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Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:32 am
by Sakura Hana
It's also instaloss coz no one would lynch the Jester and the Jester wouldnt lynch scum.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:33 am
by Porkens
In post 55, YellowSnow wrote:
In post 51, Porkens wrote:
In post 24, NoPowerOverMe wrote:If someone does something scummy on the first page, it's still scummy. Wanting to lynch a claimed jester because we may not find other scum is scummy. Why not just find scum?
Are you defending blurryface or the jesterclaim?
Actually I was attacking Mohab
Ok so were you chainsawing for blurryface or the jesterclaim? https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... aw_Defense

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:33 am
by NoPowerOverMe
I am scum reading Mohab. Scummy is as scummy does.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:33 am
by Mohab500
I have never played with Jesters in a real mafia site either, and seeing as the only downside is a mislynch, I assumed since everyone here, including me, is a clown, and we're probably going to mislynch anyways, it'd be better to get rid of a Jester if we don't have any better leads. But go off I guess, town.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:35 am
by NoPowerOverMe
That's a pretty scummy assumption .

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:36 am
by Sakura Hana
If Jester win doesnt end the game, the Jester HAS to be lynched before LyLo because scum wont kill him.
If Jester win end the game, then Jester claiming Jester is stupid coz then scum kills them.

So ergo, if there's a Jester claim the correct action is to lynch them and let them win, however not skip the day.
This is why I believe that there's no scum incentive in wanting to lynch a Jester claim that Mohab believed to be true, nor is there anything wrong with the reads he got in the early game.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:37 am
by NoPowerOverMe
I disagree jester is still town

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:39 am
by Mohab500
Norwegian, thoughts on this Jester talk? What do you think should be done if there is a Jester?

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:40 am
by Quick
In post 76, Porkens wrote:
In post 55, YellowSnow wrote:
In post 51, Porkens wrote:
In post 24, NoPowerOverMe wrote:If someone does something scummy on the first page, it's still scummy. Wanting to lynch a claimed jester because we may not find other scum is scummy. Why not just find scum?
Are you defending blurryface or the jesterclaim?
Actually I was attacking Mohab
Ok so were you chainsawing for blurryface or the jesterclaim? https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... aw_Defense
I like this post. It's NAI or anything, but I like it.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:40 am
by NoPowerOverMe
Lynching negative utility is low-hanging fruit in my opinion

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:41 am
by NoPowerOverMe
In post 83, Quick wrote:
In post 76, Porkens wrote:
In post 55, YellowSnow wrote:
In post 51, Porkens wrote:
In post 24, NoPowerOverMe wrote:If someone does something scummy on the first page, it's still scummy. Wanting to lynch a claimed jester because we may not find other scum is scummy. Why not just find scum?
Are you defending blurryface or the jesterclaim?
Actually I was attacking Mohab
Ok so were you chainsawing for blurryface or the jesterclaim? https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... aw_Defense
I like this post. It's NAI or anything, but I like it.
I wasn't chainsawing anything I was commenting on Mohab exclusively

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:43 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 84, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Lynching negative utility is low-hanging fruit in my opinion
Problem with that is that, Jester isnt exactly negative utility it's literally a different win condition, sure they can help town... if they want to, but their win condition encourages them to do things like acting scummy on purpose, spam posting, active lurking or who knows what else to encourage people to lynch them.

Of course a claimed Jester means a Jester willing to work with the town in exchange for being lynched so they can win, so in the end they have to be lynched too anyway and scum gets a free NK at some point.

So no, they arent town.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:44 am
by NoPowerOverMe
They are a voting member of the town.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:45 am
by Quick
In post 85, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 83, Quick wrote:
In post 76, Porkens wrote:
In post 55, YellowSnow wrote:
In post 51, Porkens wrote:
In post 24, NoPowerOverMe wrote:If someone does something scummy on the first page, it's still scummy. Wanting to lynch a claimed jester because we may not find other scum is scummy. Why not just find scum?
Are you defending blurryface or the jesterclaim?
Actually I was attacking Mohab
Ok so were you chainsawing for blurryface or the jesterclaim? https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... aw_Defense
I like this post. It's NAI or anything, but I like it.
I wasn't chainsawing anything I was commenting on Mohab exclusively
I just like that he linked it. Didn't really look at what he was implying. That's quite defensive of you though. Why so serious?

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:46 am
by Porkens
In post 77, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I am scum reading Mohab. Scummy is as scummy does.
In post 79, NoPowerOverMe wrote:That's a pretty scummy assumption .
Why is it scummy to make that assumption?

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:46 am
by NoPowerOverMe
I mean I get that they are third-party but there's no benefit in lynching them over scum

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:46 am
by popopopopopopo
In post 81, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I disagree jester is still town
? its a third party role

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:47 am
by popopopopopopo
In post 87, NoPowerOverMe wrote:They are a voting member of the town.
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:47 am
by popopopopopopo
not that this shit matters, this is a normal

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:48 am
by NoPowerOverMe
In post 89, Porkens wrote:
In post 77, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I am scum reading Mohab. Scummy is as scummy does.
In post 79, NoPowerOverMe wrote:That's a pretty scummy assumption .
Why is it scummy to make that assumption?
Because Town should always want to lunch scumover a jester in my opinion

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:48 am
by Quick
In post 92, popopopopopopo wrote:
In post 87, NoPowerOverMe wrote:They are a voting member of the town.
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I hope you try hard this game. I liked your play in the other one ftr.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:49 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 93, popopopopopopo wrote:not that this shit matters, this is a normal
Normally I'd agree, but there were some people that believed Jester to be able to be included in a Normal and have done behaviour that can be analysed on that context.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:51 am
by NoPowerOverMe
We can't talk about ongoing games even vague comments.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:52 am
by popopopopopopo
In post 95, Quick wrote:
In post 92, popopopopopopo wrote:
In post 87, NoPowerOverMe wrote:They are a voting member of the town.
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I hope you try hard this game. I liked your play in the other one ftr.
bro that shit was so TILTING do not get me started, you came in with the HEAT

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:52 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 95, Quick wrote:
In post 92, popopopopopopo wrote:
In post 87, NoPowerOverMe wrote:They are a voting member of the town.
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I hope you try hard this game. I liked your play in the other one ftr.
Not that it mattered in the end. :D