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[Definitely Not Scum]

DNS and Pine are the ones who please me far less

can I call DNS DNS server

No...

You may not call us DNS. You can call Kings of the Town because we are Definitely Not Scum.

- OS

[Definitely Not Scum]

If it were a joke, why hesitate? That self-consciousness rings false to me. Town doesn’t need to be inhibited during RVS, so the FOSes are super weird

It might be a playstyle thing for tris. I need to see if she does this sort of thing in other other games. Thoughts on Princess Pops?

- OS

[Definitely Not Scum]

A quick meta dive says that tris doesn't do this as either alignment.

Scum in schadd micro: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=80729 and town in nmsa open: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=80894.

[Definitely Not Scum]

I expect good reads on one another from bit and GIF.

- OS

[Pine]

If it were a joke, why hesitate? That self-consciousness rings false to me. Town doesn’t need to be inhibited during RVS, so the FOSes are super weird

It might be a playstyle thing for tris. I need to see if she does this sort of thing in other other games. Thoughts on Princess Pops?

- OS

Pops is usually a blatant read, but she hasn’t really started playing yet. Patience.

A quick meta dive says that tris doesn't do this as either alignment.

Scum in schadd micro: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=80729 and town in nmsa open: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=80894.

Congrats, you just lined yourself up as “likely scumbud #1”. The Town way to do that meta dive is to declare it simply non-meta, rather than imply it’s innocent.

[GuyInFreezer]

I expect good reads on one another from bit and GIF.

- OS

I won't be mentioning bit read until Day 3 glgl

[GuyInFreezer]

Why an unvote there

She's thinks I'm the scummiest slot in the game, but doesn't want to put me at L-she hasn't counted.
Retaining an RVS vote doesn't reflect that stance.
I think that's a townie position.
See how I told you I can get reads this way
see
I'm not drinking sake btw
but I should look into where I could buy that

Please don't answer for others
I'm only going to warn you once.

[GuyInFreezer]

Congrats, you just lined yourself up as “likely scumbud #1”. The Town way to do that meta dive is to declare it simply non-meta, rather than imply it’s innocent.

The real gem there is metaing with only one game per alignment

[Definitely Not Scum]

Congrats, you just lined yourself up as “likely scumbud #1”. The Town way to do that meta dive is to declare it simply non-meta, rather than imply it’s innocent.

Isn’t that exactly what I did? I said she doesn’t do it as either alignment ergo not a meta thing.

- OS

[Definitely Not Scum]

You guys can scum read us and all but we can confirm ourselves town so good luck with that.

[Pine]

Congrats, you just lined yourself up as “likely scumbud #1”. The Town way to do that meta dive is to declare it simply non-meta, rather than imply it’s innocent.

Isn’t that exactly what I did? I said she doesn’t do it as either alignment ergo not a meta thing.

- OS

No.

[Pine]

Congrats, you just lined yourself up as “likely scumbud #1”. The Town way to do that meta dive is to declare it simply non-meta, rather than imply it’s innocent.

Isn’t that exactly what I did? I said she doesn’t do it as either alignment ergo not a meta thing.

- OS

No.

Oh fine. “She doesn’t do this” is in fact different from “It’s not a meta tell”. The first biases the reader to judge tris innocent by implying that her strange posting isn’t a pattern and therefore is genuine. The second is a neutral comment without predisposition.

[Definitely Not Scum]

You’re really stretching that interpretation to make yourself not look bad.

[GuyInFreezer]

I think the more important matter is that he defaulted tris' behavior as potential playstyle before defaulting as alignment-tell.

[Definitely Not Scum]

Y’all are so bad at reading obvtown people. I expect it from GIF, but Pine.

[Pine]

You’re really stretching that interpretation to make yourself not look bad.

The fuck are you talking about?

[Definitely Not Scum]

You’re really stretching that interpretation to make yourself not look bad.

The fuck are you talking about?

You’re really stretching that interpretation to make yourself not look bad.

The fuck are you talking about?

If something is either meta or not meta, and then I say she doesn’t do it as either alignment, that pretty clearly falls into the not meta category.

You can disagree about the extent of the meta dive being two games, but that’s all you really need to see if this is a meta thing she does.

[GuyInFreezer]

Y’all are so bad at reading obvtown people. I expect it from GIF, but Pine.

Clearly you don't know how obvtowning works.
Obvtowning means one is towning up without doing odd shit.
Defending a player you are not familiar with by mentioning a playstyle from half-ass meta attempt with 2 games is hella odd at best.

[popsofctown]

Why an unvote there

She's thinks I'm the scummiest slot in the game, but doesn't want to put me at L-she hasn't counted.
Retaining an RVS vote doesn't reflect that stance.
I think that's a townie position.
See how I told you I can get reads this way
see
I'm not drinking sake btw
but I should look into where I could buy that

Please don't answer for others
I'm only going to warn you once.

When I see someone ask someone ask a question to actually sort a slot, man will I back off, I will go make an igloo and crawl inside and eat popsicles and come back out the next week when I'm sure the test is over, sanitized and unaffected.

When I see someone shading a transparent progression with a quasi-rhetorical question I will take no such precautions.

[Definitely Not Scum]

Y’all are so bad at reading obvtown people. I expect it from GIF, but Pine.

Clearly you don't know how obvtowning works.
Obvtowning means one is towning up without doing odd shit.
Defending a player you are not familiar with by mentioning a playstyle from half-ass meta attempt with 2 games is hella odd at best.

My defense of tris is not a defense. I don’t know why you and Pine have latched onto that word when I declared it nonmeta yet still voted her.

Even if that was a defense, that’s not the reason I’m Obvtown.

[GuyInFreezer]

My defense of tris is not a defense.

If it wasn't why did you mention the possibility of the playstyle of the player you are unfamiliar with?
Like, "this behavior is (could be) a playstyle" is literally negating Pine's conclusion of "this behavior is scummy." If this is not a defense, I don't know what is.

[GuyInFreezer]

When I see someone shading a transparent progression with a quasi-rhetorical question I will take no such precautions.

If you correctly guess what I was trying to do with that question, I'll gladly back off (Don't worry, I'm not that cheap to lie what I was thinking or was planning of doing).
Otherwise, please don't assume.

[Definitely Not Scum]

My defense of tris is not a defense.

If it wasn't why did you mention the possibility of the playstyle of the player you are unfamiliar with?
Like, "this behavior is (could be) a playstyle" is literally negating Pine's conclusion of "this behavior is scummy." If this is not a defense, I don't know what is.

Ok... and then I declared it wasn’t a playstyle thing... so did I defend her and then not defend her? Is that really what you’re trying to say?

It could be not meta and also a playstyle thing. If tris did this as both alignments it would be not meta and a playstyle thing.

Since tris didn’t do this as either alignment it is not meta and not a playstyle thing.

[Definitely Not Scum]

My defense of tris is not a defense.

If it wasn't why did you mention the possibility of the playstyle of the player you are unfamiliar with?
Like, "this behavior is (could be) a playstyle" is literally negating Pine's conclusion of "this behavior is scummy." If this is not a defense, I don't know what is.

Why did you put parentheses around could be when that’s what I actually said?

[GuyInFreezer]

Ok... and then I declared it wasn’t a playstyle thing... so did I defend her and then not defend her? Is that really what you’re trying to say?

Key point here is that you declared the possibility of it being playstyle before you fact-check it. It reeks of rushed defense.

It could be not meta and also a playstyle thing. If tris did this as both alignments it would be not meta and a playstyle thing.

And it's hella weird that you assumed that it was a playstyle before anything else.
Town don't assume playstyle before alignment unless they knew the player to some degree.