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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:29 pm
by Menalque
wait whoops, that was meant to be in my errr

notes PT

sure, let's go with that

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:29 pm
by clidd
UNVOTE: Menalque

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:30 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 72, Farren wrote:
In post 70, Gamma Emerald wrote:I townread Ydrasse and will stake my life to protect him
How exaggerated is this?
Like halfway

But I do like how he responded to my entrance

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:31 pm
by clidd
I don't want to cause you cognitive stress.

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:32 pm
by Gamma Emerald
wut

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:34 pm
by Morning Tweet
I would point out that open-wolfing is a new look i dont think i've seen from Mena before (in my very tiny sample size), but I'm too distracted by my lovely gift. (and im guessing it means nothing)

OH by the way
In post 61, Menalque wrote:
In post 58, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 54, Menalque wrote:I have a very solid plan for winning this game
we treestump all the strongest players so the arsonists can't incinerate them, they carry from beyond the grave, we win?
um, this plan was meant to be secret morning, how did you get into my safe
Was that really what you were thinking or was this a joke

My first idea was to prioritize exiling players who are the best at town (and yeah, have a decent chance of flipping scum sure) so we win both ways. maybe that isn't exactly rocket science though

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:36 pm
by clidd
VOTE: Dunnstral

Plan b

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:37 pm
by Morning Tweet
In post 70, Gamma Emerald wrote:I townread Ydrasse and will stake my life to protect him
Would me mentioning that Ydrasse is a great scum player sway your opinion, or are you rock solid

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:41 pm
by Menalque
don't worry about it, I only ever openwolf as town

Spoiler:
pls no ban, it very easy to confirm I openwolf as both alignments with a quick meta check



errr, I did legit think about whether it would be worth killing GL and then just sheeping him but that seems like a really boring way to play the game and also like a really shitty way for him to die as scum and just generally Not Fun(tm)

also I think that just incentivises scum to play around that person really hard and I know GL is not immune to scum actively playing around him (because I've done it lol) so I think this probably makes him less effective anyway even if he is town?

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:44 pm
by Ydrasse
uh... i don't know if i follow along with why it's a good idea to even potentially vote out townreads?

can someone explain this for me pls.

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:45 pm
by Menalque
is that a townslip I see

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:47 pm
by Morning Tweet
In post 84, Ydrasse wrote:uh... i don't know if i follow along with why it's a good idea to even potentially vote out townreads?

can someone explain this for me pls.
Not townreads -- people who have tend to have good reads

but this playerlist is all around really good so idk if that changes much

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:50 pm
by Ydrasse
no i just don't get why people would view it like that?

like, treestumps can be burned down, right? you get the perspective of a confirmed player if they're a treestump but rob them of a vote. and even then they can be removed eventually, anyways.

p-edit: huh. in my mind i was thinking of it more as a failsafe sort of thing rather than trying to... make use of it like that?

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:50 pm
by Menalque
I only play in playerlists with loads of good players to get carried to victories and to keep my sweet, sweet win rate % high so I can continue to fool people into thinking I know what I'm doing muahahaha

(am I becoming isis)

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:50 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 82, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 70, Gamma Emerald wrote:I townread Ydrasse and will stake my life to protect him
Would me mentioning that Ydrasse is a great scum player sway your opinion, or are you rock solid
Already stated this was a bit puffed up, thanks for your input though

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:51 pm
by Ydrasse
imagine knowing what you're doing in mafia in 2020 and not just going stream of consciousness at all times no filter on.

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:54 pm
by Morning Tweet
In post 87, Ydrasse wrote:no i just don't get why people would view it like that?

like, treestumps can be burned down, right? you get the perspective of a confirmed player if they're a treestump but rob them of a vote. and even then they can be removed eventually, anyways.

p-edit: huh. in my mind i was thinking of it more as a failsafe sort of thing rather than trying to... make use of it like that?
I did not realize tree-stumps could be burnt down. Although i think that'd likely be a waste of time so if they actually felt the need to waste a kill on dead players that'd probably be positive for us
Gamma Emerald wrote:Already stated this was a bit puffed up, thanks for your input though
O

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:15 pm
by GuiltyLion
In post 32, Morning Tweet wrote:I see what the role PM mistake was. we had a three man team!

It's okay, i didnt retain the arson tendencies. I worry Farren may have though
hahaha damn a three man team would've been fun

I share similar worries about Farren, I thought his page 1 was a little awkward

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:16 pm
by GuiltyLion
In post 49, clidd wrote:Pedit: I think our interaction is tvt.
Clidd - which interaction are you talking about here?

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:17 pm
by clidd
In post 93, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 49, clidd wrote:Pedit: I think our interaction is tvt.
Clidd - which interaction are you talking about here?
Me and Ydrasse.

But I don't think the 'v' is applicable.

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:19 pm
by clidd
Lion, what is your opinion on Morning ?

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:22 pm
by clidd
I'm getting a better impression about Ydrasse.

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:23 pm
by GuiltyLion
ah okay, I thought you were talking about you and Menalque, that makes a lot more sense, thanks

p-edit: I'm not sure, probably a slight townread based on mutual Farren pings but I just about finished reading through everything once and I don't have a lot of strong feelings about anything yet

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:26 pm
by Menalque
I also think farren is a little scummy but wanted to let him post more before letting him know he was under suspicion

VOTE: farren

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:34 pm
by GuiltyLion
I townread Gamma, I think that's my strongest read right now

regarding the idea of eliminating strong town players - I agree that there might be a side benefit if we tree stump someone with good reads, but when I rolled scum I was thinking about how a lot of players in this PL are high WIM tryhards and going to be difficult to convincingly scumread/eliminate. so I'd be skeptical of letting people get away with votes just because the consequences aren't too bad if we hit town - that still allows scum to get a step closer to wincon, and could give them more room to justify/excuse their votes. If we're voting to eliminate someone I think voters still need to pressed to explain why that player in particular is likely to be scum, I wouldn't be down for policying somebody solely because we think they'd still be good as a tree stump.