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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:33 am
by profii
In post 63, Kraeg wrote:Game is already out of RVS after a few posts 'cause of Norwegian.

Also, I'm getting a bad feeling about Billy's V/LA. I've been a player of this game for like years already and I've seen mafia abuse the V/LA as an excuse to avoid everyone. I'm not a big fan of people going on V/LAs.
In post 64, Kraeg wrote:So Luca and BIlly is on V/LA. Like what I've said, V/LAs are sometimes not genuine.
It's kinda notable that you say the game is out of RVS, ergo there is content to debate upon

Yet you focus on VLA abuse which is basically a technicality- particularly as you have picked on one player who is posting and another player who has said his VLA will last 1 day

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:12 am
by profii
I wanna know if Mohab has any further thoughts on anything yet. Talk to me dude

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:19 am
by profii
In post 35, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Not a fan of Norweigenboy's defensive tone, and definitely not a fan that he unvoted when getting pressure for voting.
I was looking at Skellen and it lead me back to this.

If you are scum and someone unvotes due to pressure, i dont think you out that someone malleable to the entire group - i think you just say to yourself / the scum PT - look guys, if we pressure this guy he will do this or that, use that for later.

so i actually think this comes across as towny without meaning to.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:21 am
by profii
In post 41, Skellen wrote:
In post 35, Billy Pilgrim wrote: Not a fan of Norweigenboy's defensive tone, and definitely not a fan that he unvoted when getting pressure for voting.
Not a fan of this. I dislike how you are obviously not feeling good about Norwegianboy yet you are hesitant to increase the pressure on him with not voting him?

VOTE: Billy
But yeah the reason I was looking at that particular post was this one - this reason for voting seems like 'too good to be true' or 'too textbook'

I dont know how to articulate it but if i wanted to lay a vote down and give a reason that made me look town, I'd look for something like this which is a pretty irrefutable under the radar reason... so I'm gonna call it a double bluff and...

VOTE: Skellen

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:27 am
by Gamma Emerald
VOTE COUNT 1.2


Mohab500 (0) -
Skellen (2) - Emperor FlippyNips, profii
Luca Blight (0) -
Garmr (0) -
Emperor FlippyNips (0) -
profii (0) -
NorwegianboyEE (2) - Garmr, Kraeg
Kraeg (2) - Mohab500, NorwegianboyEE
Billy Pilgrim (1) - Skellen

Not Voting: Luca Blight, Billy Pilgrim

ACTIVITY NOTES:
Billy Pilgrim is V/LA through Monday, Sept 2

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is Friday, September 13th at 10:00 am PDT which is in
(expired on 2019-09-13 10:00:00)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:52 am
by Mohab500
Not a good outlook for Kraeg; I feel that calling people out for V/LA's is a bit of a rushed reason to try and find a scumread/lean for anyone. My vote still stands.

Norwegian's leanings seem made out of emotion/rash decisions to me, with that being said, I don't really feel like his behaviour is coming out of scumminess, rather that's just the nature of his gameplay (?)

A slight townlean on Billy, I feel like his thoughts are basic/simple enough to be genuine rather than scum, but it's more of a feeling than anything.

Everyone else, neutral as of now.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:53 am
by Mohab500
@profilii, and everyone else basically:

Apologies for not being as active as I could be in the game, I need to get back into the habit of checking the site frequently. I'll try to post more frequently from now on.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:33 am
by Emperor flippyNips
In post 39, Skellen wrote:
In post 25, Kraeg wrote:
In post 12, Emperor flippyNips wrote:VOTE: skellen
This is odd.
I don't see what's so odd about it? I mean flippy gave you already kind of the obvious answer (mainly his 2.). The only thing he could have commented on was the beginning of the Garmr/Norwegianboy interaction. I understand you are scumreading the latter also for his opening, so if voting elsewhere is odd wouldn't it be more interesting to get to know why flippy decided to not comment/vote there?

Also I am a she. :neutral:


I think my 3 is the most important tbh

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:03 pm
by Billy Pilgrim
In post 82, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 39, Skellen wrote:
In post 25, Kraeg wrote:
In post 12, Emperor flippyNips wrote:VOTE: skellen
This is odd.
I don't see what's so odd about it? I mean flippy gave you already kind of the obvious answer (mainly his 2.). The only thing he could have commented on was the beginning of the Garmr/Norwegianboy interaction. I understand you are scumreading the latter also for his opening, so if voting elsewhere is odd wouldn't it be more interesting to get to know why flippy decided to not comment/vote there?

Also I am a she. :neutral:


I think my 3 is the most important tbh
I know your town game is pretty light/jokey but I feel like this is a bit much even for you. I mean this is you tripling down on Skellen not saying hi to you as the reason for your vote. I'm doing your iso from memory, but the only other thing is you thirding the scumlean/read on Kraeg for the awkward opening. I don't feel like this is you sorting. And you're definitely less active than last game.

