantly' taking a town leading role in the game. Not a scumtell on it's own though for sure.

I think the most that came out of this was clemency's reaction. I'm having a hard time deciding if what we're seeing is town or scum frustration but I at least believe it is genuine. The OMGUS vote seems more so to be frustrated town though. Scum would likely be more careful?

In post 78, Clemency wrote:yeah, i liked you but when i see stuff like #56 my eyes go red and i just /replace out of everything because i dont wanna deal with that crap

And leave a mess for whoever replaces you...

not to say that i'm against scumhunting, i'm against baseless scumhunting and assumptions;
i generally ignore everyone's reads up till about 300 posts in

Anyone have any thoughts

@clemency
And I agree with bji. If you are town I wouldn't worry too much about this. It's early in the game and not a lot of people are talking yet. In my experience most games start out like this just to break the ice but rvs never really means too much once we really get into the game and start properly scumhunting.

yeah i guess i'm still hung over my first experience where this thing happened and carried all the way to me being lynched

Yeah, it can be frustrating. When I started playing I could be very lynchbaity some games. Have you played many games?

i'd say i haven't
i at least haven't played off this site so

I've played off the site a fair bit in forum and non-forum environments. Often there's a lot of nitpicking in rvs I find that's looking for the reaction rather than really focusing on what is being nitpicked about.

If you're town, I wouldn't worry too much about it. I'm sure as the game progresses reads will become more clear

yeah, i believe you
sorry 'bout that
i was really hoping this game would go like my last one where people mostly let me slide
then again that last game had not_mafia in it so i was hamilton in comparison

No worries. That would've been a game and a half lol

So do you have any thoughts on anyone yet?

bef is probably town but other than that anything i would say would be disingenuous

bji

got mixed up since last player got shortened down to a three letter name starting with b

last player last game*
i'm a mess

Aren't we all lol

I would agree with bji being a townlean as of now. I have mixed feelings on your slot as I mentioned before.

@sash and reaper
Either of you have any thoughts on the bji/clemency exchange?

In post 93, Raya36 wrote:Aren't we all lol

I would agree with bji being a townlean as of now. I have mixed feelings on your slot as I mentioned before.

@sash and reaper
Either of you have any thoughts on the bji/clemency exchange?

More than likely T v T. I think Clemency has a play style that sometimes leads to just what happened earlier. Not an indictment, just an observation.

Agreed. Seems to me more playstyle than ai

In post 94, ReaperOfSouls wrote:

In post 93, Raya36 wrote:Aren't we all lol

I would agree with bji being a townlean as of now. I have mixed feelings on your slot as I mentioned before.

@sash and reaper
Either of you have any thoughts on the bji/clemency exchange?

More than likely T v T. I think Clemency has a play style that sometimes leads to just what happened earlier. Not an indictment, just an observation.

finally someone other than me says it

In post 47, bji wrote:7 games since May? Wow you play alot. You must be playing more than one game at a time at that rate no?

I always had a single game going at a time since I signed up. I must have been lucky with the queues.

Oh that was explosive. I think how Clemency handled it was genuine and townie, through the case bj presented was meh so I felt like he didn't need to be that dramatic but every player is different I guess.

Not sure how to handle Bji as his point look like they are over reaching but since it's still early in the game and it was the post that broke rvs that is acceptable. So null still.

In post 93, Raya36 wrote:@sash and reaper
Either of you have any thoughts on the bji/clemency exchange?

I thought bji appeared a lot more scummy to me than Clemency
Tunneling over a single idea, so soon, appears a lot more scummy than Clemency's posting.
I must also say that I don't take what happens in RVS too seriously either. It's the time of the game when people get to know each other and when rookie scums vote their partner to distance each other