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In post 71, Servant Beast wrote:Hey guys, checking in. Skimming and trying to get used to reading messages with the avatars all looking the same.

I can confirm I have a similar ability to what several people have claimed so I think that is all null then right?

Your avatar is a different color.
I cannot understate how fucking jealous I am.

In post 74, Servant Foreigner wrote:I don't town read Berserker at all.
Which makes this entire situation feel like utter shit from my POV.

I think this is the easiest "aggro" push you can make.
I think aggro pushes like this are more likely to come from scum then town.

Scum love doing this shit because it always gets them town read.
Berserker is going to back off in 20 pages, further getting more town cred.

It's actual garbage that I've seen 100 times and town has literally never successfully adapted to it.

It might have been used as something the mafia would not get. But I double thought it.
And thought nah, there’s no way Cabd would only send that to town, it’s an obvious loophole.
So I thought I guess scum got one too, but they’re aware they get to give all powers to the rest of them,

I wanted to test out the theory but berserker went off as berserker’s are won’t to do. My first post in response to him was misinterpreted.

In post 68, Servant Archer wrote:

In post 67, Servant Alter Ego wrote:I like this post.

spicy take bro

It's a nice start to have a townread before page 4.

Berserker trying to strongarm the master vote out of the gate doesn't give me good feelings either.

In post 74, Servant Foreigner wrote:I don't town read Berserker at all.
Which makes this entire situation feel like utter shit from my POV.

I think this is the easiest "aggro" push you can make.
I think aggro pushes like this are more likely to come from scum then town.

And the OMGUS to top it off, aided by a "aggressive players are scummy"!

In an anonymous game.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm :Thinking:

In post 25, Servant Foreigner wrote:To some degree we don't want to confirm someone we think is town as town? They get a jacked role pm but will just end up being shot which results in us losing a strong town read and the entire benefit of this vote.

I would be fine with making a strong town voice master. First of all, they will be guaranteed to drive 3 hangs which can hopefully help snowball this game. Also, there's probably going to exist protective roles anyways, so they could save whoever we end up choosing.

In post 80, Servant Berserker wrote:And the OMGUS to top it off, aided by a "aggressive players are scummy"!

In an anonymous game.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm :Thinking:

How does that statement fall apart in an anonymous game.
I am saying scum like to go aggro.
Watch a wagon form.
Then back up and get 2 cred in 2 different forms.

You're saying what you can, it's garbage, and it's going to work out for you.
Good job I guess.

What does your play have to do with this game being anon?

In post 76, Servant Foreigner wrote:

In post 74, Servant Foreigner wrote:I don't town read Berserker at all.
Which makes this entire situation feel like utter shit from my POV.

I think this is the easiest "aggro" push you can make.
I think aggro pushes like this are more likely to come from scum then town.

Scum love doing this shit because it always gets them town read.
Berserker is going to back off in 20 pages, further getting more town cred.

It's actual garbage that I've seen 100 times and town has literally never successfully adapted to it.

Yawn. So what, this is the setup?

You'll attack the general concept of aggressiveness instead of addressing anything I've actually posted.

And then make casual claims about what may happen in the future to shape expectations?

What part of what you are doing here is town trying to read people?

This reads more like scum trying to control narratives?

In post 78, Servant Alter Ego wrote:It's a nice start to have a townread before page 4.

Seemed like busywork to me.

Nah, I will have the last laugh and be the master if that’s all right,
I want it and I can give it to two other obv towns.

In post 81, Servant Archer wrote:

In post 25, Servant Foreigner wrote:To some degree we don't want to confirm someone we think is town as town? They get a jacked role pm but will just end up being shot which results in us losing a strong town read and the entire benefit of this vote.

I would be fine with making a strong town voice master. First of all, they will be guaranteed to drive 3 hangs which can hopefully help snowball this game. Also, there's probably going to exist protective roles anyways, so they could save whoever we end up choosing.

I care more about scum not having whatever powerups they'd get than losing one strong town player.
We're going to lose that strong town player anyways, that's how mafia works.

Or fuck it up I guess.

Hi guys!

VOTE: Servant Rider

In post 82, Servant Foreigner wrote:

In post 80, Servant Berserker wrote:And the OMGUS to top it off, aided by a "aggressive players are scummy"!

