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In post 73, Dannflor wrote:

In post 68, Menalque wrote:Also, what happened to your title?

I decided I didn't like it

This is a shame because I thought it was super cute

Also, I feel like I don’t have a sense of your towngame despite that game because it was so long ago (I mean damn boi, I looked in your ISO and you were having to explain “gated” to me) and I feel like I approach games very differently now

Oh yeah, and

VOTE: hiraki

This is a srs vote, kinda was thinking of holding onto it to avoid putting him on the defensive but fuck it

I think the billy rep out was scummy af and it’s a hard break to be caught in but *shrug*

Early on is exactly the time to be reach imo.

I just expect a lot from Dunnstral's town game and entering with a setup question followed by #42 where he answers a question with a non-answer question that doesn't really seem productive or game-furthering in anyway is not what I expect from him.

Like I said, very minor. And I think you're supposed to be a little "eh" on my reasoning. A lot of my early game reads are moon logic. But you gotta start somewhere.

Is your hiraki read another meme or is that realz? What's the meta reason?

nvm I should read the preview box

In post 75, Menalque wrote:Also, I feel like I don’t have a sense of your towngame despite that game because it was so long ago (I mean damn boi, I looked in your ISO and you were having to explain “gated” to me) and I feel like I approach games very differently now

I just linked it because I remember it as a town game I performed decently in and I think it summarizes my own game well. It doesn't really matter. I think you'll get to know the difference this game.

It’s serious, as stated

It’s based on the fact that billy is happily playing in multiple other games (no major RL issue) saw his role PM for this game and nope’d the fuck out. I’m pretty sure he’s also on record as saying he prefers playing town > scum, and without being overly arrogant because I think I’d only be a partial factor here, I think there are at least a couple of players here he’d want to play with if he’s got a town role PM

In post 80, Dannflor wrote:

In post 75, Menalque wrote:Also, I feel like I don’t have a sense of your towngame despite that game because it was so long ago (I mean damn boi, I looked in your ISO and you were having to explain “gated” to me) and I feel like I approach games very differently now

I just linked it because I remember it as a town game I performed decently in and I think it summarizes my own game well. It doesn't really matter. I think you'll get to know the difference this game.

I remember you playing well in it, I just don’t remember what, if anything, differentiated it from your scumgame that I then went on to TR twice

In post 78, Dannflor wrote:Early on is exactly the time to be reach imo.

I just expect a lot from Dunnstral's town game and entering with a setup question followed by #42 where he answers a question with a non-answer question that doesn't really seem productive or game-furthering in anyway is not what I expect from him.

I think I’ve just moved away from this in my own approach and like to just solidly meme normally until my reads start firming up as people start pushing etc, and I think I’m trying to avoid being reachy myself as I’ve come to terms with the fact that my reads are like, not great

For dunn: guess I’m willing to wait and see? I’ve misread him as scum before when he’s just had a lazy towngame and so I think that’s not pinging me because I have no idea if this is likely to be a tryhardy game for him as town, plus I think he’s out in multiple very competent scum performances recently and lowkey think he’d make a townier entrance than that if he were scum. So I guess I’m a gut level I’m very slightly townleaning him from it

Incidentally @teacher, how much time do you have to play atm? Just wanna get a broad feel for your activity level and what it’s likely to be through the game

Man, I’m really looking forward to this game actually, I just realised

In post 84, Menalque wrote:I think I’ve just moved away from this in my own approach and like to just solidly meme normally until my reads start firming up as people start pushing etc, and I think I’m trying to avoid being reachy myself as I’ve come to terms with the fact that my reads are like, not great

For dunn: guess I’m willing to wait and see? I’ve misread him as scum before when he’s just had a lazy towngame and so I think that’s not pinging me because I have no idea if this is likely to be a tryhardy game for him as town, plus I think he’s out in multiple very competent scum performances recently and lowkey think he’d make a townier entrance than that if he were scum. So I guess I’m a gut level I’m very slightly townleaning him from it

That's fair. I just like to make things happen sometimes and maybe don't mind looking dumb with bad reads later on.

