Newbie 1966: History [GAME OVER]

[Jake The Wolfie]

I think it's pretty reasonable, but at the same time, it is entirely possible to be an attempt of pocketing.

If Yimmy is town, why is it reasonable for him to defend you, when he presumably doesn't know anything of your alignment. <<< This should be suspicious to you. Why isn't it?

And if you disagree with the above, then you must believe he's scum trying to pocket you, in which case my question becomes - why are you not voting for him?

p-edit - buncha posts to read

They could defend me because they read me as town. This is really unlikely.

Well, if I vote them now, you would only say it was because you called me out. If I don't vote them, you will call me out for not voting my scumread.
Solution? VOTE: Yimmy

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Cool

[Jake The Wolfie]

I was saying that in that game I did not care, therefore it is entirely possible for me to not know of RVS.

What is the relevance of this statement....?

The relevance is that I was pointing out a flaw in their argument, making it less reliable.

I never once said your scumread was wrong. I'm discrediting it because it was built on a foundation of lies.

Oh wow this is basically a paraphrasing of "scum caught for the wrong reasons"

If someone said the Earth was Flat because they said so, they would not be taken as seriously as someone who says The Earth is Flat because we have evidence of it. Both are wrong, but one is less "wrong" than the the other. Likewise, the Scumread is wrong, but it wouldn't be as wrong if they used better reasoning.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I like you, even if you might actually be scum here

[Jocus Aevorum]

I think it's pretty reasonable, but at the same time, it is entirely possible to be an attempt of pocketing.

If Yimmy is town, why is it reasonable for him to defend you, when he presumably doesn't know anything of your alignment. <<< This should be suspicious to you. Why isn't it?

And if you disagree with the above, then you must believe he's scum trying to pocket you, in which case my question becomes - why are you not voting for him?

p-edit - buncha posts to read

They could defend me because they read me as town. This is really unlikely.

Well, if I vote them now, you would only say it was because you called me out. If I don't vote them, you will call me out for not voting my scumread.
Solution? VOTE: Yimmy

Hmm...
Vote Yimmy to take the scumread off me...

VOTE: Jake

[Jake The Wolfie]

I think it's pretty reasonable, but at the same time, it is entirely possible to be an attempt of pocketing.

If Yimmy is town, why is it reasonable for him to defend you, when he presumably doesn't know anything of your alignment. <<< This should be suspicious to you. Why isn't it?

And if you disagree with the above, then you must believe he's scum trying to pocket you, in which case my question becomes - why are you not voting for him?

p-edit - buncha posts to read

They could defend me because they read me as town. This is really unlikely.

Well, if I vote them now, you would only say it was because you called me out. If I don't vote them, you will call me out for not voting my scumread.
Solution? VOTE: Yimmy

Hmm...
Vote Yimmy to take the scumread off me...

VOTE: Jake

See what I mean? Damned if I do, damned if I don't I guess.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I think it's pretty reasonable, but at the same time, it is entirely possible to be an attempt of pocketing.

If Yimmy is town, why is it reasonable for him to defend you, when he presumably doesn't know anything of your alignment. <<< This should be suspicious to you. Why isn't it?

And if you disagree with the above, then you must believe he's scum trying to pocket you, in which case my question becomes - why are you not voting for him?

p-edit - buncha posts to read

They could defend me because they read me as town. This is really unlikely.

Well, if I vote them now, you would only say it was because you called me out. If I don't vote them, you will call me out for not voting my scumread.
Solution? VOTE: Yimmy

Hmm...
Vote Yimmy to take the scumread off me...

VOTE: Jake

Do you think I'm scum, or am I scummier than Yimmy?

[Moonchild]

From what I’ve read I’m suspicious of Jake and Yimmy, they seem to be putting the blame on each other to avoid suspicion.

[Jake The Wolfie]

From what I’ve read I’m suspicious of Jake and Yimmy, they seem to be putting the blame on each other to avoid suspicion.

As I said before, I can either vote them and be called scum or not vote them and be called scum.
Quote where they even suspected me as scum.
Do something productive other than scumreading someone for the

exact

same reason as others.

[Jocus Aevorum]

Quick transition from defending each other to a conflict is a concern.

[Jocus Aevorum]

Do something productive other than scumreading someone for the

exact

same reason as others.[/color]

It's fine for someone to say "I agree."

[Jake The Wolfie]

Do something productive other than scumreading someone for the

exact

same reason as others.[/color]

It's fine for someone to say "I agree."

That's both lazy and unproductive, and I will scumread you if you just say "I agree", even if directed at me.

Quick transition from defending each other to a conflict is a concern.

Quote me where they turned on me. They haven't. They haven't even spoken about it yet.

