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What is scummy about what Espeonage said?

Do you plan to follow up on your questions turkey?

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In post 12, Gypyx wrote:Isn't the N1 vig claim a meme claim? It doesn't really look serious to me tbh

Does it matter?

In post 15, Hoopla wrote:a meme claim, you say?

i don't know how i feel about someone treating the early game with such disrespect.

Me neither.

In post 21, Gypyx wrote:

In post 10, notscience wrote:Hoopla did you used to be tails

Idk why I keep thinking of tails when I read your name

Also I don’t think I remember you being quite this over the top verbose

also curious about why claim n1 vig instead of crumb it

So, what does Hoopla's "change" in behaviour means to you, is it towny / scummy / NAI?

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In post 26, Gypyx wrote:

In post 23, notscience wrote:Nai because I’ve only played with them once if I’m remembering correctly and I don’t even remember the exact game let alone what hooplas alignment was

The style of posting is just something I think I would remember, you know? Like pirate mollie i automatically associate a certain text style with her and same for kkb, who both have weird posting styles

This is a really long winded way to say idk but I don’t think it has anything to do with alignment in this instance- maybe more excitement for this game?

I see, yeah that's fair, then i'm pretty sure that these posts make me lean towards thinking hoop is here to have a fun game, maybe take a little bit of time before getting serious

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In post 27, notscience wrote:Does anyone with more experience know hooplas alignment preference?

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In post 37, Espeonage wrote:Currently I have cooldog and notsci as potential scum for going in to night prep immediately. Seems like a scum thing to focus on right now no?

Vote: Cooldog

don't shoot cooldog, please

In post 45, Emperor flippyNips wrote:rvs doesn't mean posting, its a random vote & i will not be making one of those today

what an annoying "cool guy" entrance

In post 53, Emperor flippyNips wrote:are you a alt Gypyx or are you new to these parts?

bet alt

In post 60, Emperor flippyNips wrote:

In post 59, Hoopla wrote:hmm, thinking

VOTE: Emperor flippyNips

i felt this coming, I didn't know from where but i knew it was soon

all of this dialogue is so weird - from everyone

In post 70, AGar wrote:

In post 37, Espeonage wrote:Currently I have cooldog and notsci as potential scum for going in to night prep immediately. Seems like a scum thing to focus on right now no?

Vote: Cooldog

Hi Scum.

VOTE: Espeonage

<3

Would love an explanation here, unless it's just a joke

In post 76, notscience wrote:Do you plan to follow up on your questions turkey?

If he doesn't?

Then he’s asking questions and remaining in the peanut gallery as pointless busiwork.

Not really a new concept.

I follow up on the answers that I think need more explanation. Do you scumhunt without asking questions, Notscience?

No, but I tend to elaborate on what I’m thinking as to let others see my train of thought and weigh in on things they think are true/could use tweaking.

I’m seeing the questions from you but I’m not sure what you’re garnishing from them- and I only weighed in prior to your response because I was asked about it.

In post 45, Emperor flippyNips wrote:rvs doesn't mean posting, its a random vote & i will not be making one of those today

In post 46, Emperor flippyNips wrote:VOTE: Gypyx

In post 47, gobbledygook wrote:

In post 35, CooLDoG wrote:

In post 12, Gypyx wrote:Isn't the N1 vig claim a meme claim? It doesn't really look serious to me tbh

VOTE: vote: Gypyx
Angling for claimed PR lynch.

CoolDog, could you explain how Gypx was angling to lynch a claimed PR here?

Casting doubt on the claim to justify non-belief in it. Ergo, creating a reason to vote for a claimed power role.

In post 63, Emperor flippyNips wrote:

Spoiler:

VOTE: hoopla

omgus vote is dumb omgus vote. Probably means nothing this early.

In post 81, notscience wrote:No, but I tend to elaborate on what I’m thinking as to let others see my train of thought and weigh in on things they think are true/could use tweaking.

I’m seeing the questions from you but I’m not sure what you’re garnishing from them- and I only weighed in prior to your response because I was asked about it.

That's fair. I typically don't do that. I like to watch people play before I really go after anyone.

