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In post 71, Jim Hawkins wrote:"I have reasons to believe" implies you have inside info, which scum can re-word into making *us* look like the scum trio. I can't see that working until at least one of us is killed and flips. We just have to do it through positive reads of each other.

I was thinking that that if it gets scum read that wouldn't happen till day 2 and If i make it to day 2 without getting night killed i'd happily be the kill to conf town yall,, but I'll leave that alone

In post 71, Jim Hawkins wrote: I can read you as town pretty easy Zuko. But nopoint is a little harder to justify right now because there isn't a whole lot of content to go off of, which leaves me at a null read for now.
I really don't think there would be any other PRs than 3 scum and 3 masons. An extra mason pair would make it too pro-town, unless there was a 4th scum. But that would seem unbalanced, too.

okay I figure it would better to leave no stone unturned

In post 75, nopointinactingup wrote:Also if we lynch cook and he flips scum, one of me/Jim is likely going to be killed so we have to do breadcrumbing before that happens.

do you think one of you will be the nk?

In post 923, Andresvmb wrote:Cook clears nopoint, Jim if they flip Scum. Those slots are harder to read. I think I’m fine with this as a vote today.

ahh I see

Yes, I've already made my br with Jim, now we need to establish some kind of connection

breadcrumb*

Fun fact, I've had a chance to post in QTs for 3 games in a row (You can also use this fact to tie yourself to me)

Well if none of us die in the night should we do a friendly fruit vendor bit?

Or whatever the name of that role is

I don't know what that means...?

I keep going back and forth about when and how to announce and/or validate our masonness.... It really would take one of us sacrificing ourselves to prove our alliance on the flip. Then scum would nk one of the remaining pair. Then the third person would be left adrift for a single day until scum nk'd them d2.

oh. Nevermind on speculation, I just saw the hammer.

A fruit vendors night action is to send someone fruit. But the friendly fruit vendor (can’t remember if that’s the actual name of the role) can only send fruit to someone of their own alignment

Honestly it’s probably just be better doing what I originally said than the fruit vendor gambit, if we were to do something like that

Here we are, moment of truth

Holy moley!! Yes!! Cook is scum!!
Now. What do we think about his relationship with DkKoba?
Most people thought either cook or myself were scum. Hopefully this paints me in a better light, if I love to see Day 2

Cool stuff, I’d probably be targetted for being vocal about lynching cook though, sad.

I’ll send you guys my solve for tonight. This flip is pretty revealing for a lot of people

Here is my read-list, ordered from towniest to scummiest. I realized that it doesn't matter if Mafia kills me if I can get my thoughts out through you guys. Feel free to use them and pls cite them for town-cred if I die tonight.


Bugspray:
- Cook's tmi and slip about Bug being town at Post#88

Esoa/Tris:
- From Cook's Post#199, it looks like Esoa vs dk is really TvT (since he's asking Andres how does Andres know it's TvT). Also the way Cook was encouraging that fight really looked like he was trying to get towns to bash each other's heads in.
- From Cook's Unvote in Post#303, it sounds like Cook was reverting his scum-read to "not rock the boat" and try to sound friendly.
- I liked the progression of how Tris was questioning Cook on Post#357, 539. A scum partner would not reiterate contrived questioning. Also, I don't believe Cook was talking to his scum partner all day here.
- Post#1025 looks like she's trying to draw the NK away from me by suggesting I could be bussing. If she expresses that sentiment tomorrow, she's likely town.

Andres:
- Cook participated in flashwagoning of him in Post#696. Also Andres was the counter wagon to Cook at that moment.
- His vote on Post#921 was decisive to getting cook lynched.

Lotus:
- Post#381, Post#528 defense of Jim is quite good, considering Cook is on Jim's wagon.
- Also really liked his analysis from an uninformed perspective. His place on the Cook wagon is well-developed and justified.

Flea:
- Cook's Post#530 generating conspiracy theory likely on a town slot.
- Stream of thought is somewhat towny. But should check on whether this person has done something like that before as scum.

Facebones:
- Cook's Post#651 shading Facebones


Egix:
- Haven't done much.
- a little bit scummy for being on vanity wagon.

Geraint:
- Haven't done much at all. I have him down here because of Andres.

dkkoba:
- Cook unvote of dkkoba on Post#59 after a slight shade, it's rather textbook distancing behavior.
- Post#382, derailing Cook's wagon to start a flash wagon on an inactive slot. My interpretation is dk tried to take advantage of Lotus replacing in and trying to sort out his read.
- Post#388 spinning up a conspiracy theory of Jim when Cook is being wagoned. This could be what I was talking about when I said there is consider resistance to Cook's wagon despite his scumminess.
- Contrived "I liked his reply" when Cook's reply to dk's question was a hanging "one second" on Post#352.
- Consistent defense of Cook as limbait in Post#835, Post#842, Post#876, then chainsawing me like maddog when the Cook wagon was stale at that particular moment. This shows hyper-awareness of the possibility of a buddy getting the ropes.
- Complete ficticious reasoning to get Andres to vote me as I outlined Post#918.
- There is possible reason for dk-town though. From Cook's Post#199, it looks like Esoa vs dk is really TvT (since he's asking Andres how does Andres know it's TvT).

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So my solve is Cook + dk + (Geraint/Egix). I'm pretty confident this is right.

Like I can certainly see a scenario in which dk is town and is just really bad, but unfortunately for him there's a lot of townish people in this game.

On another note, Cook flipped roleblocker, so there's definitely some other targeting town PR out there who can benefit from this.

Oh on that off chance that none of us die, I definitely want to try that fruit vendor strat

I’ve kinda been scum reading dk since they made the town block of theirs so I think they’d be who I voted for right out of the gate. & I put flea in there cos the way that Dk fit flea into the town block felt sus

In post 94, nopointinactingup wrote:Oh on that off chance that none of us die, I definitely want to try that fruit vendor strat

<3

I’ll probably have more to say tomorrow but I should get to bed, I have work in the morning.

Unfortunately, I think I'm still a big enough wild card that the scum would keep me until Day 2. It would be in their best interest to nk a lurker.
Also unfortunately, that put's nopoint and myself in drawing. The other low-posters (ignoring replacements) are: facebones, RLotus, and Flea. None of which I think scum would nk.
It might be nopoint. I'm sorry. Are there ways we can think of reverse crumbing our relationship?

Sorry y’all I got off last night and was just tired af. So I didn’t have anything go add. I’ve already expressed I’d want to vote dk, other than that idk who scum would be

The fruit vendor thing will work if one of us dies cos usually you can only send off one fruit at a time. Idk what it would be called If you can do multiple in one night

So do you wanna be the FFV or what?