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In post 62, davesaz wrote:Mixed feelings on 58. Seems intended to make progress, but not terribly inspiring.
Very mixed feelings on 60. That's a lot of explanation. Being clear, or appearing to be clear?

I don't particularly like this post from Davesaz he is hedging a ton in this post.
I think either of these could be described as scum indicative but he is choosing not to for no real reason.

VOTE: dave

Mala, bulge, lets get some free towncred and clown this scum

In post 75, Hayasaka wrote:

In post 62, davesaz wrote:Mixed feelings on 58. Seems intended to make progress, but not terribly inspiring.
Very mixed feelings on 60. That's a lot of explanation. Being clear, or appearing to be clear?

I don't particularly like this post from Davesaz he is hedging a ton in this post.
I think either of these could be described as scum indicative but he is choosing not to for no real reason.

Because you hide behind the anonymity of an alt I don't know if you know me or not.
Accuracy is important in this game. Anyone who has seen me play knows I approach every early game this way.

Notscience can have a short pass on this since it has almost certainly been years since we have played.

In post 73, brassherald wrote:

All have now confirmed

Early on, one claimed to both live in the monastery and work on the wall. Some didn't seem to believe him.

Votecount 1.01

Hayasaka (4):

Dunnstral, AGar, SirCakez, Elements

Not_Mafia (3):

Not_Mafia, Almost50, Hayasaka

AGar (1):

dramonic

Dunnstral (1):

davesaz

Elements (1):

The Bulge

Not Voting (3):

Malakittens, notscience, Xayah

With 13 in residence, it takes 7 votes to send someone down the mountain.
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-08-31 17:40:00)

2 down 2 to go~

In post 79, dramonic wrote:2 down 2 to go~

What's this mean?

hayasaka is an alt?

Hayasaka? More like Hayasucker amirite?

In post 70, Elements wrote:AGar, if you have a child and they join ms will you have to change your sig?

I don't deal in impossible hypotheticals.

Why are we wagoning hayasaka again

They're scum

In post 78, davesaz wrote:

In post 75, Hayasaka wrote:

In post 62, davesaz wrote:Mixed feelings on 58. Seems intended to make progress, but not terribly inspiring.
Very mixed feelings on 60. That's a lot of explanation. Being clear, or appearing to be clear?

I don't particularly like this post from Davesaz he is hedging a ton in this post.
I think either of these could be described as scum indicative but he is choosing not to for no real reason.

Because you hide behind the anonymity of an alt I don't know if you know me or not.
Accuracy is important in this game. Anyone who has seen me play knows I approach every early game this way.

Notscience can have a short pass on this since it has almost certainly been years since we have played.

In general I would consider myself to a similar player my last game which was on this account post lynch I ended up declaring exactly 2 reads. I understand why one would hedge as town I do it literally all game.

But I think how you chose to do it was scummy and my explanation failed to capture how I felt. When town hedge they leave things open. "X is scummy but what if Y" kind of ideas. So you would say my post is super scummy but you can see town playing like that.

So town hedge but they leave discussion open to say "why do you think that". But the post I quoted basically closes that off. It's just straight hedging to state thoughts without anyone being able to claim you actually have any down the line I guess?

In post 80, davesaz wrote:

In post 79, dramonic wrote:2 down 2 to go~

What's this mean?

scum

In post 84, notscience wrote:Why are we wagoning hayasaka again

are you reading the game?

WHAT HAPPENED TO NEUTRAL

In post 86, Hayasaka wrote:So town hedge but they leave discussion open to say "why do you think that". But the post I quoted basically closes that off. It's just straight hedging to state thoughts without anyone being able to claim you actually have any down the line I guess?

The way I do this is to state what I think, and see what questions or conversation comes from it.

Dram how about we lynch Dave together.
Then I bus my partner for full town cred and proceed to be shot by the other team.

Why lynch 2 scum when you can get a 3rd one for free.
You have to think big.

In post 87, dramonic wrote:

In post 80, davesaz wrote:

In post 79, dramonic wrote:2 down 2 to go~

What's this mean?

scum

Uh, it doesn't mean anything unless you say something about who the 2 are. Even that says very little unless you also give some kind of reasoning.

In post 89, davesaz wrote:

In post 86, Hayasaka wrote:So town hedge but they leave discussion open to say "why do you think that". But the post I quoted basically closes that off. It's just straight hedging to state thoughts without anyone being able to claim you actually have any down the line I guess?

The way I do this is to state what I think, and see what questions or conversation comes from it.

Part of the point is I think you hedged in a way that if you are confronted about it. You can just step back and go "it was just a random thought not an actual read."

Which is also what I think the meta argument is doing for you.

Town can hedge like that but you approaching it in a way that feels a lot more manipulative in nature.

You said you did it for conversation but your post offers nothing in terms of that. It's closed off in a way that I feel stops it all together. Idk if you wanted to create conversation you would be a bit more firm and state reservations.

In post 62, davesaz wrote:Mixed feelings on 58. Seems intended to make progress, but not terribly inspiring.
Very mixed feelings on 60. That's a lot of explanation. Being clear, or appearing to be clear?

Elements vote was worst of all but he's easy to solve so VOTE: dramonc

Cakez Buldge Hayasaka town.

'But why'

Not answering.

In post 87, dramonic wrote:are you reading the game?

Yeah and we have people voting because she sounds like newbscum and it’s an obvious alt

So am I not allowed to criticize lane wagons? Because I’m gonna keep doing it

In post 90, Hayasaka wrote:Dram how about we lynch Dave together.
Then I bus my partner for full town cred and proceed to be shot by the other team.

Why lynch 2 scum when you can get a 3rd one for free.
You have to think big.

You drive a good bargain. Ill think bout it

In post 91, davesaz wrote:

In post 87, dramonic wrote:

In post 80, davesaz wrote:

In post 79, dramonic wrote:2 down 2 to go~

What's this mean?

scum

Uh, it doesn't mean anything unless you say something about who the 2 are. Even that says very little unless you also give some kind of reasoning.

ok

In post 93, Hayasaka wrote:You said you did it for conversation but your post offers nothing in terms of that. It's closed off in a way that I feel stops it all together. Idk if you wanted to create conversation you would be a bit more firm and state reservations.

In post 62, davesaz wrote:Mixed feelings on 58. Seems intended to make progress, but not terribly inspiring.
Very mixed feelings on 60. That's a lot of explanation. Being clear, or appearing to be clear?

See that question mark?
It's an invitation for conversation.
How you can get "closed off" from that is just beyond understanding for me.
We're having a conversation about it. How can you think it's closed off?

VOTE: dramonic
We've had this conversation before. Talk or get eliminated.