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Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:09 pm
by popsofctown
Yeah I think jjh may have alternated between high creativity and low creativity uses of the mod as a basis for the role and this might be a bad idea.

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:09 pm
by alimdia
I haven't played skyrim so I asked the mods to give me one. Yours might be what you say, where it doesn't clearly point towards something, but others might not. I don't see great value in claiming now, its just gonna clog up actual scumhunting if everyone talks about this instead.

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:10 pm
by popsofctown
VOTE: alimdia

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:51 pm
by Pine
In post 77, popsofctown wrote:VOTE: alimdia
Curious about your reasons here.

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:20 pm
by popsofctown
There's two separate reasons

"Claim talk will get in the way of scum hunting" is such a cold take it's potentially scummy.

Secondarily I feel like the post might have been a scumslip because he said other people's role PMs are either loosely or tightly based on the mod, but excluded himself from the dichotomy. That makes me think his role is neither tightly or loosely based on his mod because he's mafia and that has greater design constraints, mafia needs a strong man in the setup and out of the three people to get it "bows have a laser sight" is the one to get it even if it's not the most flavorful.
Even aside from that, the post seems to FYI something about how his mod was selected but he doesn't seem motivated by a concern for safeguarding his PR info and there's not going to be Vanilla in a upick to explain that to me

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:30 pm
by alimdia
I have no idea what your last sentence means.

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:31 pm
by alimdia
And.... its a cold take so its potentially scummy?

Point



You

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:34 pm
by Pine
I’m not sure about your second point, but the first is a good articulation of what felt off to me about him.

VOTE: Alimdia

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:37 pm
by alimdia
Pretty sure you're trying to bait out PRs here

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:53 pm
by popsofctown
I don't PR hunt when I roll scum

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:16 pm
by alimdia
Was talking about Pine

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:17 pm
by alimdia
Looks like Pine already baited 2 ppl

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:25 pm
by popsofctown
Flavor is fine


mine is a mod that makes skyrim more like a traditional rpg, where you don't fight a level 5 bandit if you are level 5 and a level 8 bandit if you are level 8, it's a level 8 bandit no matter what and if you're not strong enough to be in that region go murder lil rats over and over again until you're strong enough to beat it.

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:29 pm
by popsofctown
I think I'm o.k. with any one person not sharing the flavor of their mod if they don't think it's flexible enough like mine and Pine's, and justifying that could just be part of any eventual claim.

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:53 pm
by Zenith
Personally, I'd prefer a D2 mass flavor claim.

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:03 pm
by Wake1
In post 61, Pine wrote:
In post 60, Wake1 wrote:Two naked votes already?

I'm impressed.
Clearly the “Persecuted” perk you took last level is paying dividends.

VOTE: Wake88
Also I missed this what does this mean?

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:12 pm
by Pine
In post 88, popsofctown wrote:I think I'm o.k. with any one person not sharing the flavor of their mod if they don't think it's flexible enough like mine and Pine's, and justifying that could just be part of any eventual claim.
That kind of defeats the purpose, though :/
In post 89, Zenith wrote:Personally, I'd prefer a D2 mass flavor claim.
I could live with that.
In post 90, Wake1 wrote:
In post 61, Pine wrote:
In post 60, Wake1 wrote:Two naked votes already?

I'm impressed.
Clearly the “Persecuted” perk you took last level is paying dividends.

VOTE: Wake88
Also I missed this what does this mean?
Don't worry about it, I was RVSing and I've moved on.

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:02 pm
by popsofctown
In post 91, Pine wrote: That kind of defeats the purpose, though :/
Well I think maybe it's just not a good enough of an idea.

For sake of argument, in a normal setup, you could have everyone claim a set of five roles they possibly are and constrain their claims to those five in massclaim later, but it isn't deemed to be a good tradeoff against giving the scum the information. Here you're not getting to handpick the X roles, and there's a concern that X might be a lot closer to one or two sometimes.

I think the occasional use of flavor cops in uPicks is a better justification than anything else

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:01 am
by GuyInFreezer
I HARDCLAIM CBBE

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:01 am
by GuyInFreezer
Come at me fools

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:09 am
by Eve
what's that?

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:11 am
by alimdia
In post 95, Eve wrote:what's that?
^
In post 92, popsofctown wrote:
In post 91, Pine wrote: That kind of defeats the purpose, though :/
Well I think maybe it's just not a good enough of an idea.

For sake of argument, in a normal setup, you could have everyone claim a set of five roles they possibly are and constrain their claims to those five in massclaim later, but it isn't deemed to be a good tradeoff against giving the scum the information. Here you're not getting to handpick the X roles, and there's a concern that X might be a lot closer to one or two sometimes.

I think the occasional use of flavor cops in uPicks is a better justification than anything else
Honestly claiming the 5 role thing is a better idea than claiming flavour

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:14 am
by Pine
In post 93, GuyInFreezer wrote:
I HARDCLAIM CBBE
Someone had to.

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:33 am
by gobbledygook
VOTE: Pine

Eve town

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:42 am
by GuyInFreezer
In post 95, Eve wrote:what's that?
All I'm gonna say is to not look it up while you're at work.