Your question about me following up on my questions implies that you think I should have followed up on some questions already. What question/answer combinations do you think I should have followed up on?

Honestly, the question right prior to it.

I’d noticed you hadn’t really said anything else about the other questions but I was interested in the agar question because frankly, if I wasn’t sheeping hoopla I probably would have voted Espeonage too.

I’m curious what agar has to say but also curious for your take on the two of them. I see you don’t think it’s necessarily scummy but do yo I think it’s townie/nai? I get it’s still early and votes are weak but he’s already talking about night prep- which as far as I’m aware Just sounds like buzzwording and not something I’ve seen in the thread.

In post 75, gobbledygook wrote:What is scummy about what Espeonage said?

In post 78, Hiraki wrote:

In post 70, AGar wrote:

In post 37, Espeonage wrote:Currently I have cooldog and notsci as potential scum for going in to night prep immediately. Seems like a scum thing to focus on right now no?

Vote: Cooldog

Hi Scum.

VOTE: Espeonage

<3

Would love an explanation here, unless it's just a joke

I mean it's part joking because it's Page 3 so there's not tons to go off of but I thought it was shady to go "Hey they're night planning, that's scummy" after a meme claim.

So it's like 50/50 on how serious I am.

In post 75, gobbledygook wrote:What is scummy about what Espeonage said?

In post 76, notscience wrote:Do you plan to follow up on your questions turkey?

In post 84, notscience wrote:Honestly, the question right prior to it.

I’d noticed you hadn’t really said anything else about the other questions but I was interested in the agar question because frankly, if I wasn’t sheeping hoopla I probably would have voted Espeonage too.

I’m curious what agar has to say but also curious for your take on the two of them. I see you don’t think it’s necessarily scummy but do yo I think it’s townie/nai? I get it’s still early and votes are weak but he’s already talking about night prep- which as far as I’m aware Just sounds like buzzwording and not something I’ve seen in the thread.

So post 75 is what prompted post 76? How would I even be able to answer post 76 when I had asked post 75?

I have been thinking that Espeonage is trolling, so NAI. That is why I wanted to know why Agar voted him.

Like I said in the post I had noticed you hadn’t commented further on previous questions and that was a question I wanted further questioning on.

And I actually took that post as half serious from him, not really trolling.

I actually took Espeonages post half serious is what that meant.

I was just interested in heading off that pattern bc I’m trying to see more of the reason behind the questions. And then you said it’s not how you play so I’ve pretty much resigned to wait for your takes to come in after people start playing

Lol

In post 84, notscience wrote:I’d noticed you hadn’t really said anything else about the other questions but I was interested in the agar question because frankly, if I wasn’t sheeping hoopla I probably would have voted Espeonage too.

Why do you want to vote Espeonage?

In post 85, AGar wrote:I mean it's part joking because it's Page 3 so there's not tons to go off of but I thought it was shady to go "Hey they're night planning, that's scummy" after a meme claim.

What is scummy about thinking nightplanning is scummy?

In post 88, notscience wrote:I actually took Espeonages post half serious is what that meant.

I was just interested in heading off that pattern bc I’m trying to see more of the reason behind the questions. And then you said it’s not how you play so I’ve pretty much resigned to wait for your takes to come in after people start playing

You want to head off the pattern of me asking questions? I will push things that I think are scummy in real time. It isn't like I just sit there and ask questions. But as far as having all my thoughts or a fully transparent thought process, you'll never get that from me.

Generally, I do not like to insert my opinion on things. During sociological research, researchers try not to interfere with their subjects, so that their data is not tainted by outside influence. That's what I do more or less.

VOTE: Gypx

Oh, I thought you and Hoopla were voting Gypx.

VOTE: Emperor Flippy Nips

I just don’t get where he got it from in the first place is all. You can read what I said up to that point- all I had said regarding it is I didn’t understand why he full claimed and not crumbed- bc I took it seriously because I wasn’t fully awake yet

It looked like a buzzworded contrived made up read (and yes I get how early it is and how we have nothing to go off of) that didn’t accurately reflect the game state and just seemed like someone making shit up to fake scumhubt.

