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Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:45 pm
by Vecna
In post 42, RadiantCowbells wrote:Hey I wanted to ego post anyway and I was too lazy to log in Hydra so
Forget the roles for now and concentrate on who you think is town and scum
Id actually prefer people to talk about it before scum can discuss on optimal strategy for each person.
People speaking their mind early on what they like looks good to me in this context.
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:55 pm
by Vecna
In post 71, Saudade wrote:I was in the shower right now and realized the first thought I had when entering this game is how and which PRs I want to distribute in the town rather than which PR I want to take for myself therefore I scumread anyone asking for a specific role for himself and townread everyone who suggested a PR onto someone else
Even though I like this post, scum will also be thinking along the lines of who they want to assign what role to, to optimize their odds of high impact lynches and nks.
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:12 pm
by Iconeum
In post 76, Vecna wrote: In post 71, Saudade wrote:I was in the shower right now and realized the first thought I had when entering this game is how and which PRs I want to distribute in the town rather than which PR I want to take for myself therefore I scumread anyone asking for a specific role for himself and townread everyone who suggested a PR onto someone else
Even though I like this post, scum will also be thinking along the lines of who they want to assign what role to, to optimize their odds of high impact lynches and nks.
scum are more likely then town to try and manoeuver themselves into pole positions for certain roles, i think.
Having control of allocation of these roles are critical for scum, because town are likely to get at least some good shit out of it. Scum not so much
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:27 pm
by Hidden Happiness
Riruka-san was telling me that people were reading my first post as scummy. Well, I think the way I want to go about this at least for myself is give me a role that I find fun with and then give the stronger powers to lynchbait/people on the weaker side. I think giving townreads not as strong powers at least early would make nightkills extremely telling if someone killed say a macho/inactive towny over someone with the inventor etc. I think it's a good way to force information out.
For example, I know for a fact we'll probably not get King as I want, but we should probably give it to once again, a lynchbait player and see if we can agree on someone for them to king the day before or after and see if mafia let them live or not.
Okay can I never talk about mech again thanks. I'll get super bored fast. In terms of reads...
VOTE: Vecna
10 points if anyone else sees what I see.
~Orihime
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:49 pm
by Vecna
As a general guideline for how we go about this:
Id propose that people that usually get killed off early due to great gamesolving skills get the low impact or negative utility roles, to balance effectiveness of scum nightkills. No doubt thisll result in quite some discussion, which is exactly what the doctor ordered.
the main interesting ones that dont appear that interesting is what well do with the passives. Miller, VT, useless person, etc.
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:52 pm
by Vecna
what do you see, HH? Your explenation is more interesting than asking others to fill in the blanks.
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:59 pm
by Vecna
In post 77, Iconeum wrote: In post 76, Vecna wrote: In post 71, Saudade wrote:I was in the shower right now and realized the first thought I had when entering this game is how and which PRs I want to distribute in the town rather than which PR I want to take for myself therefore I scumread anyone asking for a specific role for himself and townread everyone who suggested a PR onto someone else
Even though I like this post, scum will also be thinking along the lines of who they want to assign what role to, to optimize their odds of high impact lynches and nks.
scum are more likely then town to try and manoeuver themselves into pole positions for certain roles, i think.
Having control of allocation of these roles are critical for scum, because town are likely to get at least some good shit out of it. Scum not so much
depending on the composition of the scum team, entirely. some'd play it agressive, some would hide and try to force towntells by picking roles that they think will appear towny.
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:01 pm
by Vecna
Also, Orihime, why are you asking for King if mech talk.bores you? is it the other head that enjoys that sort of stuff? Seems like a bit of a mismatch
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:49 pm
by Hidden Happiness
In post 79, Vecna wrote:Id propose that people that usually get killed off early due to great gamesolving skills get the low impact or negative utility roles, to balance effectiveness of scum nightkills. No doubt thisll result in quite some discussion, which is exactly what the doctor ordered.
Glad to see we're on the same page.
In post 80, Vecna wrote:what do you see, HH? Your explenation is more interesting than asking others to fill in the blanks.
You'll get one in due time. I think seeing if others see what I do will be a much more interesting topic starter though overall though.
In post 82, Vecna wrote:Also, Orihime, why are you asking for King if mech talk.bores you? is it the other head that enjoys that sort of stuff? Seems like a bit of a mismatch
Mmmmm I wanted roles that I think would be the most fun for me personally and those were the roles that stuck out to me. I dislike mech talk mostly because I feel it's the easy thing scum can talk about to seem like they're productive. This game is obviously super mech heavy with how we're gonna give out roles but I don't want that to be the only thing we debate on. I think it's best to figure out lynch options first. I suspect Day 1 and maybe even Day 2 will be a bit of a mess but hopefully we can get more organized over time. My partner wants the IC role because she thinks people will paranoia lynch me. I personally hate IC but I understand her worry. I think I'm more confident with her around though that we won't need it, but I won't complain if we get it.
You got any early game reads yourself?~Orihime
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:50 pm
by Hidden Happiness
Also if anyone needs a reminder
Orihime=Maria
Riruka=Shadoweh
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:56 pm
by Saudade
Who are those
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:05 am
by Vecna
my prediction for this game when I saw the d1 roles was that scum would try to push IC on their most lynchable member.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:11 am
by CheekyTeeky
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:15 am
by CheekyTeeky
HH town.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:19 am
by Vecna
what makes you say that?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:22 am
by CheekyTeeky
Their thought process around allocation of roles that you regurgitated a couple of posts later.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:33 am
by Saudade
Cheeky do you want to be neighbours
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:36 am
by CheekyTeeky
I wouldn't want to deprive others of a channel I'm unlikely to use productively.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:37 am
by Saudade
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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:38 am
by Saudade
I bet LUV would love to be my neughbour
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:39 am
by CheekyTeeky
RC come dance.
Pedit I'd read that post game.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:40 am
by CheekyTeeky
Nero why aren't you scumreading me yet?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:42 am
by Saudade
Your standards are very low tbh
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:43 am
by Saudade
That said you are town again this game
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:43 am
by Saudade
Easy page 4 conftown read