In an anonymous game.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm :Thinking:

How does that statement fall apart in an anonymous game.
I am saying scum like to go aggro.
Watch a wagon form.
Then back up and get 2 cred in 2 different forms.

You're saying what you can, it's garbage, and it's going to work out for you.
Good job I guess.

It's that you're making it in an anonymous game as a generic defense. No one can go "no that's not true" because yes, some scum are aggro. Plenty more aren't. No one has meta, no one can "disprove" your statement...

but your statement also has no value. Just as many town are aggro too.

And now you're speaking from a perspective of "knowing" I'm scum.

This is not real outrage. Nothing you have said as of so far reads as real. It reads as trying to take advantage of and deflect a situation by creating a fight.

In post 79, Servant Lancer wrote:Berserker trying to strongarm the master vote out of the gate doesn't give me good feelings either.

Town and scum both had strong reason to go after the master upgrade from the start, especially before we learned it's ubiquitous. I think how to act on that is more of a personality thing than an alignment thing.

In post 83, Servant Lancer wrote:What does your play have to do with this game being anon?

It's not about my play, it is about their statement being completely neutral.

It's about them using this is an anonymous game (a fact they stated to try and make a point before I brought it up so they are clearly aware of what the implications are or are at least considering them) as a way to try and deflect and make generalized statements for their own benefit.

In post 84, Servant Berserker wrote:Yawn. So what, this is the setup?

You'll attack the general concept of aggressiveness instead of addressing anything I've actually posted.

And then make casual claims about what may happen in the future to shape expectations?

What part of what you are doing here is town trying to read people?

This reads more like scum trying to control narratives?

You said I missed posts in the thread, yes I did.
You said that comes from scum, I said oh well it doesn't?

What do you want out of me, it's an absurdly basic case based on a mistake I very clearly made and can't deny.
I think that's the exact kind of case scum love to jump on, you ignored my reply to you saying it's OMGUS?

I am not addressing it because I literally can't deny anything outside the merit of whether or not it makes me scum. And I can't say whether or not it makes me scum because I don't think missing posts is alignment indicative, but that's my theory not something I could back up especially in an anonymous game.
That's like me saying you must flip scum because I said that scum like to go aggro.

The game of mafia does not work that way.

In post 79, Servant Lancer wrote:Berserker trying to strongarm the master vote out of the gate doesn't give me good feelings either.

ok but a couple other people had the same idea so why single out berserker

In post 92, Servant Alter Ego wrote:

In post 79, Servant Lancer wrote:Berserker trying to strongarm the master vote out of the gate doesn't give me good feelings either.

Town and scum both had strong reason to go after the master upgrade from the start, especially before we learned it's ubiquitous. I think how to act on that is more of a personality thing than an alignment thing.

I agree that no one should read me above neutral for wanting the Master vote.

But also, people should consider I was the first one to claim, and it's a personality thing. If I see a possible exploit, if my role does a bonkers thing, I'm going to push to do that thing.

Now that I know it is ubiquitous, I don't care who gets it as long as I vote for a town read. I'm happy to take it because confirmed town lets me lynch my scum reads with pure force of Rage, but.

It's not important anymore, my role isn't special in that regard.

In post 91, Servant Lancer wrote:VOTE: Avenger

Thanks.

In post 90, Servant Berserker wrote:It's that you're making it in an anonymous game as a generic defense. No one can go "no that's not true" because yes, some scum are aggro. Plenty more aren't. No one has meta, no one can "disprove" your statement...

but your statement also has no value. Just as many town are aggro too.

And now you're speaking from a perspective of "knowing" I'm scum.

This is not real outrage. Nothing you have said as of so far reads as real. It reads as trying to take advantage of and deflect a situation by creating a fight.

If someone can manage to read this and vote me after.
Then I am not entirely sure what to say?

I am not saying your scum for being aggro, I think town love to be aggro as well.
I think your sticking your head way too far out, in a way that makes this unnatural aggression for page 4. I am predicting a future line of play that you will do to brace for my flip. Half my read literally depends on shit that hasn't happened I am not fully convinced your scum but I think I know what's going to happen.

I don't know how you can read into the consistency of my emotion on approximately page 4.
That isn't enough time to get a sample size?

You are right I am not mad I am just kind of annoyed but I guess if you are scum I shouldn't be.
I think that much like most of what you are saying it's based on large assumptions. And I think you are aware you are doing that in order to push me which really bothers me.