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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:31 am
by Commie Catgirl Coalition
skrr

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:31 am
by Commie Catgirl Coalition
In post 71, RadiantCowbells wrote:Actually fuck off Katy
sorry i can see that this is going to be unpleasant for everyone from a mile away? if you're town i think you're right but im never going to figure out you're town from this

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:31 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 69, Shoshin wrote:
In post 61, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 58, Shoshin wrote:I'll explain why RC's scum later.

Dunno it's really easy for you as town to just say I'm trying to eliminate you because I'm scared of you. And I think if you were town actually caught in the crossfire you'd give whatever response immediately came to you rather than sitting and thinking about it. You're buying time.
This is a massive misrepresentation of reality. I hate how effective you are at doing this as scum.
Sorry I said literally the same thing you said in a post that came later and it's a massive misrepresentation of reality? And if you mean you reacting emotionally in real time is a representation, if I'm wrong, show that that's not typically how you respond to things.

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:31 am
by Shoshin
Why'd you misrep my reaction testing of Zulfy as "support for Flubb's wagon"?

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:32 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 76, Commie Catgirl Coalition wrote:
In post 71, RadiantCowbells wrote:Actually fuck off Katy
sorry i can see that this is going to be unpleasant for everyone from a mile away? if you're town i think you're right but im never going to figure out you're town from this

YOUR INABILITY TO READ ME IS NOT MY PROBLEM

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:32 am
by Shoshin
I'm not reacting emotionally because I've learned from mistakes in the past when dealing with scum you, RC.

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:32 am
by Shoshin
And you're definitely not going to get me to do it this game.

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:32 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 78, Shoshin wrote:Why'd you misrep my reaction testing of Zulfy as "support for Flubb's wagon"?

You told someone to vote someone

And are trying to argue that you didn't show support for that wagon

Are we done here?

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:33 am
by Shoshin
In post 70, RadiantCowbells wrote:And you telling someone to vote Flubber to speed up the game is absolutely you signalling to everyone in the game that it was a pressure vote from you.
This is a scum claim from RC. He's not trying to read me in good faith.

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:34 am
by RadiantCowbells
But you still are acting emotionally

Or at least

Your responses aren't logical responses to anything that I'm saying

But unlike in the contextual games it isn't clear following the thread of your posting that you're in an emotional 'hot state'

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:34 am
by Shoshin
In post 82, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 78, Shoshin wrote:Why'd you misrep my reaction testing of Zulfy as "support for Flubb's wagon"?

You told someone to vote someone

And are trying to argue that you didn't show support for that wagon

Are we done here?
I didn't tell him to vote Flubb.

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:34 am
by Commie Catgirl Coalition
In post 79, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 76, Commie Catgirl Coalition wrote:
In post 71, RadiantCowbells wrote:Actually fuck off Katy
sorry i can see that this is going to be unpleasant for everyone from a mile away? if you're town i think you're right but im never going to figure out you're town from this

YOUR INABILITY TO READ ME IS NOT MY PROBLEM
whatever

i probably wasnt even going to enjoy this game in the first place

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:35 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 24, Shoshin wrote:You could speed it up by voting Flubb instead of me.
This is close enough that even if you disagree that that's exactly what you were doing you would never make it a hill to die on that that isn't what you were doing if you were arguing in good faith.

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:36 am
by Oversoul
In post 70, RadiantCowbells wrote:And you telling someone to vote Flubber to speed up the game is absolutely you signalling to everyone in the game that it was a pressure vote from you.
Wait why is this an issue that early in the game?

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:37 am
by RadiantCowbells
And I think it's super obvious from your point of view that refusing to unvote flubbernugget alone is going to bait a negative response from me. In 761 you never placed any extraneous votes because I was asking the lobby not to place extraneous votes. How does town you not expect me to react in at least a similar way to this as town?

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:38 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 88, Oversoul wrote:Wait why is this an issue that early in the game?
It's not

The issue is that she's denying it.

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:38 am
by Oversoul
In post 90, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 88, Oversoul wrote:Wait why is this an issue that early in the game?
It's not

The issue is that she's denying it.
Yeah I misread that completely and answered my own question :facepalm:

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:38 am
by Shoshin
In post 24, Shoshin wrote:You could speed it up by voting Flubb instead of me.
This isn't me telling Zulfy to vote Flubb. It's me testing the internal logic of Zulfy's behavior.

RC takes this post & portrays it as me supporting a wagon on Flubb. He then uses this characterization of my post to argue that I'm scum. This is precisely how scum RC plays. He distorts the meaning of my posts, and then uses that to push my lynch.

Town RC in almost all cases would realize that this post was a test of Zulfy's behavior, or at least ask me about it, before doubling down on voting me. The fact he's still pushing this misrep is definitive proof he's scum.

When I have time later, I'll bring up meta examples of scum RC doing this to me in multiple games, and examples of how town RC reacts to similar reaction tests from me in other games.

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:39 am
by Shoshin
In post 87, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 24, Shoshin wrote:You could speed it up by voting Flubb instead of me.
This is close enough that even if you disagree that that's exactly what you were doing you would never make it a hill to die on that that isn't what you were doing if you were arguing in good faith.
It's so annoying to deal with scum you because of posts like this.

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:40 am
by RadiantCowbells
The issue is that she knows how I feel about keeping people away from quickhammers, she played around those feelings in 761, then comes into this game in a way that she had every reason to believe would antagonize me then calls me scum for being antagonized when her posting is lucid in a way that doesn't indicate that she's reacting like this because she's not thinking b/c she's sad or mad or frustrated or w/e

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:40 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 93, Shoshin wrote:It's so annoying to deal with scum you because of posts like this.
Because I post obviously true statements that you're engaging me in bad faith?

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:41 am
by Shoshin
In post 89, RadiantCowbells wrote:And I think it's super obvious from your point of view that refusing to unvote flubbernugget alone is going to bait a negative response from me. In 761 you never placed any extraneous votes because I was asking the lobby not to place extraneous votes. How does town you not expect me to react in at least a similar way to this as town?
I don't believe town you would vote me for doing something you disagree with.

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:41 am
by Shoshin
In post 95, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 93, Shoshin wrote:It's so annoying to deal with scum you because of posts like this.
Because I post obviously true statements that you're engaging me in bad faith?
You know what you're doing here, and I don't need to tell you for you to know.

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:42 am
by RadiantCowbells
You don't?

How can you possibly think that's not true when you were my top townread in our last game and I told everyone to lynch you if you didn't conform to my lynch order?

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:42 am
by Oversoul
RC, did you instantly scumread Shoshin or was it a pressure thing that evolved into a scumread?