@tchill -"purposefully ignorant?". Aside from me saying I don't really understand what's going on in RVS, where else was I purposefully ignorant?
@tchill and Luca - I legitimately struggle with how to discuss my experience. Because I do think it's relevant. I also don't want to overplay it, because then I agree it looks like someone is trying to build in a preloaded excuse for bad play. Now that being said, I think inexperience is relevant as a lens to interpret newer players' play. E.g. if a read requires some level of experience to make, then a newer player will probably need that worked out for them or the read/tell isn't going to make any sense. In my first newbie game I had a level of confidence in my read that wasn't appropriate. When I'm looking at newer players, I now understand that what I perceive as the active newbies typical overconfidence is usually a result of the pressure that other players are putting on them to fit in and look town. After my first game where I made numerous comments about how bad I was playing, I had another town player tell me how scummy that looked. So that I cut out. And in this game I only mentioned that this was my fourth game in response to a question about my experience level.
So I legitimately don't know how to approach this. I'm playing more games (in particular games outside the newbie sub-forum) to get more experience, but until I get that experience, I'm gonna be inexperienced. If it felt like I was using that as a crutch in RVS then I guess that's fair. But RVS to me doesn't really give me much. Cases I can analyze. RVS feels sort of performative.
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:49 am
by Klick
Don't feel too much pressure to change how you're playing. If you're town, just do what seems right to you. Don't worry too much about experience - it's helpful to have a fresh perspective on the game. Site culture leads to a lot of people having the exact same perspective on things, and that leads to a stale meta where it's hard to get reads.
I'd still love to hear your response to this, though:
So far getting positive vibes from Icon, Klick and Pilgrim. Somewhat negative vibe from Datisi.
I generally like to keep my reads and reasoning close to my chest early on, but something needs doing here. Does anyone have any slight pings as of yet?
Luca y u not pushing Datisi if the slot's pinging you?
Because the slight ping isn’t really based on anything concrete; was just a feeling based on her play so far, therefore there is nothing yet to base a push on. I was merely giving my early feelings in the hope it would lead to others giving their feelings and thus information would be born.
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:35 am
by Klick
UNVOTE:
I'm happy with a starting townblock of myself/Icon/Billy.
I'm happy with a starting townblock of myself/Icon/Billy.
Isn't it a little early for a townblock? I got town vibes from both you and Icon given the curiousity, but a page 4 townblock feels a bit early.
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:05 am
by Klick
It's not a long-term commitment, but I'm happy enough with the two of you to go with this right now.
Townblocks are abstract concepts anyway, they don't have rules
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:11 am
by Luca Blight
I haven’t played Mafia for ages but I can’t ever remember seeing a specified townbloc - usually there comes a point where you naturally start trying to work with the people you strongly believe are Town - it’s rarely something that needs highlighting in of itself.
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:25 am
by Datisi
In post 85, Luca Blight wrote:I haven’t played Mafia for ages but I can’t ever remember seeing a specified townbloc - usually there comes a point where you naturally start trying to work with the people you strongly believe are Town - it’s rarely something that needs highlighting in of itself.
It really doesn't. But Icon has a thing for calling out townblocks I think
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:26 am
by Datisi
In post 79, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Klick, sorry, didn't realize that was to me. No idea what they'd be talking about. Maybe how they should interact or not interact?
Is that all you think the Mafia would be talking about right now?
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:30 am
by Emperor flippyNips
I think scums talking about how waffles are better than pancakes
In post 79, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Klick, sorry, didn't realize that was to me. No idea what they'd be talking about. Maybe how they should interact or not interact?
Is that all you think the Mafia would be talking about right now?
Really not sure what else they'd be talking about.
In post 79, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Klick, sorry, didn't realize that was to me. No idea what they'd be talking about. Maybe how they should interact or not interact?
Is that all you think the Mafia would be talking about right now?
Really not sure what else they'd be talking about.
In post 79, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Klick, sorry, didn't realize that was to me. No idea what they'd be talking about. Maybe how they should interact or not interact?
Is that all you think the Mafia would be talking about right now?
What do you think they’re talking about?
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:54 am
by Emperor flippyNips
I have something else to say about that but i want datisi to answer first