[Jocus Aevorum]

You got a problem with people stating their opinions? Not all opinions are original. It's better for people to state agreement with others than to say nothing at all. Do you think that we have nothing to analyze if someone just says "I agree"?

[Moonchild]

Do something productive other than scumreading someone for the

exact

same reason as others.[/color]

It's fine for someone to say "I agree."

That's both lazy and unproductive, and I will scumread you if you just say "I agree", even if directed at me.

Quick transition from defending each other to a conflict is a concern.

Quote me where they turned on me. They haven't. They haven't even spoken about it yet.

I was stating what I saw and how I feel even if it is the same as others. You on the other hand have started to become a lot more defensive, scumread me all you want you want but I’m trying to figure things out.

[Jake The Wolfie]

You got a problem with people stating their opinions? Not all opinions are original. It's better for people to state agreement with others than to say nothing at all. Do you think that we have nothing to analyze if someone just says "I agree"?

Moonchild hasn't produced much content, and I'm being scumread for pushing it? No wonder we're lynching a town D1 instead of pushing for content.

Do something productive other than scumreading someone for the

exact

same reason as others.[/color]

It's fine for someone to say "I agree."

That's both lazy and unproductive, and I will scumread you if you just say "I agree", even if directed at me.

Quick transition from defending each other to a conflict is a concern.

Quote me where they turned on me. They haven't. They haven't even spoken about it yet.

I was stating what I saw and how I feel even if it is the same as others. You on the other hand have started to become a lot more defensive, scumread me all you want you want but I’m trying to figure things out.

Quote me on where Yimmy attacked me or GTFO.

[Moonchild]

You got a problem with people stating their opinions? Not all opinions are original. It's better for people to state agreement with others than to say nothing at all. Do you think that we have nothing to analyze if someone just says "I agree"?

Moonchild hasn't produced much content, and I'm being scumread for pushing it? No wonder we're lynching a town D1 instead of pushing for content.

Do something productive other than scumreading someone for the

exact

same reason as others.[/color]

It's fine for someone to say "I agree."

That's both lazy and unproductive, and I will scumread you if you just say "I agree", even if directed at me.

Quick transition from defending each other to a conflict is a concern.

Quote me where they turned on me. They haven't. They haven't even spoken about it yet.

I was stating what I saw and how I feel even if it is the same as others. You on the other hand have started to become a lot more defensive, scumread me all you want you want but I’m trying to figure things out.

Quote me on where Yimmy attacked me or GTFO.

Okay so I just went back through the thread and realised that I was thinking of Jocus not Yimmy. I apologise

[LoserdudeOG]

I'll bite on VOTE: jake but if it turns out hes town, my money is on EspeciallyTheLies.

[LoserdudeOG]

I'm not buying the whole "oops i forgot about this im coming in late" then giving us a bunch of info that put us on the hunt of a jake/yimmy team. I definitely think that one of these people is his scumbuddy and that hes throwing them under the bus to prove his reliability.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I'm not buying the whole "oops i forgot about this im coming in late" then giving us a bunch of info that put us on the hunt of a jake/yimmy team. I definitely think that one of these people is his scumbuddy and that hes throwing them under the bus to prove his reliability.

When I flip town, will you still think a quick lynch is nessecary? I'm at L-2 right now, and I'm almost sure there's a scum on me who saw my proacivity as a bad, bad thing.

Also thoughts on literally anyone else, or is this a death tunnel on a town? You're being opportunistic because of that vote on me. VOTE: LoserdudeOG

[Moonchild]

Seeing Jocus while going back through the thread he seems to continually attack jake at any opportunity he gets even going back to his old game to try and get us to believe him.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Seeing Jocus while going back through the thread he seems to continually attack jake at any opportunity he gets even going back to his old game to try and get us to believe him.

Your point?

[LoserdudeOG]

Seeing Jocus while going back through the thread he seems to continually attack jake at any opportunity he gets even going back to his old game to try and get us to believe him.

I think Jocus is aggressive af, but town

[Jake The Wolfie]

Seeing Jocus while going back through the thread he seems to continually attack jake at any opportunity he gets even going back to his old game to try and get us to believe him.

I think Jocus is aggressive af, but town

Well, I wouldn't expect a scum to see a death tunnel.
I think the Scum team is most likely LoserdudeOG/Focus Aevorum

[Dunnstral]

At this very moment, my money is on JAKE/YIMMY scumteam.

Seems a little early to be pairing a scumteam together, no?

[Jocus Aevorum]

Seeing Jocus while going back through the thread he seems to continually attack jake at any opportunity he gets even going back to his old game to try and get us to believe him.

The old game was with Sausasaurus Rex, not Jake.