VOTE: EmperorVOTE:

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:04 pm
by Billy Pilgrim
VOTE: Emperor

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:07 pm
by Emperor flippyNips
Ive done this so many times billy i cant even count it

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:08 pm
by Emperor flippyNips
& my activity fell when I started working again. & i had a full work week. We’re on hiatus now so I’m free so expect me to be the top poster again.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:10 pm
by Emperor flippyNips
Also that last thing isn’t real right now you know that right billy?

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:12 pm
by Emperor flippyNips
Like it doesn’t exists my friend. If you want to loook me up & see some REAL games feel free to

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:13 pm
by Emperor flippyNips
& yeah i mean we”re d1 I’m lazy i was really drunk last night it was my Friday. But touching back on how skellen hasn’t said hi to me once is a bit disturbing.

Idk who I’ve done this to already billy but know its been done.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:20 pm
by Emperor flippyNips
In post 84, Billy Pilgrim wrote:VOTE: Emperor



Ahhhhhh that’s what I like to see. My name highlighted in a bright light

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:20 pm
by Emperor flippyNips
Image

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:06 pm
by Billy Pilgrim
Townreading Garmr
Lean on profii
Null - emperor (those last posts felt more like the other emperor)
Scum lean Norwegian

Null because I need more posts - Skellen, Kraeg, Mohab, Luca

UNVOTE: Emperor
Are those lights better?

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:09 pm
by Emperor flippyNips
Any light with my name on it :hearts:

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:47 pm
by Luca Blight
Catching-up....(striked the stuff that has been answered/is no longer relevant)

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I'm struggling to follow why this is scummy?


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Do you still find Profii scummy, or did his response cause you to reconsider?


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Do you consider these to be AI questions? If you're 'not a fan' of Norwegianboy, why not place a vote on him yourself here?


Skellen's opening seems decent, and her thoughts in mirror my own.

- This seems fair enough. Early town-lean on Norwegianboy.

- Decent thought-process from Billy, early town-lean here as well.

- I can relate to this. Posting a naked RVS vote as scum is actually quite a ballsy thing to do.

, - This is just BS, shading people based on V/LA's right at the start of the game and during a weekend. Billy has even been contributing despite his V/LA, and I had just announced I would catch up Tomorrow, which I am fulfilling now.

, , - This feels Townie.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:52 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 78, profii wrote:
In post 41, Skellen wrote:
In post 35, Billy Pilgrim wrote: Not a fan of Norweigenboy's defensive tone, and definitely not a fan that he unvoted when getting pressure for voting.
Not a fan of this. I dislike how you are obviously not feeling good about Norwegianboy yet you are hesitant to increase the pressure on him with not voting him?

VOTE: Billy
But yeah the reason I was looking at that particular post was this one - this reason for voting seems like 'too good to be true' or 'too textbook'

I dont know how to articulate it but if i wanted to lay a vote down and give a reason that made me look town, I'd look for something like this which is a pretty irrefutable under the radar reason... so I'm gonna call it a double bluff and...

VOTE: Skellen
This is actually a good point. I had something similar going through my mind when I read that, but couldn't quite put it into words.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:00 pm
by Luca Blight
Ok, fully caught up. My early reads are as follows:

Town-leaning Billy, Profii and Norwegianboy, null on everyone else.

I know I said her opening was decent in , but looking back it almost seems a little too 'polished', so I'm gonna sheep Profii on this one.

VOTE: Skellen

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:44 pm
by profii
In post 96, Luca Blight wrote:Ok, fully caught up. My early reads are as follows:

Town-leaning Billy, Profii and Norwegianboy, null on everyone else.

I know I said her opening was decent in , but looking back it almost seems a little too 'polished', so I'm gonna sheep Profii on this one.

VOTE: Skellen
High 5 brother

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:14 pm
by Garmr
Hmm I'm mulling over kraeg I'm just going to put him to the side for a bit. All I can take from his post is something is making him jumpy. The only possibilities I can think of are.
1.This is first scum game and his having trouble entering.
2 he has a power role,
3.His pulling a slayers gambit.

He will probably need to be sorted sometime latter on but I am watching to see what they do next.



I looked at skellen, I get her play is textbook and generic but I seen town do this as well.and it's rvs so the wagon isn't that appealing to me. That being said I liked profii's initial vote on the wagon. I don't think I need to go to indepth with the town read since I think it's the common opinion.


Emperor flippyNips is kinda jumpy but It's not really that scummy.


Luca blight I find interesting. They are currently voting Skellen for being generic responses that seem polished ect. But their post 94 is pretty generic as well as it's just stating the obvious.

What I find interesting is they said they found everything skellen said the same thought they had. If you found what they said agreeable and mirroring your own. Wouldn't you be a bit conflicted if they are town or not. They were like oh yeah I had the same feeling as you profii. It's early rvs so I'm more forgiving of being hollow but it seems like they are trying to portray image of having independent thought with out throwing something out that breaks the mold or makes them stand out.


It's funny how placed in juxtaposition to each other both come off as generic actions but one null and the other comes off as scummy to me.

VOTE: Luca Blight

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:08 pm
by profii
Can you explain the slayers gambit for the uninducted please? I have no idea what that means sorry.