And we talked after that and as I said I’m fine waiting for you to pick your moments thE trying to get transparency was my original intent with asking that question.

Pedit- works for me

In post 91, gobbledygook wrote:

In post 85, AGar wrote:I mean it's part joking because it's Page 3 so there's not tons to go off of but I thought it was shady to go "Hey they're night planning, that's scummy" after a meme claim.

What is scummy about thinking nightplanning is scummy?

You're going to be a pain in the ass, aren't you. Ugh.

One, Notty didn't do any nightplanning. Not sure why Espe included him in the comment, that was shady. ISO function too stronk.

Two, CD taking the bait and saying "if there's one kill, Espe is the lynch," while dumb, seems weak at best. Just plain dumb. Another shady inclusion.

In post 91, gobbledygook wrote:Generally, I do not like to insert my opinion on things. During sociological research, researchers try not to interfere with their subjects, so that their data is not tainted by outside influence. That's what I do more or less.

You do realize you're a part of this game and thus it necessitates your interaction with everyone, right?

I remember people doing that before I left a few years ago lol

In post 94, AGar wrote:You're going to be a pain in the ass, aren't you. Ugh.

This made me chuckle.

But yes, probably. I try not to needle people too intensely because people do not like it.

In post 94, AGar wrote:Two, CD taking the bait and saying "if there's one kill, Espe is the lynch," while dumb, seems weak at best. Just plain dumb. Another shady inclusion.

What do you think about CoolDog's reasoning for voting Gypx?

In post 95, AGar wrote:You do realize you're a part of this game and thus it necessitates your interaction with everyone, right?

I do realize that I am playing a social deduction game called mafia. I guess I am not explaining myself fully. I will vote people I think are scummy. I may give some reasoning for voting said person. That reasoning/explanation most likely will not be all my thoughts about said person.

In post 97, gobbledygook wrote:

In post 94, AGar wrote:You're going to be a pain in the ass, aren't you. Ugh.

This made me chuckle.

But yes, probably. I try not to needle people too intensely because people do not like it.

TBF, I'm coming off a 4 year layoff so I'm in Get Off My Lawn mode rn.

In post 97, gobbledygook wrote:

In post 94, AGar wrote:Two, CD taking the bait and saying "if there's one kill, Espe is the lynch," while dumb, seems weak at best. Just plain dumb. Another shady inclusion.

What do you think about CoolDog's reasoning for voting Gypx?

Spoiler: CoolDog Gypx Vote Explanation

In post 82, CooLDoG wrote:

In post 47, gobbledygook wrote:

In post 35, CooLDoG wrote:

In post 12, Gypyx wrote:Isn't the N1 vig claim a meme claim? It doesn't really look serious to me tbh

VOTE: vote: Gypyx
Angling for claimed PR lynch.

CoolDog, could you explain how Gypx was angling to lynch a claimed PR here?

Casting doubt on the claim to justify non-belief in it. Ergo, creating a reason to vote for a claimed power role.

It's dumb, a stretch, yes, but dumb. And for me that's kinda what I remember of CoolDoG. Waiting to see something inherently malicious/shady on his part.

In post 97, gobbledygook wrote:

In post 95, AGar wrote:You do realize you're a part of this game and thus it necessitates your interaction with everyone, right?

I do realize that I am playing a social deduction game called mafia. I guess I am not explaining myself fully. I will vote people I think are scummy. I may give some reasoning for voting said person. That reasoning/explanation most likely will not be all my thoughts about said person.

Seems like a hell of a way to convince the rest of us of your lynch preferences.

Ok so my thoughts are that I would expect town who believes the claim to go, ok cool good to know. It's bit wifom-y so imma leave it to later or just err on the side of randomness.

Scum however I would expect to look at it as part of the puzzle to solve. As if it is true it can mess with their play / be used as a tool to hide behind. Especially since that was immediately where CD's thoughts went. I think if you think, how can scum use this it would generally be a pretty strong indicator that you are scum.

I expected people to at least attempt to read between the lines but whatever I can spell everything out.

I however on the opposite side don't like this weird as chainsaw shit going on with gobbles either, so there's that too.