Overall, I expect my reads to change a lot. I'm willing to wait and see with Dunn too. Me scum reading an element of someone's posting or even voting a slot doesn't necessarily mean I want to kill that slot RIGHT NOW, it can often just mean I want to see what happens if I do.

FWIW, Mena, I’ve decided to try a different approach to the game, so I would t expect any meta you have for me to hold up here (either way). I wasn’t having fun at the end before I took a break (which could also be the world flipped upside down and extensive toxicity in my last couple games round March April), and this is more of a trial run at coming back with a hopefully different mindset.

Pedit - I return to school next Monday and expect to be fairly limited, both intentionally to approach and IRL commitments. But who knows with an addictive personality.

(I was hacking that out on phone as you asked )

I want to call Mena town but I've never played a multi-ball setup before and I'm scared about how that might affect my reads

I don’t think being wrong makes you look dumb really, I just feel like I want to try to more analyse what has happened without being an actor in it now, trying to learn from a scumhunter I very deeply respect. Also, yeah, that makes sense to me

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Okay, noted @teacher. Likewise regarding the meta you may remember of me, I took a break for a month or two earlier this year (around the same time as you actually?) and have been trying, somewhat failing, somewhat succeeding to play differently since then.

Also, okay, gotcha re the time commitments

In post 90, Dannflor wrote:I want to call Mena town but I've never played a multi-ball setup before and I'm scared about how that might affect my reads

?

You mean as in I could be replicating my towngame by just scumhunting the other faction if I were scum?

Yeah, that’s fair, I think I was doing that quite successfully as third party in post apocalyptic. I think my alignment generally becomes clearer as games go on

In post 34, Menalque wrote:Please god tell me that this entire PL is not on US time

I'm on US time, the difference is that I have a shit sleep schedule!

catching up right now

In post 60, Dannflor wrote:

In post 52, Menalque wrote:Dann, why’d you change your vote to haven?

It's very small but I didn't like how she switched her vote from you to Umlaut. You had two votes on you at the time and RVS voting you would have built a sizable wagon. I wonder if maybe she was scared off by being the third vote on a (let's say town for now) wagon and decided to switch her vote to someone with no votes yet. Also, the "for sheeping" reasoning is kinda strange considering she had just sheeped people on the Menalque vote.

It's possible this didn't cross Haven's mind at all and I read far too much into it, but it was mildly scummier than I thought Dunnstral was.

Why'd you put Marashu at the bottom of your preliminary reads list?

I voted mena because we've played together before, didn't realize they already had so many votes, so I switched off. In hinesight, the amount of votes she had didn't really matter especially because it was only RvS. But that was my logic for it back then.

VC 1.2

Menalque (3) - teacher, Marashu, Hiraki
Testarossa (2) - dramonic, Umlaut
Almost50 (2) - Testarossa, Gypyx
Hiraki (2) - Menalque, Dannflor
TripleHaven (1) - Almost50
Umlaut (1) - TripleHaven

Not voting: Dunnstral, Crush

With 13 alive it takes 7 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-08-23 18:40:00) or when an exile is reached.

In post 56, Menalque wrote:I lowkey suspect this setup is gonna feel really weird

4 scum to 9 town is inherently unbalanced so yes, it's very werid lol

My gut wants to say that dann is town for making that read so early on, but it's not like scum *never* does that so idk. Will have to see more

i've got nothing to say about the above except that it's stupid and the fact that someone voted with scum on that logic is

In post 96, TripleHaven wrote:

In post 56, Menalque wrote:I lowkey suspect this setup is gonna feel really weird

4 scum to 9 town is inherently unbalanced so yes, it's very werid lol

it's 2-2-9, not 4-9